KP in a walking boot w/ sprained ankle: shut him down.
Next game is at philly. Knicks are currently 1 game ahead of them. Not saying, but I'm saying.
Around the league, using Dan's format:
-Houston spoils DMC's debut. I don't think many people realize just how good Lou williams has been this year. Career year, 24 PER. It's unfair having Gordon and Lou Williams smash through other teams backups. If they weren't the 2nd best team in the league before I think they are now. Only team that can keep up with GS just because of the sheer number of 3s they can make.
-Cousins 27 14 and 5, 5 steals, 4 blocks
-Davis 29 and 9
-Lou Williams 27 points in 25 mins
-KCP 33 and 9
-Harris 25 and 7
-Curry 35, KD 25
-Dame 33
-WCS with 29 and 10. Starting his $100M man campaign. This guy is going to be really damn good with cousins gone.
-Hield 16 and 6. 100% OK with SAC winning games. Rooting for SAC, Dallas, NO, POR, and MIN to finish ahead of the Knicks. Outside chance of philly as well.
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that durant is now a champion and should be mentioned with the greats, he ring xhased in the prime of his career, which he has every right to do, but he should never be mentioned with any of the greats when it comes to championships...
You don't have to convince me to hate on Durant, but when it's said and done I don't think I can name more than 10-15 players I'd take over him. His only real flaw is that he's not as good of a passer as Lebron. Not even sure that can be a real flaw.
Agreed that when it's all said and done that Durant will be considered one of the top 10-20 players of all time, but one of the 10 or so guys I would absolutely put ahead of him is Shaq. Just rubs me the wrong way to see him call a guy that has won more, and was a more dominant player than him, "unskilled." Like really? You're going to try to talk down on Shaq because he made fun of Javale McGee in a TV segment?
I don't know if this is contrarian but I consider Shaq ahead of Kobe and Duncan. I dont care if it was size or skill, whatever Shaq was, was unstoppable.
And its funny KD is calling out Shaq for being unskilled while Javale Mcgee might actually be the ultimate combination of size and sheer athleticism that's been in the NBA maybe ever and has had a hard time sticking on a roster.
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i look at it like this, would james be looked at as one of the greatest ever without the rings?
that is my point, durant is a hell of a player but i dont want his championship they win this year to be talked aboit as a reason why
And my point is that is an overreaction. Everyone was saying the same exact thing when Lebron went to Miami. If he wins one ring in GS and thats it, that would be a disappointment. But if he wins the next 3-4 he will be talked about as the best player on the greatest team ever assembled. The narrative would change dramatically if that happened.
it changed for lebron because people realized how much he carried that team..
without bron they do not win titles, without durant the warriors are still goimg to win 1 or 2 titles...
Not sure if thats a certainty. And there is a difference between winning 1 title and 3/4-peating. too early to say that about the Warriors but the potential for that is there. And if that happens, the narrative will certainly change for KD.
I'd toss in Isaac into that group but I agree with your premise. I think top 6 is a priority, will have options if within the top 5 though.
no everyobe said it was a 4 person draft begore lotto night, then knicks got 4 and it became a 3 person draft...
i remember woj saying how it was a deep draft and he saw 4 top guys, then all of sudden he switxhed to it is a 3 person draft and the knicks are tradong out
i think he would be a perfect 6th man on a contending team..
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But boy he heats up like no one else in college ball.
i think he would be a perfect 6th man on a contending team..
That's selling him short. He can average 25 ppg in the NBA. He's not a primary playmaker. Has sixers written all over him.
They're going to draft lauri markannen
To be fair, it's not like big name draft PGs always work out. A lot of people loved Mudiay and Russell.
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knicks are going to draft a player at a position other than pg and bring back this entire team
To be fair, it's not like big name draft PGs always work out. A lot of people loved Mudiay and Russell.
i loved mudiay, hated russell
I like the Knicks by double figures. Rose goes for 25 and 8. Hernangomez has 15/15.
isnt that the definition of a 6th man?
i see him as an eric gordon type, hopefully without the injuries
he's back on the baseline laying down, maybe taking a nap?
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Melo's gonna cost us three draft slots as a nice parting gift.
he's back on the baseline laying down, maybe taking a nap?
he does the same thing every game..
I dont care how well Holiday has been, he should have been subbed 5 minutes ago. Thomas and Holiday are just chucking now.
Holiday and Thomas have 9 of the last 11 shot attempts.
Lance Thomas gets the Knicks closer to the promised land with that turnover.
Knicks problem starts with Hornacek first.
Same
as much as i know tanking is the way to go, i cant get mad at wins...
when they lose i can see thr brightside but i cant root for losses
He isnt even a good defender.
He isnt even a good defender.
You had people on here saying how great of a signing that was by Phil Jackson. I couldn't believe that crap.
Lmao "tank commander"
That's awesome
As for Rose, he got lucky with Thibs wanting him. Rubio has plenty of flaws, but flipping Rose for
Rubio would have been productive for the long term. Instead Phil botched the negotiations.
Now the Knicks are playing out the string with Melo and Rose being good enough to beat shitty teams and lose to good ones. They'll probably end up picking in 10-12 range. When they should be trying to get to the top of the draft for a generational talent like Lonzo Ball, they are going the other way. What a distaster of a team.
