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So was the whole JPP contract signing rumor "fake news"

Essex : 2/24/2017 7:57 am
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It was social media speculation  
jlukes : 2/24/2017 7:58 am : link
there was no news
Isn't this that th definition of "fake news"  
Essex : 2/24/2017 7:59 am : link
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Alternative  
Sec 103 : 2/24/2017 8:00 am : link
facts...
Bovine  
Sec 103 : 2/24/2017 8:00 am : link
turds
I just don't get it, Giants have all leverage  
Essex : 2/24/2017 8:02 am : link
JPP wants long term deal and we can franchise him for 17 mil, obviously not ideal for us, but feasible.
RE: Isn't this that th definition of  
Jim in Tampa : 2/24/2017 8:11 am : link
In comment 13370277 Essex said:
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If you think that a writer wrote an article that he or she knew was 100% false (they made it up) to deliberately deceive the public, then yes, it's fake news.

However, it's much more likely that the initial report was speculation based on JPP's Twitter (or was it Instagram) post, where he talked about going back to NJ and added a number of $$$$ at the end. Also, another defensive player (Jack Rabbit?) posted something about how happy he was that they were keeping the Giants' D together.

So no...It's not fake news.
I wasn't looking to get into a real dispute about fake news  
Essex : 2/24/2017 8:16 am : link
I was just making a joke that it doesn't appear to be real now.
Rumors being fake?  
mattlawson : 2/24/2017 8:19 am : link
Naaaawwwww!!
Maybe, maybe not.  
robbieballs2003 : 2/24/2017 8:24 am : link
The new league year doesn't start until March something so nothing can be official until then.
Somewhat surprised how some on BBI  
ZogZerg : 2/24/2017 8:27 am : link
jump on this stuff like it's true...
well I think  
I Love Clams Casino : 2/24/2017 9:10 am : link
Jacrabbit's tweet fueled the speculation.

I'd love to know what Jenkins meant by that
RE: well I think  
I Love Clams Casino : 2/24/2017 9:10 am : link
In comment 13370323 I Love Clams Casino said:
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Jacrabbit's tweet fueled the speculation.

I'd love to know what Jenkins meant by that


Jack Rabbit
use your heads though  
area junc : 2/24/2017 9:15 am : link
JPP is a tough negotiator. this was never going to be resolved at this juncture
just like Pugh  
area junc : 2/24/2017 9:16 am : link
Everyone wants to extend Pugh - but why would he want to? his value is down coming off injury and struggling late in the year. he'd probably rather just hit the open market unless we blow him away, and why would we right now?
Kind of happens this time every year  
Beer Man : 2/24/2017 9:21 am : link
Everybody is starving for positive football news, and any type of rumor can set off a frenzy. If nothing else, this latest rumor kept BBI entertained for a couple of day.
It was twitterific  
Brown Recluse : 2/24/2017 9:24 am : link
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It's possible  
mrvax : 2/24/2017 9:39 am : link
the contract could be agreed to or even signed. Then Reese asked JPP not to announce yet to give Reese some unknown advantage (to me.) Maybe JR wants other teams to waste time figuring what they could possibly offer JPP or even the Giants if he were tagged.

I'm almost 100% sure something good (if you like JPP) has already happened.
It's not fake until CNN reports it or the president tweets that it is  
Patrick77 : 2/24/2017 9:55 am : link
Fake. Come on guys.
hitdog would know  
Brandon Walsh : 2/24/2017 10:04 am : link
He batted a 1.000 last year.
Still some maneuvering going on  
JonC : 2/24/2017 10:06 am : link
when you consider MG's note about $12M per and than Ranaan's note about $15M per ...
Can't be fake it was posted on the internet.  
Blue21 : 2/24/2017 10:31 am : link
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RE: Still some maneuvering going on  
mrvax : 2/24/2017 10:31 am : link
In comment 13370396 JonC said:
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when you consider MG's note about $12M per and than Ranaan's note about $15M per ...


