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NFT: Islanders at Canadiens, 7:30pm Game Thread

pganut : 2/23/2017 12:22 pm
Sacre bleu...as our resident nightowl MiLB pointed out, however fleeting, there's a new WC2 placeholder from Brooklyn. A positive development, but there's still a loooong way to go. Don't get comfortable. Things don't get any easier heading to the Bell Centre tonight.

Thomas Greiss gets the start. Zeeker will miss the next 4 weeks with an upper body injury (broken hand) and has been IRed; Cal hasn't been given clearance to return, and Prince hasn't gotten the green light just yet although he's expected back for Saturday's game. What does that mean? Veteran Sound Tiger Bracken Kearns has been emergency recalled - largely because of his solid 2-way game - and will be on a line with Kulie and Gionta tonight. Weight expects Kulie to be moved around a bit tonight. Regarding Kearns, the Sound Tigers leading scorer with 40 points (18G, 22A) in 51 games:
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"He's had a great year. The great thing about Bracken is that he's a pro. He's been around. He's had some stints in the NHL and played well," Interim Coach Doug Weight said. "A smart hockey player, a heady hockey player and can play with some edge."

"I know the teams playing well up here and hopefully I can come up here and fill a role," Kearns said. "I need to be responsible out there, play on an edge and pretty much anything I can do to help the team win."


Also excited to get a chance to play in front of his friends and family in Quebec tonight is your 2C tonight, Anthony Beauvillier:
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"It will be special. Every game I came to Bell Centre I told my dad I hope I'm going to play here one time. Now it's happening tonight."
A hometown hatty for the rookie tonight, then, please.

Let's Go Islanders
That's cool about Beau! (Bo)  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/23/2017 12:31 pm : link
So does that mean Quine is sliding in with Strome and Nelson? I could be wrong, but I thought he had been playing with Chimera and Ladd.
L2  
pganut : 2/23/2017 12:32 pm : link
Is Nelson-Beau-Strome tonight. The Ladd line stays intact.
Ladd  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2017 12:50 pm : link
beat Price twice last game in an awful showing for Price. At least one was pretty soft.

Hopefully Price is on or the Canadiens lose.

How it goes lately.

Losing Casey sucks next man up. all the games now are big  
The 12th Man : 2/23/2017 12:57 pm : link
and being able to tick games where we get points off this trip is even bigger.
Very thin lineup tonight  
Dave M : 2/23/2017 1:21 pm : link
Nothing Duchene couldn't fix.
3-1  
Fish : 2/23/2017 2:19 pm : link
Islanders tonight. Empty netter seals it.
RE: 3-1  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/23/2017 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13369506 Fish said:
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Islanders tonight. Empty netter seals it.


I'm with you on this.
RE: L2  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/23/2017 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13369256 pganut said:
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Is Nelson-Beau-Strome tonight. The Ladd line stays intact.


Ah gotcha. I think of the Ladd line as line 2 at this point ha
I know at least more than half of you hate when I do this  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/23/2017 3:17 pm : link
But some other big ones to keep an eye on tonight. Boston is in LA. The Leafs host the Rangers (ugh.. hate rooting for them), and lurking in the shadows and considerably relevant again, the Lightning host the Flames. Lots can go wrong tonight if we don't pick up 2 points. Let's get it.
Funny about the 4th line tonight  
pganut : 2/23/2017 7:31 pm : link
Staple:
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Mentioned to Kulemin he'd be the youngest guy on his line. "Wait, how old is Gio?" I said 33. "Really? He's like a puppy dog."
let's gooo  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 7:38 pm : link
ooooo!
Beau!!!!  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 7:48 pm : link
!!! 1-0!
Beau knows!  
pganut : 2/23/2017 7:49 pm : link
Fantastique
Good effort so far  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 7:53 pm : link
keep thinking they're going to have a dumb mental lapse before the periods over and come back out for the second tied up
Isles will win  
5BowlsSoon : 2/23/2017 7:54 pm : link
Habs are a joke of a team and I don't care who coaches them. They have one line and one great goalie and a decent defense. They play to win 3-2 games which means Price has to be very solid each and every game. If Isles score 3, they win.
Isles average over  
Fish : 2/23/2017 8:05 pm : link
3 goals a game. They say you win most when score at least 3z
Greiss!!!!  
Fish : 2/23/2017 8:06 pm : link
Nice tendy!!
Some good work there  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 8:08 pm : link
with the glove.

Good kill overall
great offensive pressure  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 8:12 pm : link
there by top line.

