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NFL Compensatory Picks Announced

Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/24/2017 3:28 pm
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#Giants fourth round pick was knocked down 10 spots as punishment for sideline walkie-talkie use. Now 140th overall

NFL Announces 32 Compensatory Draft Choices to 16 Clubs - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/24/2017 3:29 pm : link
* As the result of League discipline, the New York Giants’ original selection in Round 4 (4-23-130) has been relegated to selection 4-34-140. Because that pick is a regular selection, it does not appear on the above list of compensatory draft selections.
Wow.  
AcidTest : 2/24/2017 3:43 pm : link
Cleveland gets a third, two fourths, and a fifth, to go along with all their other draft picks. Cincinnati, Denver, and Kansas City also got a lot.
I don't totally understand  
Chris684 : 2/24/2017 3:47 pm : link
how the compensatory system works but I just feel like it doesnt seem totally fair.
After our free agent haul in 2016, no surprise here.  
regulator : 2/24/2017 3:57 pm : link
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Chris684 or anyone  
SLIM_ : 2/24/2017 3:59 pm : link
Agreed. I've always found it very arbitrary.

What did the Steeler's do to earn a 3rd round pick. They lost a marginal starter (Beachum who got hurt I believe) and some other occasional starters.

They did come away with a starter - Green who also got hurt.
11 third round picks awarded  
Beer Man : 2/24/2017 4:28 pm : link
That really pushes the Giants' fourth round back.
RE: Chris684 or anyone  
Milton : 2/24/2017 4:55 pm : link
In comment 13370879 SLIM_ said:
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Agreed. I've always found it very arbitrary.

What did the Steeler's do to earn a 3rd round pick. They lost a marginal starter (Beachum who got hurt I believe) and some other occasional starters.

They did come away with a starter - Green who also got hurt.
It's not arbitrary, which is why it's become relatively predictable for those who study it. The problem with it is that it's mostly based on money, but not always real money, i.e., the average salary over the length of a contract isn't always a true reflection of how much the player is actually going to be paid.

Beachum is probably a good example...
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On March 15, 2016, the Jacksonville Jaguars signed Beachum to a one-year, $5 million contract that includes a four-year, $40 million option with $1.5 million guaranteed.
So did the formula view it as a one year $5M contract or a five year $45M contract? It's the difference between a contract that averages $5M over one year and one that averages $9M over 5 years. Judging by the 3rd round comp pick, I'd say it counted as the latter.

RE: 11 third round picks awarded  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/24/2017 5:19 pm : link
In comment 13370896 Beer Man said:
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That really pushes the Giants' fourth round back.

Not really. At least not in terms of the punishment. And you'd have to compare to prior years to determine the marginal value - it's not like the 23rd pick in the 4th round was ever going to be the 119th pick in the draft.
Unusual distributions  
Fred in Atlanta : 2/24/2017 5:44 pm : link
Most years there are a couple of third round picks and a lot of sixth and seventh round picks. This year it seems to be reverse.
RE: Wow.  
Saos1n : 2/24/2017 5:55 pm : link
In comment 13370863 AcidTest said:
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Cleveland gets a third, two fourths, and a fifth, to go along with all their other draft picks. Cincinnati, Denver, and Kansas City also got a lot.


Not really... the 3rd rounder is sent to the Patriots due to the Jamie Collins trade and one of the 4th rounders go to Philly as part of the Wentz trade
Our 4th  
old man : 2/24/2017 6:24 pm : link
is a like a traditional, pre-comp era 5th, right near our own 5th.
Use 4-7 to move up in a round or two, go UDFA for players since our picking at that level is about the same success rate.
RE: Unusual distributions  
Gatorade Dunk : 2/24/2017 7:22 pm : link
In comment 13370953 Fred in Atlanta said:
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Most years there are a couple of third round picks and a lot of sixth and seventh round picks. This year it seems to be reverse.

I wonder if the comp pick formula didn't evolve to match the salary cap increase. That would explain the unusual distribution.
Really hurts  
XBRONX : 2/24/2017 7:42 pm : link
Reese has done such a stellar job after round two.
Woohoo  
Mike in NY : 2/24/2017 7:46 pm : link
Compensatory Third Round pick in BBI Mock Draft!
I don't get compensatory picks in a salary cap league  
slickwilly : 2/25/2017 7:03 am : link
Every team is working under the same restrictions. You get outbid or can't afford to keep your players that is on you, no? I get it in MLB that has no cap and NHL when draft picks don't sign, but why in the NFL? Another contributor to the mediocrity we are seeing with today's NFL imo.
RE: I don't get compensatory picks in a salary cap league  
Milton : 2/25/2017 7:28 am : link
In comment 13371074 slickwilly said:
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Every team is working under the same restrictions. You get outbid or can't afford to keep your players that is on you, no? I get it in MLB that has no cap and NHL when draft picks don't sign, but why in the NFL? Another contributor to the mediocrity we are seeing with today's NFL imo.
Actually, comp picks do the opposite of contributing to mediocrity because--unlike the draft itself--they reward the smart/good teams and penalize the stupid/bad teams.
Zero NFC East Picks  
GMen23 : 2/25/2017 12:23 pm : link
Except where noted above, a Cleveland 4th Rd pick goes to the Eagles, happened to notice, no picks to our division rivals either.
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