Mets first baseman Lucas Duda has received an injection for soreness in his back and hip and he will sit out the next few days, reports Newsday's Marc Carig.
Im saying Nimmo is turning into Yelich but I think that's the dream everyday player comparison based on their profiles if everything worked out perfect (It wont).
Mets have zero catching depth. If they lose Plawecki the next catcher might be Xorge Carrillo.. 27 years old with a career .682 OPS. Plawecki walking off with the trainers but able to put weight on the leg.
is literally a carbon copy of Yelich Pre-2016 before he came into a bit more power. Yelich is even better in a corner and plays CF only sparingly.
Nimmo's age 23 season in the PCL (and Vegas of all places) isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison to a guy who made his MLB debut at age 21 directly from AA.
is literally a carbon copy of Yelich Pre-2016 before he came into a bit more power. Yelich is even better in a corner and plays CF only sparingly.
Nimmo's age 23 season in the PCL (and Vegas of all places) isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison to a guy who made his MLB debut at age 21 directly from AA.
How does that have anything to do with what you said? You asked for an everyday player profile if Nimmo's game translated to the majors. I could have picked somebody that was 37.
they've probably just accepted that versatility is going to be something Nimmo has to excel at to carve out a role. I'm curious if they give him some reps at 1st also given the Duda news. It's hard to find a good every day player comp for Nimmo's profile, but the way he hustled and grinds out at bats is somewhat reminiscent of Darin Erstad (though I'd conisder that a very optimistic and remote outcome for Nimmo at this point). Cecchini too for that matter. Bruce shifting to first would be best case but if he can't do it would be nice to see a wide open competition between Flores, Rivera, and any of the other young guys whose paths to MLB are somewhat blocked.
Nimmo reminds me a lot of Kirk N.
Kirk had more power, but lacked the patience/plate discipline Nimmo has.
He had no power until last year (people still thought he was good pre-2016), a little speed but not much. Basically is a High OBP, high average bat which Ill admit is rarity for a corner OF.
Before Nimmo got lost in prospect fatigue/Vegas (or whatever it was) scouts even said he might have power that would blossom later (similar to Yelich also)
of a hitter in my mind. Big strikeout, big power, all or nothing swinger. Nimmo is a high average, high OBP guy with little to no power. lol.
In 2118 minor league AB's Kirk had 549 k's .829 OPS
In 1934 minor league AB's Nimmo had 479 K's .811 OPS
In 1169 minor league AB's Yelich had 274 K's .883 OPS
Kirk and Yelich are closer comps than Nimmo and Yelich LOL.
You're taking career minor league numbers for a guy that was drafted as an 18-year-old who didn't even play high school ball. He was as raw as it gets. On top of that, he battled a series of injuries for years before finally seemingly coming into his own last year. Career minor league numbers are absurd anyway as your literally developing, growing, and changing year to year.
I was very specific in saying "Nimmo's 2016 season in Vegas" when comparing him to Yelich anyway.
is literally a carbon copy of Yelich Pre-2016 before he came into a bit more power. Yelich is even better in a corner and plays CF only sparingly.
Nimmo's age 23 season in the PCL (and Vegas of all places) isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison to a guy who made his MLB debut at age 21 directly from AA.
How does that have anything to do with what you said? You asked for an everyday player profile if Nimmo's game translated to the majors. I could have picked somebody that was 37.
This is probably just semantics but a profile usually takes into account more than just a comparison 1 single season's stats, especially if they're at drastically different ages/situations. I just think it's overly generous to compare Nimmo to a guy who made it to the majors 3 years faster, consistently showed more power in the minors from day, and has a much better glove. To me, that most likely means Yelich is a lot more talented than Nimmo.
is literally a carbon copy of Yelich Pre-2016 before he came into a bit more power. Yelich is even better in a corner and plays CF only sparingly.
Nimmo's age 23 season in the PCL (and Vegas of all places) isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison to a guy who made his MLB debut at age 21 directly from AA.
How does that have anything to do with what you said? You asked for an everyday player profile if Nimmo's game translated to the majors. I could have picked somebody that was 37.
This is probably just semantics but a profile usually takes into account more than just a comparison 1 single season's stats, especially if they're at drastically different ages/situations. I just think it's overly generous to compare Nimmo to a guy who made it to the majors 3 years faster, consistently showed more power in the minors from day, and has a much better glove. To me, that most likely means Yelich is a lot more talented than Nimmo.
Yelich's glove is not good and again I didn't compare them against each other. You asked for a player's "game" that Nimmo's might mirror in the majors if everything worked out. How is it not a good comparison? What's the dream scenario for Nimmo? High OBP, high average, CO with maybe a little CF, not a lot of pop and not a lot of speed.
