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Drewcon40 : 2/23/2017 10:51 am
I did not want to start the actual deadline thread (that is for the veterans here). Anyway - a few smaller deals have occurred and I am sure there is some anxiety from all our hockey fans leading up to Wednesday

Michael Stone was traded to Calgary for picks
Ron Hainsey was traded to Pittsburgh (former Canadien/Ranger prospect Danny Kristo was involved)
https://twitter.com/penguins/status/834786465385238528 -

and in a smaller deal (swap of former Ranger defensemen's sons). Keegan Lowe was traded for Philip Samuelsson.

pjcas - a lot of Canadiens alumni/news here.
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Not trade  
KWhite2250 : 2/28/2017 9:20 am : link
But isles have called up Ho-Sang on emergency basis. Kind of funny seeing how the isles mouthpiece staple just put out a story on the isles doing nothing at deadline because the injured guys are coming back
RE: Not trade  
Metnut : 2/28/2017 9:43 am : link
In comment 13373469 KWhite2250 said:
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But isles have called up Ho-Sang on emergency basis. Kind of funny seeing how the isles mouthpiece staple just put out a story on the isles doing nothing at deadline because the injured guys are coming back


Might mean that Ladd and/or Chimera injury is worse than they thought and they aren't making the trip. Both had been playing really well lately too.

Silver lining is that I'm excited to see what JHS can do.
Islander guys...  
Drewcon40 : 2/28/2017 9:52 am : link
...could it be a roster move prior to a trade? Admittedly, I am not sure what constitutes an Emergency basis call up versus a call up. (Is it service time?)
If the injuries are worse than they state  
Dave M : 2/28/2017 10:07 am : link
Stephen Gionta would be on L3.
RE: Islander guys...  
pjcas18 : 2/28/2017 10:10 am : link
In comment 13373515 Drewcon40 said:
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...could it be a roster move prior to a trade? Admittedly, I am not sure what constitutes an Emergency basis call up versus a call up. (Is it service time?)

Not player service time I don't believe. A game played is a game played.

I think it has to do with waivers and call-ups, something to do with how long the player can remain on the team without having to pass through waivers to get sent back down, depending on their status.
Ho-sang  
KWhite2250 : 2/28/2017 10:20 am : link
Will probably practice and then be sent down before the game if Ladd plays. Ladd said he would play thurs
....  
BrettNYG10 : 2/28/2017 10:34 am : link
Random thought: Fuck the Islanders for not trading for Kessel in 2015.
RE: Ho-sang  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/28/2017 10:49 am : link
In comment 13373557 KWhite2250 said:
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Will probably practice and then be sent down before the game if Ladd plays. Ladd said he would play thurs


I had an exchange with Staple and he seems to think Quine is the issue.
[non NYI/NYR news] McKenzie tweets about Valtteri Filppula  
Drewcon40 : 2/28/2017 10:51 am : link
https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/836602690293608448
Who cares about Kessel  
Carl in CT : 2/28/2017 11:10 am : link
Fuck the Islanders period! And all their so called fans. (I.E. Fish) oh I bet it stings a little. He was never NYR property so it doesn't. But it will be a lot of fun around here when Johnny T decides to break away from that loser organization that doesn't even have a place to play. We will all laugh last and the loudest! I said my peace.
Oh by the way  
Carl in CT : 2/28/2017 11:11 am : link
Good morning Brett.
oh boy...  
Drewcon40 : 2/28/2017 11:15 am : link
Non trade news NYR...  
Drewcon40 : 2/28/2017 11:19 am : link
...Girardi out for tonight - perhaps longer. Klein practicing.......


I am still happy Gorton held out on Shattenkirk even though our D depth is thin.
Good morning Carl!  
BrettNYG10 : 2/28/2017 11:21 am : link
Twitter rumor that asking price for Shattenkirk was Buchnevich.
Girardi out 10 days - 2 weeks  
Drewcon40 : 2/28/2017 11:21 am : link
https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/836610693780615168

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OFFICIAL: #NYR Dan Girardi is expected to be sidelined 10 days to 2 weeks (ankle).
Brett  
Carl in CT : 2/28/2017 11:24 am : link
On rangerfan central they asked for Miller, Buch or Hayes or high picks. We decided to pass.
RE: Brett  
Drewcon40 : 2/28/2017 11:28 am : link
In comment 13373669 Carl in CT said:
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On rangerfan central they asked for Miller, Buch or Hayes or high picks. We decided to pass.


^^^ pjcas - see what I am saying about teams asking more from the Range? I understand these are unconfirmed but sometimes it feels the Rangers are the supermarket for rebuilding teams.
What happened to Carl  
pjcas18 : 2/28/2017 11:29 am : link
less F-bombs than usual and less violence oozing from his posts. life change? Prozac?
RE: Good morning Carl!  
Greg from LI : 2/28/2017 11:31 am : link
In comment 13373663 BrettNYG10 said:
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Twitter rumor that asking price for Shattenkirk was Buchnevich.


If that's really true, then it's a joke that they then gifted him to the Caps for pennies.
Pj  
Carl in CT : 2/28/2017 11:38 am : link
Nah it's only Tuesday. Later in the week the bombs will be flowing.
Why announce the injury today?  
Carl in CT : 2/28/2017 11:51 am : link
Any trade we try to make for a D man the asking price just went up. I would have kept it under wraps for 24 more hours.
Also remember PJ I've been under  
Carl in CT : 2/28/2017 11:54 am : link
A lot of stress with my beloved Knicks. It took a while to get over it.
Looks like per McKenzie, Rangers making a move  
pganut : 2/28/2017 12:08 pm : link
DET/NYR working to finalize trade for Brendan Smith. Not officially done yet but hearing pair of picks, incl 2nd rder, would be included.
McKenzie: NYR/DET rumor  
Drewcon40 : 2/28/2017 12:09 pm : link
https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/836623259957407746

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DET/NYR working to finalize trade for Brendan Smith. Not officially done yet but hearing pair of picks, incl 2nd rder, would be included.


