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Jon in NYC : 2/23/2017 6:53 am
According to Berman, the Knicks are asking for Rubio and Bjelica for Rose.

Get it done Phil!
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I'd flip Jennings  
giantsfan44ab : 2/23/2017 9:42 am : link
for Trey Burke. Looked like a useful rotation player last year but hasn't worked out much in washington.
I hope we don't trade KOQ for 2 2nds.  
Keith : 2/23/2017 9:45 am : link
Here's my realistic hope for today:

Rose for Rubio and a player/pick
Jennings for (2) 2nds
Kuz in a 3 way to Phoenix that brings back a 1st
Trying  
DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 9:47 am : link
to understand why people on the previous thread advocated a deal involving Kuz and Tucker? Why would we want Tucker?
Tucker  
brunswick : 2/23/2017 9:52 am : link
Is a player that contending teams love to
add because of his versatility and defense. He's a good addition for playoff teams...exact reason why Knicks won't be in play for him

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DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 9:53 am : link
In comment 13368893 brunswick said:
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Is a player that contending teams love to
add because of his versatility and defense. He's a good addition for playoff teams...exact reason why Knicks won't be in play for him


Sure but why would any Knick fan advocate such a thing? He's a UFA and turning 32.
What  
Jon in NYC : 2/23/2017 9:53 am : link
picks do the Wolves have still?
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DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 9:56 am : link
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picks do the Wolves have still?


They have the Pelicans 2nd (but not their own) , no first next year
So  
DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 9:56 am : link
the earliest 1st the Knicks could get from Minnesota would be 2020.
Great link for a breakdown of future picks...  
Keith : 2/23/2017 9:56 am : link
Looks like Minny can't trade a 1st until 2020 because they owe Atlanta a pick in 2018 and they only have 1 2nd. I'd have to think the sweeten would be a player.
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Anakim : 2/23/2017 9:57 am : link
In comment 13368862 kelsto811 said:
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Marc Stein‏ @ESPNSteinLine

The Knicks, sources say, are pushing for an additional piece from Minnesota in the Rubio/DRose talks and that's been the holdup this week.



Shabazz? Tyus?
RE: Trying  
giantsfan44ab : 2/23/2017 9:59 am : link
In comment 13368880 DanMetroMan said:
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to understand why people on the previous thread advocated a deal involving Kuz and Tucker? Why would we want Tucker?


Was someone advocating for him? I just automatically assumed when it was revealed the Suns had interest in Kuz that phil would go all out for tucker.
I'm surprised there is no interest  
Keith : 2/23/2017 10:01 am : link
in Holiday.
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Jon in NYC : 2/23/2017 10:01 am : link
In comment 13368908 Anakim said:
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Marc Stein‏ @ESPNSteinLine

The Knicks, sources say, are pushing for an additional piece from Minnesota in the Rubio/DRose talks and that's been the holdup this week.





Shabazz? Tyus?


It'll be Bjielca or whatever
This 3-way works....  
Keith : 2/23/2017 10:02 am : link
Kuz to Phoenix
Vujacic to Toronto

Tucker to Toronto

Sullinger and Toronto 1st to Knicks

RE: I'm surprised there is no interest  
giantsfan44ab : 2/23/2017 10:02 am : link
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in Holiday.


Is there a burning need for someone who fires up contested 3s as soon as he touches the ball in the half court?
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Anakim : 2/23/2017 10:02 am : link
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in Holiday.


Same. He's an excellent knockdown shooter and defender who is on an expiring deal
Jeff Zilgit  
DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 10:03 am : link
is confirming the Knicks have discussed Bjelica as part of the Rose deal. No surprise since I noted yesterday the Knicks have long been tied to him

"2 years ago via EuroHoops.net
Nemanja Bjelica is ready to make the jump to the NBA, Minessota has his rights, but the New York Knicks are pursuing him and hope to get him via a sign and trade deal. According to Eurohoops sources, the Euroleague MVP has already decided to continue his career in the NBA. He has to sign his new contract until the 10th of July, the date his opt out clause in the contract with Fenerbahce/ Ulker expires. Bjelica has been in contact for a long time with the Timberwolves, however now the Knicks entered the picture."
Knicks are going to have the whitest  
Keith : 2/23/2017 10:03 am : link
team in history.
It  
DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 10:06 am : link
hasn't translated but 9/2015