As for Rose, he got lucky with Thibs wanting him. Rubio has plenty of flaws, but flipping Rose for
Rubio would have been productive for the long term. Instead Phil botched the negotiations.
Now the Knicks are playing out the string with Melo and Rose being good enough to beat shitty teams and lose to good ones. They'll probably end up picking in 10-12 range. When they should be trying to get to the top of the draft for a generational talent like Lonzo Ball, they are going the other way. What a distaster of a team.
first off trading melo to the clippets would not of been a salary dump..
maybe you should go read the reports timberwolves said no not the knicks
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With a good GM, Rose or Carmelo would not be on the Knicks right now. A high level GM would have a found a trade for Melo- even if it was the Clippers in a salary dump. Moving him was the way to go and he couldn't get it done.
As for Rose, he got lucky with Thibs wanting him. Rubio has plenty of flaws, but flipping Rose for
Rubio would have been productive for the long term. Instead Phil botched the negotiations.
Now the Knicks are playing out the string with Melo and Rose being good enough to beat shitty teams and lose to good ones. They'll probably end up picking in 10-12 range. When they should be trying to get to the top of the draft for a generational talent like Lonzo Ball, they are going the other way. What a distaster of a team.
first off trading melo to the clippets would not of been a salary dump..
maybe you should go read the reports timberwolves said no not the knicks
I see the issue. You based all your info off final reports.
T-Wolves contacted the Knicks awhile ago. Jackson and Mills were adamant that the Knicks receive picks to come back with Rubio. This has been heavily reported throughout the process. At the 11th hour the Knicks said okay forget about the picks but the T-Wolves said forget it at that point.
So yes the Knicks did indeed by ALL ACCOUNTS blotched the Rose for Rubio deal.
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With a good GM, Rose or Carmelo would not be on the Knicks right now. A high level GM would have a found a trade for Melo- even if it was the Clippers in a salary dump. Moving him was the way to go and he couldn't get it done.
As for Rose, he got lucky with Thibs wanting him. Rubio has plenty of flaws, but flipping Rose for
Rubio would have been productive for the long term. Instead Phil botched the negotiations.
Now the Knicks are playing out the string with Melo and Rose being good enough to beat shitty teams and lose to good ones. They'll probably end up picking in 10-12 range. When they should be trying to get to the top of the draft for a generational talent like Lonzo Ball, they are going the other way. What a distaster of a team.
first off trading melo to the clippets would not of been a salary dump..
maybe you should go read the reports timberwolves said no not the knicks
I see the issue. You based all your info off final reports.
T-Wolves contacted the Knicks awhile ago. Jackson and Mills were adamant that the Knicks receive picks to come back with Rubio. This has been heavily reported throughout the process. At the 11th hour the Knicks said okay forget about the picks but the T-Wolves said forget it at that point.
So yes the Knicks did indeed by ALL ACCOUNTS blotched the Rose for Rubio deal.
I meant just dumping Melo to the Clippers for barely anything. Done correctly, Melo could have moved. Instead Phil pissed him off and complicated everything.
I'm basing it on all the reports I read and heard. If you can flip Rose for Rubio, you make it happen. You don't need them to include 2nd round pick or Bjelica.
I can't believe fans still defend this guy. He's been an outright failure.
and marc stein said knicks went to wolves and said rubio for rose and they say no..
of course you ask for a pick or another player, you are the ones adding salary...
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With a good GM, Rose or Carmelo would not be on the Knicks right now. A high level GM would have a found a trade for Melo- even if it was the Clippers in a salary dump. Moving him was the way to go and he couldn't get it done.
As for Rose, he got lucky with Thibs wanting him. Rubio has plenty of flaws, but flipping Rose for
Rubio would have been productive for the long term. Instead Phil botched the negotiations.
Now the Knicks are playing out the string with Melo and Rose being good enough to beat shitty teams and lose to good ones. They'll probably end up picking in 10-12 range. When they should be trying to get to the top of the draft for a generational talent like Lonzo Ball, they are going the other way. What a distaster of a team.
first off trading melo to the clippets would not of been a salary dump..
maybe you should go read the reports timberwolves said no not the knicks
I see the issue. You based all your info off final reports.
T-Wolves contacted the Knicks awhile ago. Jackson and Mills were adamant that the Knicks receive picks to come back with Rubio. This has been heavily reported throughout the process. At the 11th hour the Knicks said okay forget about the picks but the T-Wolves said forget it at that point.
So yes the Knicks did indeed by ALL ACCOUNTS blotched the Rose for Rubio deal.
why thr hell would you not ask for more? so in a negotiation you just take the first offer you can get?
knicks would of been adding salary of course you ask for a pick or a other player...
als if knicks would of made that trade and drafted a point guard, you and tyree would be the first ones complaining rubio is starting over the drafted point guards...
and marc stein said knicks went to wolves and said rubio for rose and they say no..
of course you ask for a pick or another player, you are the ones adding salary...
I would have traded Melo for that. Get Brice Johnson and a future pick. The value of moving Melo is not having him around to win games like last night. Getting a top 4 pick instead of one 9-13 is incredibly valuable. I don't see some great package the Knicks are getting in the offseason for him.
If you wanted Rubio, blowing up a trade over Bjelica or a 2nd round pick is stupid and shows Phil's ineptitude.
Please let me know a trade he has won in 3 years.