they were all pretty much as advertised. Often school players will minimize or exaggerate a weight or measurement.
Was curious to see where Adam Shaheen measured in as he was reported anywhere from 6'7" to 6'5", and he's 6'5" which is where most of the bigger TE's are. His school weight was reported as 277, and he weighed EXACTLY 277, which is surprising as bigger guys can typically add or shed a few pounds.
for ideal TE , too
Pope always said 6'4" is perfect (blocking leverage) -thats Njoku
But 6'5" can't be too bad. Howard Cross was 6'5", and one of the best blocking TE's ever. 6'5", 270. Hmm . . . ? Almost exactly the same size as Adam Shaheen! ;-)
Olsen, Witten, and Graham are all >6'5 (per Wiki). I'd take a TE of that caliber on the Giants any day and aside from Graham, all of those guys were above average run blockers.
6'4", 5" or 6" doesn't matter a hill of beans by itself, there's a lot more that goes into being an effective blocker. Howard Boss was 6'6" and did a pretty good job. As mentioned, Howard Cross was 6'5" and was great. I've watched a guy in this draft, Michael Roberts, who is 6'4" drive DE's 4 yards off the l.o.s. when he gets his hands and feet set properly.
I hear about Howard the more of a stud he looks like. If he somehow drops out of the top 15, he's a player I wouldn't mind trading a 3rd to move up and grab him.
some reports had him at 6'4 prior to this measurement.
which makes him over 6'6, possibly close to 6'7 with cleats on. Kid is going top 10.
I'm not sure I understand why it matters what his height in cleats is. For one thing, doesn't the other team wear cleats also (i.e., the relative height differential doesn't change)? For another, don't the cleats go into the ground (i.e., it doesn't really change his functional height on the field)?
Alabama had him listed at 6'6" on their roster - this just confirms that his listed height is basically accurate. I don't think this has any effect on his draft stock at all.
some reports had him at 6'4 prior to this measurement.
which makes him over 6'6, possibly close to 6'7 with cleats on. Kid is going top 10.
You don't want your TE's too tall, it makes it more difficult for them to get low when blocking. I recall the recently retired Mike Pope saying this about the near 6'7" Kevin Boss.
Guy just never had the production, just seems like just another case of people getting caught up in numbers and potential versus what's seen on the field. Alabama had two "iffy" passing QBs, seems to me they'd have thrown to the safe option which is TE. He's going to go too high, I think Leggett is better pick later in the draft.
Zay Jones, 6'2 1/8", 201
Mike Williams, 6'3 5/8", 218
which makes him over 6'6, possibly close to 6'7 with cleats on. Kid is going top 10.
good lord. That's a big boy.
Was curious to see where Adam Shaheen measured in as he was reported anywhere from 6'7" to 6'5", and he's 6'5" which is where most of the bigger TE's are. His school weight was reported as 277, and he weighed EXACTLY 277, which is surprising as bigger guys can typically add or shed a few pounds.
Seems like another Ebron to me.. Hopefully someone takes him ahead of us and helps drop a superior prospect to us like Ebron did in 2014 (obj).
Pope always said 6'4" is perfect (blocking leverage) -thats Njoku
There are obviously exceptions to everything, but I believe prototypical size for a TE is about 6'4 250lbs
Pope always said 6'4" is perfect (blocking leverage) -thats Njoku
But 6'5" can't be too bad. Howard Cross was 6'5", and one of the best blocking TE's ever. 6'5", 270. Hmm . . . ? Almost exactly the same size as Adam Shaheen! ;-)
Weight 257
Hands 10 1/8"
Wingspan 78"
which makes him over 6'6, possibly close to 6'7 with cleats on. Kid is going top 10.
I'm not sure I understand why it matters what his height in cleats is. For one thing, doesn't the other team wear cleats also (i.e., the relative height differential doesn't change)? For another, don't the cleats go into the ground (i.e., it doesn't really change his functional height on the field)?
Alabama had him listed at 6'6" on their roster - this just confirms that his listed height is basically accurate. I don't think this has any effect on his draft stock at all.
He already did according to CBS Draft Scout which now ranks him as the 4th best TE in the draft.
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Not until he posts his 40 time.
which makes him over 6'6, possibly close to 6'7 with cleats on. Kid is going top 10.
Incredible. He is the guy I want even if it will take him some time to develop. Njoku and OBJ... damn
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Had an 82 1/2 inch wingspan. That's insane. For comparison JPP had an 81 inch wingspan.
Incredible. He is the guy I want even if it will take him some time to develop. Njoku and OBJ... damn
Does that officially make him the JPP of TEs?