Darren Wolfson ✔ @DWolfsonKSTP
Text from NBA scout at Serbia-Spain: "(Bjelica) flat-out stud. Better than Mirotic. Knows how to play. Has a feel one can't teach." #twolves
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Anakim : 2/23/2017 10:07 am : link
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The #Knicks are shopping Kyle O'Quinn but it's unclear if they can get equal value back, league sources confirm.
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NYK, like every other team, seeking a 1st-round pick; talked to one team about O'Quinn/Jennings package
If the Knicks  
PaulN : 2/23/2017 10:08 am : link
Are not able to deal both Rose and Anthony you better just pray Jackson is fired because this guy is ruining the Knicks more then anyone has, and I think it is without him giving a fuck at all, he will always blame Dolan, and with all his rings who will argue it, besides, Dolan is hated also, as he should be, Jackson has been a total disgrace and I have lost all respect for this fuck. he cashed in his chips and is laughing all the way to the fucking bank. I am sorry for anyone who is a Knick fan, there is one resolution, everyone must stop following them and force Dolan out, it is the only way to get the Knicks back in our lifetime, they are lost because of this fool, Dolan.
LOL  
Keith : 2/23/2017 10:10 am : link
This is the brightest the future has looked in a while(not saying much) and we seem to have some desirable trade pieces.
I really  
Jon in NYC : 2/23/2017 10:11 am : link
hope we don't just give away KOQ for a late first. I really think he can play. It would have to be a pretty decent pick imo.
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DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 10:16 am : link
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The T-Wolves have continued to shop Ricky Rubio to non-Knicks teams too, even as they've continued to talk with NY about a Derrick Rose deal
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Anakim : 2/23/2017 10:17 am : link
In comment 13368941 DanMetroMan said:
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The T-Wolves have continued to shop Ricky Rubio to non-Knicks teams too, even as they've continued to talk with NY about a Derrick Rose deal


Oh go fuck yourself, Diane
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DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 10:17 am : link
Darren WolfsonVerified account‏@DWolfsonKSTP 11s12 seconds ago
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Ex-#Twolves exec., curious on Rubio, via text: "If they move him, hope he ends up in a good spot. Good guy, good player, and wants to win."
Since when did Scott Layden become a competent GM?  
Anakim : 2/23/2017 10:17 am : link
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RE: I really  
giantsfan44ab : 2/23/2017 10:18 am : link
In comment 13368937 Jon in NYC said:
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hope we don't just give away KOQ for a late first. I really think he can play. It would have to be a pretty decent pick imo.


If Horny played him the 28 mpg he deserved I don't think this would be a problem. Instead I can see a bunch of teams being like "if he's so good why is he getting 10-15 minutes a game off the bench on a team that struggles on D" and I can't think of a logical reason why.
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DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 10:18 am : link
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All these teams looking to trade for a first-round pick, but 7 of the final 9 picks (22 thru 30) in the first round have already been traded
I'm starting to feel  
bigbluehoya : 2/23/2017 10:19 am : link
Like the Rose-Rubio thing ends up as a 1 for 1 swap once all of the "you need to add", "no, YOU need to add" settles.
Good wooo  
DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 10:20 am : link
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1/ The Wolves are operating w/priority of pushing for playoffs. So that is coloring any trade talks they have.
PaulN  
g56blue10 : 2/23/2017 10:20 am : link
Wth are you talking about? Jackson has ruined this team spares then anyone else? Have you seen what the past GMs have done here. This is the first time in as long as I can remember that we have had a young potential franchise player, another really good player in Willy with the potential to be above avg. we are looking at a potential high lottery pick in a stacked draft and we are in decent cap shape. We are in better shape then we have been in quite some time. This is exactly why no one ever attempts to come to NU and rebuild and we remain mediocre. They know the fans with kill them and they will never get to see the process through.

