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NFT: UCONN women's basketball continues to be unbeatable

gtt350 : 2/22/2017 11:51 am
we have had this discussion before but it keeps me wondering.
Can a good High School boys team defeat the Uconn women?
On one hand is athleticism on the other maturity, teamwork and coaching.
I keep thinking the boys would win. would like to hear the discussion
Easily.  
Stan in LA : 2/22/2017 11:53 am : link
Next question.
really? i'm not so sure  
gtt350 : 2/22/2017 11:54 am : link
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a top HS boys team would win  
UConn4523 : 2/22/2017 11:56 am : link
athletically it would be a severe mismatch. Shots will be contested in a way they just don't see in women's basketball.
good point  
gtt350 : 2/22/2017 11:58 am : link
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Which Uconn women's basketball player  
est1986 : 2/22/2017 11:58 am : link
Is going to stop Zion Williamson.. those who haven't heard of him, look him up.
what is amazing is that the Uconn team is so far  
gtt350 : 2/22/2017 12:01 pm : link
better than any other women's team. It just seems they would bring something to the table against HS boys
They use a smaller ball  
pjcas18 : 2/22/2017 12:02 pm : link
in women's basketball too, so if they were forced to use the men's ball some of their fundamentals would be off.

I think that's true at least.
Yes, easily  
Greg from LI : 2/22/2017 12:02 pm : link
A good HS boys team is going to have players whose size, strength, and speed are far beyond anything UConn faces in their schedule. A really good HS boys team would blow out the WNBA all-star team, let alone UConn.
would the WNBA champ  
giants#1 : 2/22/2017 12:04 pm : link
beat the NCAA champ?

They should set up a game for charity. I'd actually tune in.
a team like Oak Hill  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/22/2017 12:08 pm : link
would demolish UConn women's even with a 28.5 ball.

They are bigger, faster, and stronger, at every position.
A top boys team would easily defeat them  
dep026 : 2/22/2017 12:09 pm : link
for instance, Westtown high school in PA has this years number 3, 40 recruit. The 2018 number 2 recruit. A top 10 sophomore and another senior who is going small division 1.

They would wipe the floor with them.
Define "good HS boys team"  
HomerJones45 : 2/22/2017 12:19 pm : link
if you are talking about a team with a couple of top college recruits, probably. If you are talking about a HS team without top college recruits, probably not.

I don't think you guys have any idea of the size and athletic ability of some of these women. When you add the scheme to it, the HS would need to be top drawer to beat them.
The Womens top college teams  
Johnny5 : 2/22/2017 12:23 pm : link
Routinely practice against teams made up of college guys who are former HS and college players. It wouldn't be the blowout people think.
I coached a team  
dep026 : 2/22/2017 12:25 pm : link
that was very small in stature, but had three Division II players and a Division 1 football player to go along with a division III football player.

We were: 6'5, 6'2, 6'2, 6'3, and 6'0. I bet we could have given some of the best college girls team a run for their money.
RE: The Womens top college teams  
HomerJones45 : 2/22/2017 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13367895 Johnny5 said:
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Routinely practice against teams made up of college guys who are former HS and college players. It wouldn't be the blowout people think.
Exactly. What dep described as his team is the type of team most women's teams practice against.
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dep026 : 2/22/2017 12:28 pm : link
In comment 13367901 HomerJones45 said:
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Routinely practice against teams made up of college guys who are former HS and college players. It wouldn't be the blowout people think.

Exactly. What dep described as his team is the type of team most women's teams practice against.


ehhh.... those practice players may be high school players.... but my players were very talented. Playing Division II basketball at a high level is better than being a practice player for a girls team.
A HS all star team would win  
BillT : 2/22/2017 12:28 pm : link
Maybe even a regional all star team. If you're talking about just a good HS team (not nationally raked) I think UCONN would win. On the other hand a HS all star team would probably beat most WNBA teams.
it's a good discussion, saying a HS boys team could wipe out the WNBA  
gtt350 : 2/22/2017 12:29 pm : link
champ, i don't know. as said above it depends how u define the HS team.
I'm saying a good HS team maybe with no division 1 players. just good boys players
it's true these girls all practise against former men's players  
gtt350 : 2/22/2017 12:30 pm : link
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Ultimately, UConn's posts are 6'5" and 6'6"  
Greg from LI : 2/22/2017 12:33 pm : link
And many of their guards are under 6'. There are a ton of boys teams that would simply be much bigger and stronger.

And yeah, an NBA factory like Oak Hill or Brewster Academy would flat out embarrass them.
RE: it's true these girls all practise against former men's players  
BillT : 2/22/2017 12:38 pm : link
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Sure. But how well do they do. There isn't a woman anywhere that can stay with a D1 men's player. D3, maybe.
Would a men's high school swim team  
LCtheINTMachine : 2/22/2017 12:40 pm : link
beat a college women's swim team.