Walker seems a little more enthusiastic about the possibility than Bruce. It's been discussed with him already and although there's no concrete plan in place, he's anticipating a trip to minor league camp to get some reps at the position. Walker played some first base in Triple-A and doesn't see it being a steep learning curve.
"I'm up for it. I brought a first base glove, I brought a third base glove and I brought a second base glove," Walker said. "There's kind of a general plan. We've talked about finding time to go to the back fields when spring training starts up (for position players). They don't want to kill us, they don't want me taking a ton of ground balls at second, third and first in a day. But I think to learn the position, I just need a refresher course." Link - ( New Window )
it looks like we can't rely on Duda again at 1B this season?
Deja vu all over again.
"But the Mets plan to roll out their expected lineup for 2017 was not to be in an 8-6 loss to the Washington Nationals. First baseman Lucas Duda, who missed four months last season with a stress fracture in his back, sat out with stiffness in his hips. The injury has Manager Terry Collins concerned enough that he checked out his internal options, with Wilmer Flores starting at first.
Duda felt stiffness in his back and his hips after a recent workout. Although his back improved, his hips remained troublesome, Collins said, prompting Duda to receive a cortisone shot in each hip on Friday.
Collins said he had received no indication that the stiffness in Dudas hips was related to last years back injury, but everything in the lower body is connected, he noted."
don't trust Duda to stay healthy (and I find the Mets lack of downplaying the soreness to be concerning) but he thinks he will be okay
Lucas Duda missed all three workouts this past weekend and after getting a cortisone shot Friday in each of his hips.
"We'll take a few days now, instead of taking two weeks down the road," Duda explained, according to NJ.com. "We're just being cautious. In a couple days, I should be ready to go."
Duda, who missed more than 100 games last season due to a stress fracture in his back, said the two conditions are related, but does not expect to get another cortisone shot before getting back on field.
"I think it's just a spasm, that kind of let the pressure out of the back," he added. "I don't foresee it being an issue."
don't trust Duda to stay healthy (and I find the Mets lack of downplaying the soreness to be concerning) but he thinks he will be okay
Lucas Duda missed all three workouts this past weekend and after getting a cortisone shot Friday in each of his hips.
"We'll take a few days now, instead of taking two weeks down the road," Duda explained, according to NJ.com. "We're just being cautious. In a couple days, I should be ready to go."
Duda, who missed more than 100 games last season due to a stress fracture in his back, said the two conditions are related, but does not expect to get another cortisone shot before getting back on field.
"I think it's just a spasm, that kind of let the pressure out of the back," he added. "I don't foresee it being an issue."
I don't trust him either to be a full time 150+ games first baseman. I expect Wilmer and Bruce to play 30+ games each at 1B this year.
Of all the options, I think I might want to see Walker @ 1B over the other options. Bruce is the best option in theory because it lets you get Conforto in the lineup but I worry about Bruce fielding that position. I think Walker would handle it much better.
If nothing else, at least we have some options.
Catcher is more worrisome. I really wish we had made a move for a vet stopgap to give us a little more cushion.
Nimmo's age 23 season in the PCL (and Vegas of all places) isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison to a guy who made his MLB debut at age 21 directly from AA.
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is literally a carbon copy of Yelich Pre-2016 before he came into a bit more power. Yelich is even better in a corner and plays CF only sparingly.
Nimmo's age 23 season in the PCL (and Vegas of all places) isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison to a guy who made his MLB debut at age 21 directly from AA.
How does that have anything to do with what you said? You asked for an everyday player profile if Nimmo's game translated to the majors. I could have picked somebody that was 37.
Nimmo reminds me a lot of Kirk N.
Kirk had more power, but lacked the patience/plate discipline Nimmo has.
Before Nimmo got lost in prospect fatigue/Vegas (or whatever it was) scouts even said he might have power that would blossom later (similar to Yelich also)
In 2118 minor league AB's Kirk had 549 k's .829 OPS
In 1934 minor league AB's Nimmo had 479 K's .811 OPS
In 1169 minor league AB's Yelich had 274 K's .883 OPS
Kirk and Yelich are closer comps than Nimmo and Yelich LOL.
but the three are not that different.
I was very specific in saying "Nimmo's 2016 season in Vegas" when comparing him to Yelich anyway.
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is literally a carbon copy of Yelich Pre-2016 before he came into a bit more power. Yelich is even better in a corner and plays CF only sparingly.
Nimmo's age 23 season in the PCL (and Vegas of all places) isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison to a guy who made his MLB debut at age 21 directly from AA.
How does that have anything to do with what you said? You asked for an everyday player profile if Nimmo's game translated to the majors. I could have picked somebody that was 37.