Now I don't care for jackals approac with tweets, medi, etc but from a player stand point and potential for growth as a team. We are in pretty decen shape
Jennings  
DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 10:21 am : link
and Lee are both at morning shoot around
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bigbluehoya : 2/23/2017 10:22 am : link
In comment 13368947 giantsfan44ab said:
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hope we don't just give away KOQ for a late first. I really think he can play. It would have to be a pretty decent pick imo.



If Horny played him the 28 mpg he deserved I don't think this would be a problem. Instead I can see a bunch of teams being like "if he's so good why is he getting 10-15 minutes a game off the bench on a team that struggles on D" and I can't think of a logical reason why.


Simple -- Then hang up the phone. He has value to the Knicks. Would love to get another first, but no pouting from me if 3pm comes and goes and KOQ is still here.
Isola  
DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 10:23 am : link
The Knicks are also reportedly talking to the Houston Rockets about point guard Patrick Beverley.
KOQ is a solid player  
Keith : 2/23/2017 10:23 am : link
but he has some lazy moments and some moments where he makes the wrong play. Steal of a contract though, not someone I'd just give away.
RE: Good wooo  
giantsfan44ab : 2/23/2017 10:23 am : link
In comment 13368955 DanMetroMan said:
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1/ The Wolves are operating w/priority of pushing for playoffs. So that is coloring any trade talks they have.


What? They are closer to the Lakers than they are to the 8 seed. It would be semi bold for even the Pelicans to expect a playoff seed, Minnesota has no business thinking playoffs. Get another top pick and then decide your playoff hopes.
Knicks have trieds to get Beverly before.  
Keith : 2/23/2017 10:24 am : link
I wonder if that's some sort of 3-way?
I still can't believe an NBA team actually hired Scott Layden  
Greg from LI : 2/23/2017 10:27 am : link
I mean, how high must the threshold of incompetence be if that clown actually got another chance to run an NBA team?
Wolves still shopping Rubio/Shabazz in a package  
Keith : 2/23/2017 10:32 am : link
If they don't get anything there, I think they will trade Rubio/Bjelica for Rose.
Why would the Knicks  
Giantfootball025 : 2/23/2017 10:39 am : link
want Bjelica? I'm not familiar with his game plus he's 28 already, how much better will he get?
Rose  
DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 10:39 am : link
is in the house
RE: Wolves still shopping Rubio/Shabazz in a package  
giantsfan44ab : 2/23/2017 10:40 am : link
In comment 13368988 Keith said:
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If they don't get anything there, I think they will trade Rubio/Bjelica for Rose.


Who are they hoping to get? It seems like Rubio is merely a contract dump for them.
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Keith : 2/23/2017 10:42 am : link
In comment 13369011 giantsfan44ab said:
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If they don't get anything there, I think they will trade Rubio/Bjelica for Rose.



Who are they hoping to get? It seems like Rubio is merely a contract dump for them.


Yeah, plus they've been shopping that package for a week and there hasn't been any rumored interest. That tells me that they will prob come back to the Knicks.
Tommy Dee is such a little shit  
Anakim : 2/23/2017 10:44 am : link
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RE: Tommy Dee is such a little shit  
Giantfootball025 : 2/23/2017 10:45 am : link
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I unfollowed that asshole a while ago. Reading his tweets only pissed me off. The guy is a clown.
Hold  
DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 10:50 am : link
out for Jones Phil!
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giantsfan44ab : 2/23/2017 10:57 am : link
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Still waiting for the BKN pick he said KOQ was going to get us. And the finals appearannce KOQ would lead Boston to
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DanMetroMan : 2/23/2017 10:59 am : link
In comment 13369004 Giantfootball025 said:
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want Bjelica? I'm not familiar with his game plus he's 28 already, how much better will he get?


At a certain point they likely would just take whatever sweetener they realistically can get. Pretty clearly they aren't expected to get a first in the deal, I'd probably take the 2nd over Bjelica but if the scouts liked him that much in 2015 it makes some sense.
I don't want to give KOQ for peanuts  
giantsfan44ab : 2/23/2017 11:04 am : link
either but then it's not fair to expect he'll get you anything next year when he's an expiring. Might as well pony up to pay him when he becomes a FA. He could be a contributor off the bench when this team is (hopefully) good again in 3-4 years. Don't think his game will deteriorate in his early 30s, he can barely jump now and is pretty effective.
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