For me, I have this weird feeling that they'll sign Alshon Jeffery. Not that I want them to or think it's a great idea. Just something I wouldn't be surprised of.
Zeitler hard, whatever it takes. Guy is turning 27 and is a complete stud. He has given up one sack the past two years combined. Imagine adding him and Whitworth to this team? Talk about a complete revamp of the Oline. It's a pipedream I know
Is to stay away from older and/or injury prone players when giving out big deals. Therefore, I don't see Jeffery as an options. If the player is older/injury prone then I see them going more for prove it deals like Robinson.
That is also why I feel they will not be big players for Whitworth. He will have many suitors so it will be a bidding war imo. I think Reiff is much more likely of a target.
I think our own players will be priority number one. Outside of the OL I don't think they spend a lot on other FA. WRs are too expensive. Just look at what Sanu got last year. I do see us bringing in a TE amd RB but that would probably be a bargain type deal.
The one wildcard may be DT if we do not keep Hankins. I don't see how JPP leaves so I am assuming he will be back.
if possible; JPP, Hank, Robinson IMO. Then a full court press on adding Oline talent and I think they'll court Okung and Rieff. I think they'll bring in Bennett and a few other TEs, a few RBs, like Lacy, but it's hard to say how it's going to go down until the contracts start flying and they see what they have available to compete. There are many teams with same desires we have with tons of cap space.
others have said, I agree the Giants will mostly be concerned about resigning their own FAs, specifically JPP. But I think if he gets to FA the chances of that happening drop dramatically.
JPP: 60/40 he stays.
Hankins: Almost certainly gone. I read a report that someone might offer him $9M a year, which is ridiculous. Thomas also looked good in limited snaps, and we can draft a day three run stuffer. I'd rather keep Hankins than JPP because he's cheaper, healthier, and younger, but the reverse is more likely.
Robinson: resign.
Okung will be our only big outside FA. No to Whitworth, Reiff, Zeitler, or Jeffrey.
If we keep JPP I think we do have to say goodbye to Hankins and pick up a young DT in the draft and we go after mid tier guys for OL and maybe depth at WR.
I think Giants will go after an OL for sure but depends on the price for OT. I don't see Zeitler. I like him a lot but he's going to have lots of offers and get a rich deal.
Again I don't see an blockbuster signings this year for us. If we don't keep JPP I think they will spread the money around a bit
...but I can see us bringing in Okung. I'd prefer Whitworth. Both are strong possibilities.
Kenny Stills. Not the ideal size I'd prefer but he thrived behind Jarvis Landry in a role he'll recreate here. I think he'll be very effective and more affordable than some of the other options.
IF JPP walks(I don't expect it to happen) Calais Campbell will come strong on our radar.
With JPP, Hankins to sign and the greatest needs on the OL spending a lot on Jeffery seems very unlikely. Some vet WR, sure. But he would have to have a pretty modest salary considering the other needs.
Who, then? One of the OGs mentioned. They only have one starting OG on the roster so that seems a must. An OT as well. Then a TE.
Is to stay away from older and/or injury prone players when giving out big deals. Therefore, I don't see Jeffery as an options. If the player is older/injury prone then I see them going more for prove it deals like Robinson.
That is also why I feel they will not be big players for Whitworth. He will have many suitors so it will be a bidding war imo. I think Reiff is much more likely of a target.
I think our own players will be priority number one. Outside of the OL I don't think they spend a lot on other FA. WRs are too expensive. Just look at what Sanu got last year. I do see us bringing in a TE amd RB but that would probably be a bargain type deal.
The one wildcard may be DT if we do not keep Hankins. I don't see how JPP leaves so I am assuming he will be back.
Agree, their model last year was to only sign accelerating players which they did in Jenkins, Harrison and Vernon. They batted a 1000 and Reese was lauded, they're not moving away from what worked. They'll stick to the same plan, this time focusing on offensive players. Guys like Zeitler, Leary and Jack Doyle fit that model. Guys like Jeffrey, Bennett and sorry to say it Whitworth don't.
