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COMBINE DAY 1 THREAD OL, RB

sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 8:00 am
This is one of the weakest OT classes in recent years but it doesn't mean we can't find a quality tackle. Ryan Ramczyk won't participate due to recent surgery. Garrett Boles may break agility records for the position but will have to answer a lot of questions about his past. With that said I still think Alabama's Cam Robinson is the best tackle in this class. The hate has gone too far and the talk of him needing to move inside is overblown imo.
The next tier has a lot of intriguing talent. Antonio Garcia has the athleticism and length you want from a LT. He added nine pounds between the Senior Bowl and Combine but still needs more. He's expected to time well in the 40. Dion Dawkins and Taylor Moton are two of my favorite lineman in the class for their hard nose, blue collar play. I could see them at RT or RG. Justin Senior is a bit underrated and worth watching. No lineman probably has more intrigue though than Bucknell's Julie'n Davenport. Small school All American and two time captain but at 6'7" with 36 1/2" arms and nearly 11" hands, I'm sure teams can't wait to see how he tests. He had an uneven Senior Bowl but has a high ceiling. Among the top interior lineman are Forrest Lamp, Dan Feeney and Ethan Pocic. All three could go in the top two rounds with Lamp and Feeney possibly going in the first.

While OL may not be seen as deep, RB is as deep as it's been in a while. Dalvin Cook, Leonard Fournette and Christian McCaffrey are first round talents that will attract alot of airplay. Along with Cook, the diminutive Tarik Cohen, a former track star could challenge Chris Johnson's 40 record, but he's not the only legit challenger. Kareem Hunt has been rising. Matthew Dayes is a sleeper I like. But honestly I could go on and on. RB is very deep this year. You can easily get a starter on Day 3 from this class.

Coverage starts at 8 but first 40 is at 9.
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Good overall  
SCGiantsFan : 3/3/2017 8:21 am : link
Synopsis.thanks.

Have yet to follow who is who at "X" position.
The tackles stink  
Torrag : 3/3/2017 9:01 am : link
I don't have a Top 20 grade in comparison to the last decade. At #23 Robinson should be in play for us. He could lock down the right side for a long time. He's my #1 OT by a fair margin and my only 1st rounder. That said there are players I'd draft before him but will they be there? Who knows.

We should draft a RB from this class. When is the question. For me the value is in Rounds 3/4. Marlon Mack and Dont'e Foreman are two guys I think the Giants will be interested in.
Bring in the Rb 40's  
superspynyg : 3/3/2017 9:04 am : link
Should be a fun day.....I love these days
We're underway  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 9:14 am : link
Isaac Asiata 5.35
Zach Banner  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 9:15 am : link
5.58 40
1.92 split

Lincoln Kennedy's son
Garrett Boles  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 9:16 am : link
4.96 40
1.71 split
Really don't need a separate post for every stat  
Diver_Down : 3/3/2017 9:18 am : link
when you can reference the link in Klaatu's thread.
Combine Results Tracker - ( New Window )
Aviante Collins  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 9:18 am : link
4.78 40
1.69 split

Thanks DD  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 9:18 am : link
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Keep posting, sj.  
Diver_Down : 3/3/2017 9:22 am : link
I didn't mean to knock what you are doing. Just that Klaatu's link has the resuls aggregated in one place/chart for easier comparison.

Keep up the good work.
Aviante Collins is an intriguing project.  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/3/2017 9:34 am : link
He's a true dancing bear: 6'4", 295, 34 reps and a sub-4.8 40 (unofficially 4.75 on nfl.com). Seems to be a draftable day-three prospect, based on athleticism and attitude.

For what it's worth, here's a link to the NFL's own Combine Tracker.
Combine Tracker on nfl.com - ( New Window )
Sj  
Big Rick in FL : 3/3/2017 9:34 am : link
Please keep posting on here. Much easier for me to read on my phone while at work. Thanks!!
No problem guys  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 9:37 am : link
Collins is the fastest in the clubhouse in Group 1. No surprise, both of his parents were college sprinters. Very versatile. Played every position except center but has long snapping experience. The kind of athletic, versatile player every team needs.

I'll pick up 40's again once the next group starts
Bolles  
ryanmkeane : 3/3/2017 9:51 am : link
didn't participate in the bench press. Is there an injury? That's a bit odd for OL.
Mike Solari  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 9:55 am : link
is leading the current drill
Ryan  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/3/2017 9:56 am : link
I heard on the radio yesterday Bolles has a little tear I think in his pec muscle
RE: Bolles  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 9:58 am : link
In comment 13377371 ryanmkeane said:
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didn't participate in the bench press. Is there an injury? That's a bit odd for OL.