Bailey all alone with literally no one around him - - - probably has never been so alone before
Bailey  
steviej : 2/23/2017 8:12 pm : link
Cmon man
L1 again with an awesome shift  
pganut : 2/23/2017 8:13 pm : link
JT is like the Terminator. Just keeps coming...he's relentless.
Good 1st period  
steviej : 2/23/2017 8:19 pm : link
Let's win it for BO . I gotta say this I think that girl in the Buick commercial with the flowered dress who brings back the birthday cake is so friggin HOT !!!
Fucking  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 8:44 pm : link
beautiful!
Gorgeous play by L1  
pganut : 2/23/2017 8:45 pm : link
Lee with a beauty from Bailey. Much needed after some poor d zone play.
Wow  
jrapps : 2/23/2017 8:46 pm : link
What a fabulous goal. Really really nice. Love the chemistry.
Career high for Bailey  
pganut : 2/23/2017 8:46 pm : link
In assists and points. Well done.
Imagine what their chemistry  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 8:48 pm : link
would be like if they were able to play with each other from the beginning of the season and not getting new line-mates every 7 minutes
I swear to god  
KWhite2250 : 2/23/2017 8:53 pm : link
Everytime we are pinned in our own zone its cause 4 and 44 are out there
RE: I swear to god  
pganut : 2/23/2017 8:56 pm : link
In comment 13370041 KWhite2250 said:
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Everytime we are pinned in our own zone its cause 4 and 44 are out there
Its especially bad when they're on when L2 is also on the ice. Big problems getting the puck out.
a lot of  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 8:56 pm : link
stick holding
Yeah, Habs going clutch and grab tonight  
pganut : 2/23/2017 9:02 pm : link
.
Brock can't buy one  
pganut : 2/23/2017 9:04 pm : link
I do like that he shot it, though. The only way to break through a slump. Beau looks revved up.
I actually thought both Emelin hits were okay  
pganut : 2/23/2017 9:07 pm : link
Just hard hits. I don't like that Lee drew a penalty, although I like that he didn't appreciate JT getting dumped.
RE: I actually thought both Emelin hits were okay  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 9:09 pm : link
In comment 13370054 pganut said:
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Just hard hits. I don't like that Lee drew a penalty, although I like that he didn't appreciate JT getting dumped.


Agree. I think both were clean but Lee has to stand up for hon
Ok ok  
KWhite2250 : 2/23/2017 9:09 pm : link
Lets go! 1 more period to go
no idea  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2017 9:10 pm : link
how that's an Islanders power play. Tavares initiated contact with Emelin, and Emelin gets interference. He didn't touch Lee and Emelin gets a roughing call somehow.

RE: RE: I actually thought both Emelin hits were okay  
feelflows : 2/23/2017 9:10 pm : link
In comment 13370055 JayBinQueens said:
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In comment 13370054 pganut said:


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Just hard hits. I don't like that Lee drew a penalty, although I like that he didn't appreciate JT getting dumped.



Agree. I think both were clean but Lee has to stand up for hon


EXACTLY. Doesn't matter..

and hon? is that your term of endearment for JT?? ;)
RE: Brock can't buy one  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 9:10 pm : link
In comment 13370052 pganut said:
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I do like that he shot it, though. The only way to break through a slump. Beau looks revved up.


That burst to get that puck by Beau needs to be something he can show more consistently
RE: no idea  
pganut : 2/23/2017 9:18 pm : link
In comment 13370058 pjcas18 said:
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how that's an Islanders power play. Tavares initiated contact with Emelin, and Emelin gets interference. He didn't touch Lee and Emelin gets a roughing call somehow.
I think most of us agree with you. Nothing needed to be called in that sequence.
RE: RE: RE: I actually thought both Emelin hits were okay  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 9:21 pm : link
In comment 13370060 feelflows said:
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In comment 13370054 pganut said:


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Just hard hits. I don't like that Lee drew a penalty, although I like that he didn't appreciate JT getting dumped.



Agree. I think both were clean but Lee has to stand up for hon



EXACTLY. Doesn't matter..

and hon? is that your term of endearment for JT?? ;)



Haha whoops. Not taking it back though!
RE: RE: no idea  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2017 9:22 pm : link
In comment 13370072 pganut said:
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how that's an Islanders power play. Tavares initiated contact with Emelin, and Emelin gets interference. He didn't touch Lee and Emelin gets a roughing call somehow.

I think most of us agree with you. Nothing needed to be called in that sequence.


Montreal needs all the help they can get, not Emelin reputation calls. Some people still hold onto the old truisms that calls like that always go the Canadiens way in Montreal. I think all the old advantages are gone.

Tough hole to climb out of, Islanders undefeated in regulation leading after 2.
RE: RE: RE: no idea  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 9:24 pm : link
In comment 13370078 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13370058 pjcas18 said

Tough hole to climb out of, Islanders undefeated in regulation leading after 2.