If they're serious about a last run or two with Eli, I think it's frankly more important for the Giants to fix the OL than it is to retain Hankins (much as I like him). Bromley or whoever could hold the fort at DT and Spags can get creative.
Is Okung the answer? After having a rough year in Denver -- and not getting re signed, it's hard to imagine him being better on the Giants. At this point is he just "Marshall Newhouse on the left side?" Or even better than Beatty? I'm not suggesting one way or the other, I really don't know. But Okung's arrow would appear to be pointing down, not up.
Keep JPP 1st. He’s a Giant. We need minimum 2 starters on OLine. Flowers, may have been the worse LT, but there were so many times when he didn’t lose his matchup, but Jerry, Newhouse/Hart did. I would love Brandon opposite Odell, on a NY discount.
A former 2nd rounder who is 6'6 251 according to Google. Who has been stuck on the bench behind Witten just like Bennett. He would be cheap and much better than what we have in Tye.
Jason Pierre Paul
Keenan Robinson
Johnathon Hankins
Leon Hall
Brian Quick
Christine Michael
Denard Robinson
Gavin Escobar
Andrew Whitworth
John Jerry
Marshall Newhouse
I think the Giants will look to bring in a starting LT to compete with Flowers. Whitworth, Hart, Flowers, Pugh, Richburg, Jones, Jerry, Newhouse, and a draft pick and some UDFAs is a solid amount of competition. The rest of the offensive additions will be underwhelming competition for draft picks except Quick who I think would be a big jump in production. Still, guys like Rainey, Donnell, Jennings, and Darkwa might not be in the NFL next year so replacing them with talent isn't an overly onerous task. I'd like to see them get Lacy and a guy like Bush or woodhead at RB but I don't think that is realistic.
Bring back the defense with some competition and depth from rookies. On offense small increases in talent at a handful of spots should be enough to improve the offense.
A former 2nd rounder who is 6'6 251 according to Google. Who has been stuck on the bench behind Witten just like Bennett. He would be cheap and much better than what we have in Tye.
He wasn't just stuck behind Witten; he also got demoted to third string behind James Hanna, and then Geoff Swaim. The Cowboys line up in 12 personnel a fair amount of the time, so there is room for a 2nd TE to see the field even with Witten atop their depth chart; it just hasn't been Escobar.
Bennett flashed at times but clearly had some maturity and focus issues because he couldn't accept his role with the Cowboys. Conversely, Escobar has talent issues: he's a below average blocker and even though he was drafted based mainly on his receiving skills (his blocking deficiencies were well chronicled coming out of college), he has 30 catches in 4 seasons. By comparison, Bennett had 85 during his 4 seasons with Dallas.
I'll repeat - Escobar sucks. And he has an Achilles tear in his not-so-distant past. Pass. Link - ( New Window )
Tough to say. There are so many possibilities. Do think they will focus on offense (surprise) and probably sign 2 OL, a TE and a WR. I also think they won't be able to sign more than 2 Tier 1 FA due to cap limitations. That said, here are my guesses and why:
OT-Riley Reiff-can play both sides and will be much cheaper than Whitworth.
OG-Luke Joeckel-former #1 who hasn't returned that value yet (Reese loves those reclamation projects) who can play G or T.
TE-Jack Doyle-developing receiver/blocker who'd be an immediate starter. Great name for New York too.
WR-Brian Quick-another former high draft pick who's been playing on a bad team but seems ready to break out.
He can't play LT well. He lost his job there for good reason. We have options at RT where Hart would be my first choice with Flowers to RG. Of course this presumes we sign Whitworth or Okung, guys that have legit track records at LT.