Jon, I'm thinking something big happened already causing JPP to fly & tweet. Jenkins called JPP and he got tipped off that the D would be together again. Then both 20-something years olds were told to put a lid on it.

That's my non-asshat best guess.
RE: Isn't this that th definition of  
Sonic Youth : 2/24/2017 10:44 am : link
In comment 13370277 Essex said:
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its likely fans reading way too much  
UConn4523 : 2/24/2017 10:48 am : link
into what a twitter comment means.
RE: RE: Still some maneuvering going on  
JonC : 2/24/2017 10:56 am : link
In comment 13370430 mrvax said:
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In comment 13370396 JonC said:


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when you consider MG's note about $12M per and than Ranaan's note about $15M per ...



Jon, I'm thinking something big happened already causing JPP to fly & tweet. Jenkins called JPP and he got tipped off that the D would be together again. Then both 20-something years olds were told to put a lid on it.

That's my non-asshat best guess.


It could be, but then I'd expect something else to have leaked by now.
Love the hitdog  
Carl in CT : 2/24/2017 12:04 pm : link
Except he likes the Nets.
Please explain to me,  
Doomster : 2/24/2017 12:41 pm : link
the leverage the Giants have over JPP....
At this point...  
Milton : 2/24/2017 12:52 pm : link
I still don't think the tweets/posts from JPP and Jenkins were meaningless. Until I hear of an alternative explanation to what they meant, I'm going on the assumption that a verbal agreement is in place and it's only a matter of dotting t's and crossing eyes.
RE: just like Pugh  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 2/24/2017 4:12 pm : link
In comment 13370334 area junc said:
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Everyone wants to extend Pugh - but why would he want to? his value is down coming off injury and struggling late in the year. he'd probably rather just hit the open market unless we blow him away, and why would we right now?


Yes, Pugh may want to play this year at his 8.5 cap number and cash in next year. The risk there for him is the unlikely event that he could have a catastrophic injury, and a bigger concern would be that a poor showing this year diminishing his value further.

A new contract this year might be less lucrative than it could be next year, but a nice bonus check and security might be intriguing for him.

The Giants might like to extend him to lower the cap number this year, but that assumes that they are ready to commit to him long term.

Honestly, I'm not sure what is going to happen with Pugh. If I had to guess I'd say he plays out this year on his current contract.
RE: At this point...  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 2/24/2017 4:14 pm : link
In comment 13370654 Milton said:
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I still don't think the tweets/posts from JPP and Jenkins were meaningless. Until I hear of an alternative explanation to what they meant, I'm going on the assumption that a verbal agreement is in place and it's only a matter of dotting t's and crossing eyes.


My guess is that JPP and Jenkins thought it was closer than it actually is and jumped the gun a bit.
I won't believe it until I see something from slade.  
Damon : 2/24/2017 4:46 pm : link
Then three days later it will happen.
I feel like every time BBI does the "leverage" thing  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/24/2017 5:43 pm : link
The fans are usually entirely wrong.
RE: Please explain to me,  
Milton : 2/24/2017 5:56 pm : link
In comment 13370641 Doomster said:
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the leverage the Giants have over JPP....
The franchise tag. They can keep him off the open market. Yes, yes, I realize we would all love it if the leverage someone had over us was that they could force us to accept a one year contract for $17M, but it's not like JPP is saying bring it on.
RE: I feel like every time BBI does the  
Essex : 2/24/2017 9:36 pm : link
In comment 13370952 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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The fans are usually entirely wrong.


Um this is the leverage in a nutshell
JPP doesn't want franchise tag much more than we don't want him to count 17 mil against the cap. It is really easy since JPP says he wants a OV type contract and we probably would pay him about 13 mill a year in a long term. You don't have to be a football executive to see who has the more to lose by not signing long term deal with Giants.
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