Rangers do not own a 2nd rd pick this year but have 2 in 2018.
Hoping that the  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 2/28/2017 12:12 pm : link
2nd is conditional upon his resigning. Otherwise this is just a rental.
.  
arcarsenal : 2/28/2017 12:12 pm : link
Anyone have any info on Smith? Can't say I've seen or heard much of him. Seems he's had a pretty unremarkable career to date. Just a depth guy?
Wonder if they feel comfortable  
Kyle in NY : 2/28/2017 12:13 pm : link
playing Skeji on the right side. He did it in the playoffs last year and looked ok. Could be a potential partner for McDonagh
the deal alone is not exciting...  
Drewcon40 : 2/28/2017 12:13 pm : link
...if there was a follow up move to recapture a pick and/or prospect, I would be more enthusiastic.
Five  
JoeMoney19 : 2/28/2017 12:14 pm : link
lefties now.
Halak trade coming?  
KWhite2250 : 2/28/2017 12:14 pm : link
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Link - ( New Window )
I always thought Smith was solid  
Kyle in NY : 2/28/2017 12:15 pm : link
when I caught Wings games but obviously I'm not watching him every game. Analytics seem favorable on him. Seems like a great 3rd pair guy who could get by on the 2nd pair if necessary.

Something has to give on the defense though, wonder if Klein is going.
I'm seeing two 2nd rounders  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 2/28/2017 12:18 pm : link
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eh  
Kyle in NY : 2/28/2017 12:19 pm : link
they had to give up two 2nd rounders for this guy?
Is Smith  
JoeMoney19 : 2/28/2017 12:19 pm : link
physical at least? He has like no production in his entire career.
No 2 picks including a 2nd rounder...  
Drewcon40 : 2/28/2017 12:19 pm : link
...not "2" 2nds.
.  
arcarsenal : 2/28/2017 12:20 pm : link
Hope he's at least really solid in the defensive zone.. he's obviously not a point producer.
From HF thread  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 2/28/2017 12:20 pm : link
Smith's evaluation.

Smith's  
pjcas18 : 2/28/2017 12:21 pm : link
favorite music band is Nickelback.

Pass. Major pass. I don't care if he's Bobby Orr reincarnated (wait he's not dead), pass.
He's a shot suppressor  
bigbluehoya : 2/28/2017 12:22 pm : link
And a career positive possession player. (Possession this year is awful up and down the red wings roster).

I don't like the rumored price, but Smith is immediately a top 3D on this team and it wouldn't surprise me to see him play first pair on the right side given the dire situation on the right.
2nd and 3rd  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 2/28/2017 12:23 pm : link
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Pending a trade call (not official until then), DET will get 2nd rder and 3rd rder, both in 2017, from NYR for Brendan Smith.
seems like an overpay  
Greg from LI : 2/28/2017 12:23 pm : link
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He gives up Top 4 goals per hour?  
Drewcon40 : 2/28/2017 12:27 pm : link
What does that graphic say?
Fish  
The 12th Man : 2/28/2017 12:28 pm : link
can not open the Twitter link at work. what does it say?
If he's good in the defensive zone, it's a solid get..  
arcarsenal : 2/28/2017 12:29 pm : link
NYR are 2nd in the entire league in goals scored.. I'm not sure an offensive defenseman is a bigger need than one who plays well in our end. Seems like the price is a bit steep but I do think it fills what is perhaps the biggest need on the team right now.
Will never happen...  
JoeMoney19 : 2/28/2017 12:50 pm : link
but I'd like to see these pairs play out the rest of the season.

McD-Smith
Skjei-Clendo
Staal-Holden
RE: Fish  
JayBinQueens : 2/28/2017 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13373798 The 12th Man said:
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can not open the Twitter link at work. what does it say?



David Pagnotta‏ @TheFourthPeriod

With at least 3 teams in mix, Halak trade may not occur until tomorrow. But all signs point to him being moved.
Viktor Stalberg to the Senators for a third rounder  
Anakim : 2/28/2017 1:35 pm : link
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Even though I would love Duchene,  
marbles : 2/28/2017 1:48 pm : link
God help us with what those two Snow variations are.

Andy Graziano ‏ @AndyGraz_SNY

Just off phone, can confirm Jimmy/Adrian report - source tells me Snow offered two variations, meeting demands. Avs stalling at the moment
Brett (I think) posted this Brooksie:  
ColHowPepper : 2/28/2017 1:55 pm : link
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The Rangers have gone big at each of the past four deadlines, trading three first-rounders, four second-rounders, a world-class sniper (Marian Gaborik), a captain on an expiring contract (Ryan Callahan) and two prospects (Anthony Duclair and Aleksi Saarela) for Derick Brassard, Derek Dorsett, Ryane Clowe, Marty St. Louis, Keith Yandle and Eric Staal. (John Moore came and went in separate transactions.)

And even as Gorton seeks help both on defense and up front (Vancouvers Jannik Hansen, anyone?), a sellers market in which renting Dallas Patrick Eaves somehow cost Anaheim a second-rounder that could become a first, portends a low-drama deadline on Broadway.

A 2nd (Ottawa's?) and 3rd, yea or nay? And putting aside all talk of Girardi
should have clarified that quote from last  
ColHowPepper : 2/28/2017 1:56 pm : link
weekend's column
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