Flowers is flirting with the bust label at his current position. We have to at least buy an insurance policy. Whitworth and Okung make the most sense as they're probably amenable to shorter term deals(leaving a potential return to LT possible for Flowers if he can in fact get his act together) and have played the requisite LT spot well. There are a number of quality OG's available, any of them will be an upgrade to Jerry.
them to re-sign hankins,robinson and hall of thier own FA
depending on the numbers jpp as well if he wants to much they need to draft a De with either the first or second round pick
ideally would like a TE first the offence needs another weapon there but the draft would be deep enough to go DE then TE
of the free agents i would like them to get at least 1 OL pref an OT and use a high to mid round pick on an OG who can push to start year 1,also they need to add another OG from the second tier FA market to replace jerry and newhouse for good
warford maybe if he comes at the right price
Some RB help with Murray or Burkhead. I'd lean towards Burkhead because he'll be cheaper.
TE: a top priority and I can see them making a strong play for Doyle but this is a loaded TE class so they may want to spend this cash at OL. But I really like Doyle and think he could be a good starter for 5 years.
OL: The top priority. Maybe Reif from DET. Hes coming off his rookie deal and played both sides at T. They can figure out what to do with Flowers and put this guy at the other spot.
That is also why I feel they will not be big players for Whitworth. He will have many suitors so it will be a bidding war imo. I think Reiff is much more likely of a target.
I think our own players will be priority number one. Outside of the OL I don't think they spend a lot on other FA. WRs are too expensive. Just look at what Sanu got last year. I do see us bringing in a TE amd RB but that would probably be a bargain type deal.
The one wildcard may be DT if we do not keep Hankins. I don't see how JPP leaves so I am assuming he will be back.
Kenny Britt
Reilly Reiff (ugh)
Doyle
Woods
I think Big Hank will cost too much money, so they'll let him walk, just like they did with other good but not great DTs (Joseph and Griffin).
Also, I don't think the Giants place enough value on guards, so I don't think they go after Zeitler.
I also think Zeitler will end up costing a lot more than Whitworth (even though Zeitler is a guard) because he's 8 years younger.
JPP: 60/40 he stays.
Hankins: Almost certainly gone. I read a report that someone might offer him $9M a year, which is ridiculous. Thomas also looked good in limited snaps, and we can draft a day three run stuffer. I'd rather keep Hankins than JPP because he's cheaper, healthier, and younger, but the reverse is more likely.
Robinson: resign.
Okung will be our only big outside FA. No to Whitworth, Reiff, Zeitler, or Jeffrey.
I think Giants will go after an OL for sure but depends on the price for OT. I don't see Zeitler. I like him a lot but he's going to have lots of offers and get a rich deal.
Again I don't see an blockbuster signings this year for us. If we don't keep JPP I think they will spread the money around a bit
Robinson and a couple of middle of the road guys. Perhaps Escobar from the Cowboys?
Kenny Stills. Not the ideal size I'd prefer but he thrived behind Jarvis Landry in a role he'll recreate here. I think he'll be very effective and more affordable than some of the other options.
IF JPP walks(I don't expect it to happen) Calais Campbell will come strong on our radar.
Who, then? One of the OGs mentioned. They only have one starting OG on the roster so that seems a must. An OT as well. Then a TE.
That is also why I feel they will not be big players for Whitworth. He will have many suitors so it will be a bidding war imo. I think Reiff is much more likely of a target.
I think our own players will be priority number one. Outside of the OL I don't think they spend a lot on other FA. WRs are too expensive. Just look at what Sanu got last year. I do see us bringing in a TE amd RB but that would probably be a bargain type deal.
The one wildcard may be DT if we do not keep Hankins. I don't see how JPP leaves so I am assuming he will be back.
Agree, their model last year was to only sign accelerating players which they did in Jenkins, Harrison and Vernon. They batted a 1000 and Reese was lauded, they're not moving away from what worked. They'll stick to the same plan, this time focusing on offensive players. Guys like Zeitler, Leary and Jack Doyle fit that model. Guys like Jeffrey, Bennett and sorry to say it Whitworth don't.
that much I know. He will be costly I believe.
I think we sign 2 OL: Larry Warford from Detroit at RG and Russel Okung LT from Denver.
Maybe a WR, either Aiken from Baltimore or Brian Quick from LA Rams.
Escobar sucks. We don't need their Donnell.