This is probably just semantics but a profile usually takes into account more than just a comparison 1 single season's stats, especially if they're at drastically different ages/situations. I just think it's overly generous to compare Nimmo to a guy who made it to the majors 3 years faster, consistently showed more power in the minors from day, and has a much better glove. To me, that most likely means Yelich is a lot more talented than Nimmo.
.369 Avg. 3 HRs, 99 RBIS, 96 SBs, 118 BBs, 43ks, .973 OPS
.369 Avg. 3 HRs, 99 RBIS, 96 SBs, 118 BBs, 43ks, .973 OPS
No way. That's just a freakish line.
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is literally a carbon copy of Yelich Pre-2016 before he came into a bit more power. Yelich is even better in a corner and plays CF only sparingly.
Nimmo's age 23 season in the PCL (and Vegas of all places) isn't exactly an apples to apples comparison to a guy who made his MLB debut at age 21 directly from AA.
How does that have anything to do with what you said? You asked for an everyday player profile if Nimmo's game translated to the majors. I could have picked somebody that was 37.
This is probably just semantics but a profile usually takes into account more than just a comparison 1 single season's stats, especially if they're at drastically different ages/situations. I just think it's overly generous to compare Nimmo to a guy who made it to the majors 3 years faster, consistently showed more power in the minors from day, and has a much better glove. To me, that most likely means Yelich is a lot more talented than Nimmo.
Yelich's glove is not good and again I didn't compare them against each other. You asked for a player's "game" that Nimmo's might mirror in the majors if everything worked out. How is it not a good comparison? What's the dream scenario for Nimmo? High OBP, high average, CO with maybe a little CF, not a lot of pop and not a lot of speed.
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will there ever be a player that replicates his 1916 season.
.369 Avg. 3 HRs, 99 RBIS, 96 SBs, 118 BBs, 43ks, .973 OPS
No way. That's just a freakish line.
Never. Tony Gwynn maybe the closest modern day comp. And it's not close.
"I'm up for it. I brought a first base glove, I brought a third base glove and I brought a second base glove," Walker said. "There's kind of a general plan. We've talked about finding time to go to the back fields when spring training starts up (for position players). They don't want to kill us, they don't want me taking a ton of ground balls at second, third and first in a day. But I think to learn the position, I just need a refresher course."
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Juan Lagares, CF
Michael Conforto, RF
Neil Walker, 2B
Travis d'Arnaud, C
Brandon Nimmo, LF
Ty Kelly, DH
Dominic Smith, 1B
Matt Reynolds, 3B
Deja vu all over again.
Deja vu all over again.
"But the Mets plan to roll out their expected lineup for 2017 was not to be in an 8-6 loss to the Washington Nationals. First baseman Lucas Duda, who missed four months last season with a stress fracture in his back, sat out with stiffness in his hips. The injury has Manager Terry Collins concerned enough that he checked out his internal options, with Wilmer Flores starting at first.
Duda felt stiffness in his back and his hips after a recent workout. Although his back improved, his hips remained troublesome, Collins said, prompting Duda to receive a cortisone shot in each hip on Friday.
Collins said he had received no indication that the stiffness in Dudas hips was related to last years back injury, but everything in the lower body is connected, he noted."
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Lucas Duda missed all three workouts this past weekend and after getting a cortisone shot Friday in each of his hips.
"We'll take a few days now, instead of taking two weeks down the road," Duda explained, according to NJ.com. "We're just being cautious. In a couple days, I should be ready to go."
Duda, who missed more than 100 games last season due to a stress fracture in his back, said the two conditions are related, but does not expect to get another cortisone shot before getting back on field.
"I think it's just a spasm, that kind of let the pressure out of the back," he added. "I don't foresee it being an issue."
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Mets vs. Astros, Feb. 27:
Cabrera SS
Granderson CF
Cespedes LF
Wright DH
Bruce RF
Flores 1B
T.J. Rivera 2B
R. Rivera C
Evans 3B
Conlon LHP
Lucas Duda missed all three workouts this past weekend and after getting a cortisone shot Friday in each of his hips.
"We'll take a few days now, instead of taking two weeks down the road," Duda explained, according to NJ.com. "We're just being cautious. In a couple days, I should be ready to go."
Duda, who missed more than 100 games last season due to a stress fracture in his back, said the two conditions are related, but does not expect to get another cortisone shot before getting back on field.
"I think it's just a spasm, that kind of let the pressure out of the back," he added. "I don't foresee it being an issue."
I don't trust him either to be a full time 150+ games first baseman. I expect Wilmer and Bruce to play 30+ games each at 1B this year.
If nothing else, at least we have some options.
Catcher is more worrisome. I really wish we had made a move for a vet stopgap to give us a little more cushion.