Would a men's high school track team
beat a college women's track team.

Would a men's high school tennis team
beat a college women's tennis team.

You could play this game across the board and women would never win in any sport.
Homer  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/22/2017 12:40 pm : link
what you ignore is that what the women practice against are not teams. They are a collection of former players who are used as practice partners. They may play hard, but their goals are to make the women's team better.

These high school teams also have chemistry and are used to playing together.

I just don't see how UConn would stop players in the paint who are 6'8 and taller, let alone guards and wings who can shoot over them.

That said, against a good high school team that lacks D1 talent whose biggest player is 6'5? I think the UCOnn women's could give them a game and maybe beat them.


RE: Would a men's high school swim team  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/22/2017 12:41 pm : link
In comment 13367919 LCtheINTMachine said:
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beat a college women's swim team.

Would a men's high school track team
beat a college women's track team.

Would a men's high school tennis team
beat a college women's tennis team.

You could play this game across the board and women would never win in any sport.


These are irrelevant comparisons because those are all individual performances and for the most part do not rely on any teamwork, chemistry, or scheme.
A high school comprised of division 3  
Old Dirty Beckham : 2/22/2017 12:44 pm : link
basketball players would beat the uconn womens team.
Last year, the Aussie women's national soccer team  
Greg from LI : 2/22/2017 12:49 pm : link
which apparently is a top-5 squad in international women's soccer, was shut out 7-0 nothing by a U-15 boys club team
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Johnny5 : 2/22/2017 12:53 pm : link
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Routinely practice against teams made up of college guys who are former HS and college players. It wouldn't be the blowout people think.

Exactly. What dep described as his team is the type of team most women's teams practice against.



ehhh.... those practice players may be high school players.... but my players were very talented. Playing Division II basketball at a high level is better than being a practice player for a girls team.

Actually I saw a news vid on the guys that UConn plays against. They were not scrubs, not even close, and they were on record as saying it was not an easy task. I am not saying one way or the other because I really don't know... lol... but I would bet good money that no HS team would blow them out and they probably win more than lose.
In fact  
Old Dirty Beckham : 2/22/2017 12:54 pm : link
there isnt a division 3 basketball team in the country that wouldnt beat uconn women by double digits.
A top ranked HS team  
dep026 : 2/22/2017 12:54 pm : link
would blow out UConn girls. The line would be 30-40 points.
RE: A top ranked HS team  
Johnny5 : 2/22/2017 12:57 pm : link
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would blow out UConn girls. The line would be 30-40 points.

Maybe, but I personally think not. It'd be a fun game to watch though.
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dep026 : 2/22/2017 1:01 pm : link
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would blow out UConn girls. The line would be 30-40 points.


Maybe, but I personally think not. It'd be a fun game to watch though.


Read my previous post near the top. theres a PA school with the 3rd, 40th ranked players in this year class. Next year has the 2nd ranked player. A top 10 sophomore, and 2 other players going division 1.

Their smallest player is 6'4 out of their top 6. They would beat some small D-I boys teams, yet alone a girls team.
God  
shelovesnycsports : 2/22/2017 1:16 pm : link
This thread is funny. WNBA vs High School? Really?
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Johnny5 : 2/22/2017 1:25 pm : link
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would blow out UConn girls. The line would be 30-40 points.


Maybe, but I personally think not. It'd be a fun game to watch though.



Read my previous post near the top. theres a PA school with the 3rd, 40th ranked players in this year class. Next year has the 2nd ranked player. A top 10 sophomore, and 2 other players going division 1.

Their smallest player is 6'4 out of their top 6. They would beat some small D-I boys teams, yet alone a girls team.

You may be right with UConn, but not WNBA. Liberty practices against elite and paid practice squads, containing many guys looking to make pro (and some who have made it pro especially overseas). I understand what you are saying but I personally feel you are not giving the girls enough cred... lol. Again, just my opinion though. And to be fair, I was a wrestler and (still am) a powerlifter, and although I can move around on a basketball court OK I can't dribble or shoot to save my life.... so take my opinion at that face value... lol. I do watch a lot of Women's basketball though because my girls played when they were younger and we followed Newtown HS through their State title. I enjoy watching the Women more than the men, such a different game. More team oriented in my view.
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Greg from LI : 2/22/2017 1:26 pm : link
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I would bet good money that no HS team would blow them out and they probably win more than lose.


NO HS team would blow them out? Let's get more concrete here and look only at Connecticut. Looking at 24/7's state recruiting rankings, Putnam Science Academy has a top ten player in Kentucky commit Hamidou Diallo. He's a 6'5" wing. They also have a Xavier commit, 6'10 285 Kentrevious Jones and a Seton Hall commit, 6'9" 250 Darnell Brodie, and a kid being recruited by Iowa State, 6'8" 215 Alexis Yetna. You tell me how a UConn women's team with two players over 6'3" even slows that team down.

