Giants have expressed some initial interest in TE Anthony Fasano, according to NFL source. Nothing formal yet. Jets also have some interest. link - ( New Window )
You might possibly have the most predictable responses to potential free agent signings over 30 years old.
And I will continue to be predictable as long as we get older, instead of younger, UNLESS the vet minimum is in play..
We have two 25 year-old TEs on the roster who may or may not be Pro material, and a 26 year-old who's fairly underwhelming. Odds are we'll draft another young TE this year. There's nothing wrong with bringing in a veteran for a reasonable amount of money, especially one that can block.
But I'd welcome this signing, I don't need to do research to know the Giants had the worst blocking TE's in football last season. Wouldn't it be nice to have an edge sealed for a change allowing a back to bounce to the outside. I still expect the Giants to draft a TE in the first two rounds. How nice would it be to have a TE group consisting of either Howard, Njoku, Everett, Engram, Butt, Leggett or Hodges as the premier guy, then Fasano as the blocking TE and finally Tye as depth or an H-back type weapon. Throw Will Johnson in as the FB, sign an adequate LT allowing Flowers to go to RT and draft a decent guard in the 3rd round and the offense will be significantly improved.
I'd definitely take Fasano. That's not going to prevent them from signing anyone they want (though I'd cut Thomas to "create" the space.
Biggest problem is that Fasano still doesn't give them a #1 TE unless Adams takes a significant leap. Whereas Tye is only a receiving threat, Fasano is basically just a blocking 'threat', albeit he's one of the best whereas Tye is average at best at his 1 skill. Makes the offense more predictable and limits options.
Above average blocking at TE, HBack, RB and FB will be a big contributor to turning around the offense.
The idea it has to be the 5 upfront is simplistic and misguided. I'd gladly give the money saved cutting Jennings to a Fasano type TE for the next two years.
last time I checked we don't have one of those although Adams looked good in limited time.
I'm not sure why Will Johnson is getting a free pass on this roster. He was a low priced option last year, doesn't have prototypical size as a tight end and was out all last year with neck issues. Maybe a little more versatile than Fasano as he may be able to play fullback better but you bring in guy like Fasano and we should be able to run the ball better off the edge and pass protect.
Should he start. Ideally, we get some guy like Njoku but then we have the ability to run more double tight end sets and not go in 1-1 formation 98% of the time like last year.
guy who can still block. Offers little in the passing game. Would rather go with Tye, Adams, and a draft pick. No interest, unless for vet minimum as someone said.
We don't have a blocking tight end on the roster. How on earth is this a waste of money or a roster slot? First off he's not getting a lot of money. Second, we have no TEs that can block! I said that second point twice because it needed to be said twice.
It's a waste of money to fix the shittiest blocking TEs in NFL history? Wha??
Not sure why him being 33 is a problem, or why he needs to sign a vet minimum deal. Some posters on this site need to get over this fascination that all free agents signed need to be 25 years old, up and coming stars with no injury history and stellar reputations, and signed for a "reasonable" price. Free agency doesn't work that way. You sign guys other teams didn't need anymore, or didn't want to pay what they wanted.
Signing Fasano for a couple of million a year for the next couple of years upgrades the offensive line immediately and does not prevent us from signing anyone.
RE: I mentioned this a while back as some old asshat
info. Fasano wanted to come to the Giants a few years ago and it didn't work out. He wants to spent the end of his career back at home. I have some common friends of his from Verona that mentioned this.
I know a family member as well, he showed interest in NYG after Kevin Boss was let go. Not a sexy add but makes sense.
info. Fasano wanted to come to the Giants a few years ago and it didn't work out. He wants to spent the end of his career back at home. I have some common friends of his from Verona that mentioned this.
I know a family member as well, he showed interest in NYG after Kevin Boss was let go. Not a sexy add but makes sense.
Exactly close to home to play bocci ball he got done in verona park..lol jk. Good guy.
and not let someone who is a Free Agent CHOOSE to leave the Giants..
Bennett was an average TE who was paid a lot of money. He was not worth the 9 million in salary he would have cost especially with Cruz and Nicks who was healthy back then both needed contracts..
If Gronk earns $9M with a checkered injury past...
that we had to spread replacement Myers deal over two years or more years (it was a one year deal masquerading as a multiple year deal guaranteed to incur dead money).
the true bungle was bringing in Myers at all, let alone paying him more than vet minimum.
How many times did we attempt to run outside the tackles?
I cannot remember too many successful runs outside the tackles. We coukd never seal off the edge of a defense. Getting a blocking TE is crucial. Tye is not that guy.
Start Adams with Fasano coming in and we would be all set. I dont want to spend a high draft pick on a TE, Adams was drafted by us already. Give him a chance, he has all the measureables.
will come to the Giants. He is one of my clients and I know him pretty well. Just hung out with him a few weeks ago ... I think he is leaning towards retirement unless there is an offer for a decent chunk of money.
I'll always love him
djm : 1:47 pm : link : reply
For allowing a Giants DB or LB to knock a td pass away from his hands in the 07 divisional playoff game beteeen nyg and Dallas. I want to say it was gibril Wilson?
I'll always love him
djm : 1:47 pm : link : reply
For allowing a Giants DB or LB to knock a td pass away from his hands in the 07 divisional playoff game beteeen nyg and Dallas. I want to say it was gibril Wilson?
I thought he dropped it.....
If you watch the replay you see Wilson definitely made things tougher for Fasano. Whether he actually knocked the ball away or not is tough to tell but he definitely was all up in Fasano's bubble. My impression is Wilson got his fingers in there.
Tye is not now, nor will he ever be any kind of answer at TE. Who knows what Adams might be, but the idea that Tye is ever going to be "Pro Bowl-calibre" is laughable. He couldn't even start for most teams in the league.