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Escobar sucks. We don't need their Donnell.
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I don't get what people see in this guy. They can find a better prospect in the middle rounds of the draft.
If they're serious about a last run or two with Eli, I think it's frankly more important for the Giants to fix the OL than it is to retain Hankins (much as I like him). Bromley or whoever could hold the fort at DT and Spags can get creative.
Is Okung the answer? After having a rough year in Denver -- and not getting re signed, it's hard to imagine him being better on the Giants. At this point is he just "Marshall Newhouse on the left side?" Or even better than Beatty? I'm not suggesting one way or the other, I really don't know. But Okung's arrow would appear to be pointing down, not up.
Keenan Robinson
Johnathon Hankins
Leon Hall
Brian Quick
Christine Michael
Denard Robinson
Gavin Escobar
Andrew Whitworth
John Jerry
Marshall Newhouse
I think the Giants will look to bring in a starting LT to compete with Flowers. Whitworth, Hart, Flowers, Pugh, Richburg, Jones, Jerry, Newhouse, and a draft pick and some UDFAs is a solid amount of competition. The rest of the offensive additions will be underwhelming competition for draft picks except Quick who I think would be a big jump in production. Still, guys like Rainey, Donnell, Jennings, and Darkwa might not be in the NFL next year so replacing them with talent isn't an overly onerous task. I'd like to see them get Lacy and a guy like Bush or woodhead at RB but I don't think that is realistic.
Bring back the defense with some competition and depth from rookies. On offense small increases in talent at a handful of spots should be enough to improve the offense.
Kenny Britt
Reilly Reiff (ugh)
The Giants are NEVER signing Kenny Britt and bringing him back to the Central NJ area.
OL
and Doyle
He wasn't just stuck behind Witten; he also got demoted to third string behind James Hanna, and then Geoff Swaim. The Cowboys line up in 12 personnel a fair amount of the time, so there is room for a 2nd TE to see the field even with Witten atop their depth chart; it just hasn't been Escobar.
Bennett flashed at times but clearly had some maturity and focus issues because he couldn't accept his role with the Cowboys. Conversely, Escobar has talent issues: he's a below average blocker and even though he was drafted based mainly on his receiving skills (his blocking deficiencies were well chronicled coming out of college), he has 30 catches in 4 seasons. By comparison, Bennett had 85 during his 4 seasons with Dallas.
I'll repeat - Escobar sucks. And he has an Achilles tear in his not-so-distant past. Pass.
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OT-Riley Reiff-can play both sides and will be much cheaper than Whitworth.
OG-Luke Joeckel-former #1 who hasn't returned that value yet (Reese loves those reclamation projects) who can play G or T.
TE-Jack Doyle-developing receiver/blocker who'd be an immediate starter. Great name for New York too.
WR-Brian Quick-another former high draft pick who's been playing on a bad team but seems ready to break out.
Then the TE, Dion Sims from Miami.
depending on the numbers jpp as well if he wants to much they need to draft a De with either the first or second round pick
ideally would like a TE first the offence needs another weapon there but the draft would be deep enough to go DE then TE
of the free agents i would like them to get at least 1 OL pref an OT and use a high to mid round pick on an OG who can push to start year 1,also they need to add another OG from the second tier FA market to replace jerry and newhouse for good
warford maybe if he comes at the right price
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The Giants are NEVER signing Kenny Britt and bringing him back to the Central NJ area.
Kenny Britt to the Eagles. Book it.
Wagner imo should be our biggest target outside of JPP and Hankins.
My top four:
JPP
Hanks
Wagner
KRobinson
TE: a top priority and I can see them making a strong play for Doyle but this is a loaded TE class so they may want to spend this cash at OL. But I really like Doyle and think he could be a good starter for 5 years.
OL: The top priority. Maybe Reif from DET. Hes coming off his rookie deal and played both sides at T. They can figure out what to do with Flowers and put this guy at the other spot.
And sign 2 Rutgers guys: WR Britt and DB Ryan!!!