Top women's players are marvelously skilled, but their inherent physical limitations when compared to top boys HS players are massive.
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dep026 : 2/22/2017 1:28 pm : link
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I would bet good money that no HS team would blow them out and they probably win more than lose.



NO HS team would blow them out? Let's get more concrete here and look only at Connecticut. Looking at 24/7's state recruiting rankings, Putnam Science Academy has a top ten player in Kentucky commit Hamidou Diallo. He's a 6'5" wing. They also have a Xavier commit, 6'10 285 Kentrevious Jones and a Seton Hall commit, 6'9" 250 Darnell Brodie, and a kid being recruited by Iowa State, 6'8" 215 Alexis Yetna. You tell me how a UConn women's team with two players over 6'3" even slows that team down.

Top women's players are marvelously skilled, but their inherent physical limitations when compared to top boys HS players are massive.


I used the same example... the top team from PA has guys going too...

- Arizona
- Kentucky
- Possbily Duke
- Possibly UNC
- Rutgers
- Stony Brook.
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Johnny5 : 2/22/2017 1:31 pm : link
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I used the same example... the top team from PA has guys going too...

- Arizona
- Kentucky
- Possbily Duke
- Possibly UNC
- Rutgers
- Stony Brook.

Holy crap... is that a public school? They must have some serious recruiting going on.
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dep026 : 2/22/2017 1:33 pm : link
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I used the same example... the top team from PA has guys going too...

- Arizona
- Kentucky
- Possbily Duke
- Possibly UNC
- Rutgers
- Stony Brook.


Holy crap... is that a public school? They must have some serious recruiting going on.


no, its not. Its an academy that gets some of the best players all along the east coast.

Theres a charter school in philly thats ranked 7th in the nation though. And a catholic school in Philly that has guys going to Kentucky and Nova next year.
A really good  
Metnut : 2/22/2017 1:41 pm : link
high school team would be somewhere along the lines of a 15-20 pt favorite IMO. It's not impossible that UCONN NCAAW team could win, but unlikely.

While these kinds of discussions are fun, it's frustrating when people use it as a guise to diminish the accomplishment of the UConn women's team. It's incredibly impressive and maybe something that we won't see again.
A good HS team would win by double digits.  
GiantsUA : 2/22/2017 3:07 pm : link
NYS AA better teams would destroy them, A, B, C top tier teams would beat them as well.

Big difference between the boys and the girls on the hardwood.

Pace, agility, strength -

I linked NY sports writers rankings - AA, A, B, C and D.

120 teams - most on this list would win, certainly AA, A and B IMO.


NYS top 25 - ( New Window )
let's not forget Cherl Miller used to school Reggie in the driveway  
gtt350 : 2/22/2017 3:11 pm : link
when he was in HS
One thing I've always wondered  
BlackLight : 2/22/2017 5:16 pm : link
is why do three point shots in Womens' BBall look like they're pushing the ball toward the rim? Is it lack of wrist strength? I don't think it can be about height - shorter male players don't have three point shots that look like that.
RE: One thing I've always wondered  
Johnny5 : 2/22/2017 5:30 pm : link
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is why do three point shots in Womens' BBall look like they're pushing the ball toward the rim? Is it lack of wrist strength? I don't think it can be about height - shorter male players don't have three point shots that look like that.

Probably the ball... women's basketball uses a smaller ball (about an inch smaller)
back in the day that was a two handed set shot  
gtt350 : 2/22/2017 5:30 pm : link
Jack Twyman was a master at it and I think Dolph Shayes also. Ha u guys are going to have to google those guys
Dolph Shayes played for the Syracuse Nat's  
GiantsUA : 2/22/2017 6:19 pm : link
who moved and became the 76'ers.
Eh - I don't think that's entirely fair.  
lawguy9801 : 2/22/2017 6:29 pm : link
Don't take away from what UConn is accomplishing. I think everyone knows that any decent boys' or men's team would defeat them, and that NCAA women's basketball doesn't have the same depth or quality of competition as NCAA men's basketball. But in their sport, they are the most dominating team ever.
Anyone who thinks UConn women would beat ...  
Crispino : 2/22/2017 10:20 pm : link
a good boys HS team either doesn't watch UConn women's basketball or doesn't watch any boys HS basketball. A good boys team wipes the floor with UConn. It's not even close when it comes to athleticism.
RE: A good HS team would win by double digits.  
Del Shofner : 2/22/2017 10:34 pm : link
In comment 13368131 GiantsUA said:
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I linked NY sports writers rankings - AA, A, B, C and D.

120 teams - most on this list would win, certainly AA, A and B IMO.
NYS top 25 - ( New Window )


Interesting list, thanks for posting it. Certainly AA. Can't really speak to A, but you're probably right. Not so sure about B - don't think it's "certain" that the Rhinebeck HS boys team would beat the UConn women's team.
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