Fasano or not, in a draft that is so deep at TE, the Giants need to draft at least one -- this is a great year to get one. Now that they signed Marshall, if a good pass rusher isn't available at 23 (none of the OTs seem worth a 23), they should consider Howard or Njoku. If they're gone, they can get guys in the MID ROUNDS who are better than anyone they currently have at TE.
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Pass unless Vet minimum
You might possibly have the most predictable responses to potential free agent signings over 30 years old.
And I will continue to be predictable as long as we get older, instead of younger, UNLESS the vet minimum is in play..
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In comment 13381966 Big Blue '56 said:
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Pass unless Vet minimum
You might possibly have the most predictable responses to potential free agent signings over 30 years old.
And I will continue to be predictable as long as we get older, instead of younger, UNLESS the vet minimum is in play..
We have two 25 year-old TEs on the roster who may or may not be Pro material, and a 26 year-old who's fairly underwhelming. Odds are we'll draft another young TE this year. There's nothing wrong with bringing in a veteran for a reasonable amount of money, especially one that can block.
Don't take that tone of voice with ME, pally.
Anyway...I'd offer him something similar to what he got from the Titans a couple of years ago...maybe a little bit sweeter (Spotrac)
As for where the money comes from, who cares? We need a good blocking TE almost as much as we need to upgrade our O-Line.
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Not going to be the only TE #Giants contact. Heard they're monitoring top of the TE market (Bennett, Cook, Doyle, etc) as well
Biggest problem is that Fasano still doesn't give them a #1 TE unless Adams takes a significant leap. Whereas Tye is only a receiving threat, Fasano is basically just a blocking 'threat', albeit he's one of the best whereas Tye is average at best at his 1 skill. Makes the offense more predictable and limits options.
The idea it has to be the 5 upfront is simplistic and misguided. I'd gladly give the money saved cutting Jennings to a Fasano type TE for the next two years.
I like the Fasano idea, we could make due with Fasano, draft a TE and sign a top WR. ( Brandon Marshall please)
If we don't sign a top WR (Jeffrey, Marshall, Pryor) we have to sign a pass catching TE. They cost more than blocking TEs.
This is a 2 year window people, can't abandon the future but planning for life after Eli seems counter productive to seizing the moment.
I'm not sure why Will Johnson is getting a free pass on this roster. He was a low priced option last year, doesn't have prototypical size as a tight end and was out all last year with neck issues. Maybe a little more versatile than Fasano as he may be able to play fullback better but you bring in guy like Fasano and we should be able to run the ball better off the edge and pass protect.
Should he start. Ideally, we get some guy like Njoku but then we have the ability to run more double tight end sets and not go in 1-1 formation 98% of the time like last year.
And while I like Bennett, no way am I giving him $9M per.
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We don't have a blocking tight end on the roster. How on earth is this a waste of money or a roster slot? First off he's not getting a lot of money. Second, we have no TEs that can block! I said that second point twice because it needed to be said twice.
It's a waste of money to fix the shittiest blocking TEs in NFL history? Wha??
Giving us real flexibility moving into the draft.
Signing Fasano for a couple of million a year for the next couple of years upgrades the offensive line immediately and does not prevent us from signing anyone.
I know a family member as well, he showed interest in NYG after Kevin Boss was let go. Not a sexy add but makes sense.
Top-graded run-blocking TEs of 2016
Anthony Fasano, TEN, 88.1
Nick O'Leary, BUF, 83.1
Tyler Eifert, CIN, 77.9
Charles Clay, BUF, 77.6
Going to go ahead and assume Donnell was 5th on that list.
Agreed
I'll echo the poster who said a good blocking TE is like an OL upgrade too
Doesn't hurt to have quality blocking TE either, especially with our RZ running woes.
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info. Fasano wanted to come to the Giants a few years ago and it didn't work out. He wants to spent the end of his career back at home. I have some common friends of his from Verona that mentioned this.
I know a family member as well, he showed interest in NYG after Kevin Boss was let go. Not a sexy add but makes sense.
Exactly close to home to play bocci ball he got done in verona park..lol jk. Good guy.
"productive". What a joke. It'd be hard to imagine if fasano was all that expensive.
Stop looking at the glitter of catches and recognize that a good blocking TE is well worth a couple mil a year.
Bennett was an average TE who was paid a lot of money. He was not worth the 9 million in salary he would have cost especially with Cruz and Nicks who was healthy back then both needed contracts..
the true bungle was bringing in Myers at all, let alone paying him more than vet minimum.
I cannot remember too many successful runs outside the tackles. We coukd never seal off the edge of a defense. Getting a blocking TE is crucial. Tye is not that guy.
djm : 1:47 pm : link : reply
For allowing a Giants DB or LB to knock a td pass away from his hands in the 07 divisional playoff game beteeen nyg and Dallas. I want to say it was gibril Wilson?
I thought he dropped it.....
djm : 1:47 pm : link : reply
For allowing a Giants DB or LB to knock a td pass away from his hands in the 07 divisional playoff game beteeen nyg and Dallas. I want to say it was gibril Wilson?
I thought he dropped it.....
If you watch the replay you see Wilson definitely made things tougher for Fasano. Whether he actually knocked the ball away or not is tough to tell but he definitely was all up in Fasano's bubble. My impression is Wilson got his fingers in there.
Fasano or not, in a draft that is so deep at TE, the Giants need to draft at least one -- this is a great year to get one. Now that they signed Marshall, if a good pass rusher isn't available at 23 (none of the OTs seem worth a 23), they should consider Howard or Njoku. If they're gone, they can get guys in the MID ROUNDS who are better than anyone they currently have at TE.