I see what you're doing. Stop it.
Oh, Joshy  
pganut : 2/23/2017 9:30 pm : link
Golden opportunity fumbled there. I hope that doesn't haunt them later. Just rolled off his backhand.
Stick was way high  
pganut : 2/23/2017 9:38 pm : link
No way that's a goal.
They need to go back  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 9:42 pm : link
on to the attack and not sit back the rest of the period
We need to make good decisions with the puck  
pganut : 2/23/2017 9:42 pm : link
No hope passes, and no blind passes in our zone. Habs will press so staying sharp is the key. May also find the chance for some breakaways as we should see some deeper pinches by the MTL d.
..  
jrapps : 2/23/2017 9:44 pm : link
Gotta love all of the "intelligent" Montreal fans booing 2 blatant non-goals.
Habs fans are smart  
pganut : 2/23/2017 9:45 pm : link
Surprised they're moaning about the 2 correct calls. I'd guess that's just really some frustration, though, over the run of poor play by the Canadiens.

That said, I really don't think it's a good idea for us to play the remaining 11 minutes in our end.
Isles  
KWhite2250 : 2/23/2017 10:03 pm : link
Only 4 pts from taking the Arlantic division lead with a game in hand.
JT finally with the hardest one for him...  
pganut : 2/23/2017 10:04 pm : link
The ENG to seal it.
REALLY solid win  
pganut : 2/23/2017 10:07 pm : link
Yes, the Habs are reeling, but the Isles played a good game tonight. Happy for Beau as well as Greiss.

2 of 9 road games down. 4 out of 4 points. Keep this train rolling, boys!
RE: JT finally with the hardest one for him...  
feelflows : 2/23/2017 10:08 pm : link
In comment 13370122 pganut said:
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The ENG to seal it.


i'm glad it was a weird angle shot.. if he came in through center with the puck and an empty net.... umm...
Hell of a start  
Dave M : 2/23/2017 10:08 pm : link
To the road trip boys.

Ugly game for Montreal.
You guys have been in arenas  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2017 10:11 pm : link
it's hard to see the replays and sometimes they don't show all the angles you see on TV. They're just frustrated, they don't think the waived off goals were wrong calls.

Islanders controlled the play all game, Canadiens had very few threats. They needed something to be vocal about.

Going to be a nervous week. Bergevin can't panic and trade Sergachev, Juulsen, Galchenyuk, McCarron, or Beaulieu.
I told you  
5BowlsSoon : 2/23/2017 10:16 pm : link
Montreal is a fake of a team. I seriously doubt they make the playoffs and they probably don't win 5 more games for the rest of the season. Everyone will be passing them soon. Carey Price may only let in 2 goals, but most nights they will only score one if they are lucky.

Now the Leafs are another matter.
pj  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 10:16 pm : link
do you know any of the Isle's prospects?

What do you think the package they'd want for Gachelnyuk look like?
I think if you struggle over the weekend  
pganut : 2/23/2017 10:18 pm : link
You will see Bergevin make a panic-type move. No shortage of love for Galchenyuk here.
...  
jrapps : 2/23/2017 10:18 pm : link
Great win. Stupid question. What if we finished with a better record than the Atlantic winner?
Well, our bourough neighbors  
pganut : 2/23/2017 10:20 pm : link
Despite allowing TOR a loser point, take the other important one.

TB lost. Now we need BOS to lose in LA.
RE: I told you  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2017 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13370138 5BowlsSoon said:
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Montreal is a fake of a team. I seriously doubt they make the playoffs and they probably don't win 5 more games for the rest of the season. Everyone will be passing them soon. Carey Price may only let in 2 goals, but most nights they will only score one if they are lucky.

Now the Leafs are another matter.


get out of here with this horeseshit. MTL is not a cup contender, but they have 5 good lines, and 3 good D.

they're a fringy playoff team like half the league.

Where were your posts when they started off 13 - 0 - 1?

They've the most impact of man games to injury than anyone, they need some time to gel now that they're healthy.

And they do need another top 6 forward or need to swap Plekanec and Danault - Danault is not a 1st line center.

But they're definitely reeling right now.

RE: ...  
pganut : 2/23/2017 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13370148 jrapps said:
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Great win. Stupid question. What if we finished with a better record than the Atlantic winner?
Nothing. Atlantic leader still wins the division. But a Metro team can bump out non division winners.
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Mike in Long Beach : 2/23/2017 10:24 pm : link
In comment 13370157 pganut said:
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Great win. Stupid question. What if we finished with a better record than the Atlantic winner?

Nothing. Atlantic leader still wins the division. But a Metro team can bump out non division winners.