I read that's the reason he didn't but wasn't specific. Same for Robinson
RE: Ryan  
ryanmkeane : 3/3/2017 9:58 am : link
In comment 13377378 Pete from Woodstock said:
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I heard on the radio yesterday Bolles has a little tear I think in his pec muscle

Got it, thanks
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ryanmkeane : 3/3/2017 9:58 am : link
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I'd take Pat Elflein in second round and have a very nice player for 10 years.
RE: Really don't need a separate post for every stat  
Klaatu : 3/3/2017 10:00 am : link
In comment 13377331 Diver_Down said:
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when you can reference the link in Klaatu's thread. Combine Results Tracker - ( New Window )


Come on, Dude. sjnyfan's combine threads are a tradition around here. Not only are they informative, but they stimulate discussion.
LOL  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 10:03 am : link
Thanks Klaatu. No offense taken but glad to still assist the site this way every year
Clement  
RAIN : 3/3/2017 10:06 am : link
Rb from Wisconsin. I'll be here interested to see what he runs and how he moves. Not any hype around him, but I caught a couple games and he stood out. Reminded me of Radhard Mendenhall in style and body type.
Bolles  
cokeduplt : 3/3/2017 10:13 am : link
Is looking real good so far. I would be happy if he was the pick
RE: Bolles  
Ira : 3/3/2017 10:18 am : link
In comment 13377406 cokeduplt said:
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Is looking real good so far. I would be happy if he was the pick


He's my first choice.
RE: Aviante Collins is an intriguing project.  
njm : 3/3/2017 10:20 am : link
In comment 13377351 Big Blue Blogger said:
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He's a true dancing bear: 6'4", 295, 34 reps and a sub-4.8 40 (unofficially 4.75 on nfl.com). Seems to be a draftable day-three prospect, based on athleticism and attitude.

For what it's worth, here's a link to the NFL's own Combine Tracker. Combine Tracker on nfl.com - ( New Window )


2 runs in the 4.95 range at the combine. A little light, but interesting strength and speed. Certainly worth a look on Day 3 or as an UDFA
Bolles  
ryanmkeane : 3/3/2017 10:20 am : link
looks extremely athletic - most likely can handle speed rushers. Power might be another story.
Aviante Collins official 4.81  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 10:23 am : link
Only 40s faster since '03 are Terron Armstead and Lane Johnson. That's great company.

I'm very intrigued by DII prospect Ethan Cooper. His lower half is all muscle and he uses it well. Very good in drills including the kick slide. 6'3" nearly 330 lbs and they just put up on NFLN a pic of him dunking. That's a crazy amount of power.
RE: Bolles  
cokeduplt : 3/3/2017 10:25 am : link
In comment 13377422 ryanmkeane said:
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looks extremely athletic - most likely can handle speed rushers. Power might be another story.


Yea disappointing he didn't bench. I think Bisniwatty would be a nice 2/3rd pick too
Shaun O'Hara said Cooper reminds him of Snee  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 10:26 am : link
Sign me up!
Mayock  
ryanmkeane : 3/3/2017 10:28 am : link
and others very high on Dawkins for G so far throughout the process. Would love him at RG.
I'm excited to see  
ryanmkeane : 3/3/2017 10:29 am : link
Robinson and Lamp in the next group..
Fournette will run the 40  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 10:30 am : link
Weighed in at 240 but says he played at 225-230. Called it "water weight".
RE: I'm excited to see  
Klaatu : 3/3/2017 10:38 am : link
In comment 13377436 ryanmkeane said:
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Robinson and Lamp in the next group..


For me, it's the two big Johnsons and Nico Siragusa.
RE: I'm excited to see  
cokeduplt : 3/3/2017 10:39 am : link
In comment 13377436 ryanmkeane said:
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Robinson and Lamp in the next group..


Same here, just wish Ramczyck was healthy enough.
Man..  
ryanmkeane : 3/3/2017 11:02 am : link
Robinson is just a beast of a guy. If he can figure everything out, he's a long term pro bowler at tackle.
Robinson  
ryanmkeane : 3/3/2017 11:09 am : link
is also a pretty confident guy and seems that he addressed the arrest pretty up front with teams. Good to see.
Can Elflein play guard?  
Rick in Dallas : 3/3/2017 11:15 am : link
Very athletic in the drills.
Second group...finally  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 11:16 am : link
Kyle Fuller

5.25 40
1.81 Split
Antonio Garcia  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 11:17 am : link
1.88 Split
5.26 40

I thought he'd be quicker
Danny Isidora, The U  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 11:20 am : link
1.73 Split
5.04 40
Forrest Lamp  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 11:21 am : link
1.76 Split
4.99 40

Run Forrest Run! (sorry)
Yes!  
ryanmkeane : 3/3/2017 11:22 am : link
Lamp looking smooth
RE: Forrest Lamp  
PatersonPlank : 3/3/2017 11:23 am : link
In comment 13377553 sjnyfan said:
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1.76 Split
4.99 40

Run Forrest Run! (sorry)


Like many, I Love Lamp. 34 on the benchpress.
Taylor Moton  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 11:25 am : link
1.86 Split
5.18 40
Ethan Pocic  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 11:26 am : link
1.82 Split
5.12 40

LSU center but can he play other positions at 6'6"?
Cam Robinson  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 11:27 am : link
1.78 Split
5.15 40

Not a guard
Cam looked good  
PatersonPlank : 3/3/2017 11:27 am : link
I think he is the pick if he gets to us. If not I Love Lamp.
Justin Senior  
sjnyfan : 3/3/2017 11:28 am : link
1.99 Split
5.64 40

Yikes
Bring Cam in.  
PatersonPlank : 3/3/2017 11:28 am : link
If he wins at Tackle play him there, if he looks better at Guard then play him instead of Jerry. Either way he is in the starting 5 OL.
RE: Bring Cam in.  
ryanmkeane : 3/3/2017 11:29 am : link
In comment 13377569 PatersonPlank said:
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If he wins at Tackle play him there, if he looks better at Guard then play him instead of Jerry. Either way he is in the starting 5 OL.

Agreed. With a hopefully improved Flowers, we'd have some big dudes out there.
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