We actually had a better record than Tampa who we faced in the 2nd round last year, but because we were a Wild Card and they were a Top 3 in their division team, they had home ice in that series.
..  
jrapps : 2/23/2017 10:24 pm : link
Thx
RE: pj  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2017 10:30 pm : link
In comment 13370141 JayBinQueens said:
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do you know any of the Isle's prospects?

What do you think the package they'd want for Gachelnyuk look like?


Galchenyuk was the 3rd overall pick, he was a 30 goal scorer last year as a 21 year old. He's an RFA after the season though and I can see already he's not a Julien guy. He wasn't a Therrien guy either, they kept messing around with him. center to wing, to different lines, etc.

I think they'd ask for Barzal or Ho-Sang and a pick. I don't know the Islanders are a good match. I think a desperate contender would be better, not that the Islanders aren't a contender, but I think of them more as a contender to make the playoffs, not a cup contender. I think the Penguins or Blackhawks - someone like that might be better. for a team trying to make the playoffs I see Winnipeg as a decent match - I can see a Galchenyuk for Trouba trade. Or Calgary. Hamilton for Galchenyuk.

And I hate giving up offense, but for a top pair RD I'd have to consider it.


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pjcas18 : 2/23/2017 10:32 pm : link
In comment 13370157 pganut said:
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In comment 13370148 jrapps said:


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Great win. Stupid question. What if we finished with a better record than the Atlantic winner?

Nothing. Atlantic leader still wins the division. But a Metro team can bump out non division winners.


Only for the wild cards right? top 3 in each division make it then the top two next best records are the two wild cards.
As far as the expansion draft  
KWhite2250 : 2/23/2017 10:32 pm : link
Whats the rule, are we going to have to decide between hamonic/pulock/mayfield now? Or does mayfiekd not qualify? He's playing very well. When Hamonic comes back, mayfield better stay in with seidenberg or hickey sitting
RE: As far as the expansion draft  
JayBinQueens : 2/23/2017 10:36 pm : link
In comment 13370173 KWhite2250 said:
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Whats the rule, are we going to have to decide between hamonic/pulock/mayfield now? Or does mayfiekd not qualify? He's playing very well. When Hamonic comes back, mayfield better stay in with seidenberg or hickey sitting


Mayfield brings a toughness to this team it hasn't been able to find since Martin left and Clutter stopped being physical.
He definitely needs to stay in the lineup, it's not like he's a liability either
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pganut : 2/23/2017 10:46 pm : link
In comment 13370171 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13370148 jrapps said:


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Great win. Stupid question. What if we finished with a better record than the Atlantic winner?

Nothing. Atlantic leader still wins the division. But a Metro team can bump out non division winners.



Only for the wild cards right? top 3 in each division make it then the top two next best records are the two wild cards.
Thats right. I worded my post poorly.
Wow, how's this for a number, per Staple  
Mike in Long Beach : 2/23/2017 11:02 pm : link
on January 18, Isles were 28th in the NHL.

After today's win, they're up to 12th.
I was looking further back  
theold5j : 2/23/2017 11:08 pm : link
On Dec 20 isles had 30 points, were in dead last in the conference and 12 points our of a playoff spot. They have gone something like 18-7-4 since then.
Courtesy of Eric Hornick  
pganut : 2/23/2017 11:18 pm : link
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Best Records since December 20th
1.#Capitals 21-4-4(.793)
2.#MnWild 21-6-2 (.759)
3.#Isles 18-7-4 (.690)
4.#Penguins 17-7-3(.685)
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3rd shutout of ssn for Greiss, who is 2-0-0 on trip 0.50 goals against, .980 save percentage
Do u think they're going to come home  
theold5j : 2/23/2017 11:21 pm : link
After the Columbus game. 4 days between Columbus and the next game in Dallas
RE: Do u think they're going to come home  
pganut : 2/23/2017 11:31 pm : link
In comment 13370208 theold5j said:
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After the Columbus game. 4 days between Columbus and the next game in Dallas
I believe I read that is the plan, yes.
Nice.  
theold5j : 2/23/2017 11:48 pm : link
Columbus is a short flight. Get some rest then back at it with fresh legs.
Had my council meeting last night  
The 12th Man : 2/24/2017 9:18 am : link
Got to see some of the game when I got home last night.Great job with Beau, class move by Weight and his teammates. Awesome that he scored and watching the emotion of his parents. Bailey keeps surprising, 1st line is playing great. Mayfield can not come out of this lineup. Next Wednesday is going to be very interesting. 2 games on the road down 7 to go. At least 8 more points to get on this trip.
Looks like Beau had just a few friends at the game last night  
pganut : 2/24/2017 2:54 pm : link
These were his friends/family waiting for him after the game

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