...or someone else, I sure ain't gonna smile about our free agent dollars going to Brandon Marshall.
I'll say it again... wide receiver is not a high priority on this team.
It takes a back seat to:
TE
OT
OG
RB
LB
I couldn't disagree more. I think it's a huge need. Not as big as OL but there was no one else on the roster to divert attention from OBJ. Now there is. It will open up things for him as well as Sheppard. Now Jerry, go and improve the O-line and I'll consider it a successful off season.
How about spending money on the OL? I guess we will get our guy in the draft until we pass him up for another DL.
I get that there are limited resources and a salary cap and everything, but you know that free agency hasn't even officially started yet, right?
I mean, we're all impatient, none of us like waiting for things to happen, but can we wait until after free agency starts to get snarky over the Giants not signing guys?
As long as he keeps the locker room stuff inside the locker room, I don't have a problem with him. Last year was a down year for him, but I think that has as much to do with the Jets OL injuries and QB play as anything else. He has been a productive WR for most of his career. I'd like to believe last year was an aberration and he will provide the solid WR2 threat opposite OBJ to help open up the entire offense.
If they can somehow add OL help and a decent RB to split time with Perkins, I'll be really excited about the offense again. And maybe find a way to get Fasano or draft Howard/Njoku. I'll be dancing.
RE: Nice touch putting his name in blue on the signature line
Good signing; at that money/years it's a no brainer.
I wouldn't be surprised if Reese is targeting one of the tight ends in round 1 now. If I had to put a bet on who our pick is right now I'm going with the Miami kid.
If we get the Miami kid or OJ... man that's some group of skill players. I try not to get too invested in nyg draft hopefuls but I really want a big athletic TE here.
I think Brandon Marshall is a very dangerous receiver who can cause big problems for NFL defenses. But out of all due respect, recognizing this great receiver in the context of Amukamara is confusing to me.
Dude... are you serious.
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I think Brandon Marshall is a very dangerous receiver who can cause big problems for NFL defenses.
So they signed a guy - at below market value - who you admit causes problems for NFL teams, and yet you are "ambivalent" about it?
Strange...
Because we still have a non-existent running game behind an inferior run blocking offensive line.
And the people who can really improve those areas in free agency are not accepting 6 million dollars a year. So the goal should be to constantly improve the team and not just to hold onto money waiting for a non-existent player at a position of the most need (or to overpay at a position of the most need). The Giants just added a really good player for LESS than he was worth. If you can't get on board with that, then I don't know what to say.
This should be forcefully read to posters here that say the same tried crap every day here during FA. We get it. But some don't. Read this and try and think outside the box for a second. It's not even thinking outside the box. It's merely just thinkng.
The OTs aren't any good and if they are they will cost double or triple shah Marshall got, and we don't even know how much guaranteed money he got. And FA isn't over yet. And wr was a HUGE need. Marshall is a perfect stop gap move. Perfect. Pryor intrigued me but there was no way you'd get Pryor short term and cheap like this and Marshall is a player.
based on past performance on the field. Not so good with his past performance off the field.
This makes the team a Super Bowl contender? What if he blows out his ACL in the preseason? That's the kind of thinking that had the Eagles thinking they had a dream team.
based on past performance on the field. Not so good with his past performance off the field.
This makes the team a Super Bowl contender? What if he blows out his ACL in the preseason? That's the kind of thinking that had the Eagles thinking they had a dream team.
based on past performance on the field. Not so good with his past performance off the field.
This makes the team a Super Bowl contender? What if he blows out his ACL in the preseason? That's the kind of thinking that had the Eagles thinking they had a dream team.
Again with this off the field stuff, SMH. We won 11 games and on paper we just got better. I haven't hear or read anyone claiming this was a "dream team". Being viewed as contender isn't that far fetched IMO.
have seen him on inside the NFL--one of the reasons he signed with the giants--and he seems like a decent guy that can roll with the punches. we needed a big guy WR target--eli says hello--plus he can block--everyone seems to forget about WRs blocking, but they turn 5-10 yards into 20-30-long TD.
Well he should offer a big improvement at the position in the red zone. He should also improve our third and long conversion rate.
Unfortunately I doubt he will do much to impact the problem of consistently being in second/third-and-long situations so I doubt this will significantly improve our offense or allow us to be more consistent offensively.**
**Assumes similar approach to game planning offensively as 2016
This is a lightning in a bottle signing. I believe he has one great
Marshall is 33 yrs old. The Texans signed Ahman Green a few years ago. He was a total bust. I hope the Giants were careful with his contract. I'm always skeptical of older veterans. I don't want to see him riding the bike on the sidelines because of a groin injury.
Agreed. Not another signing (unless a JPP extension) until the OL is fixed. Every other position can wait. Our resources better be put into the OL or forget about next year we will be in the same place.
Shepard is going to have a big year, fantasy owners better grab him
Well he should offer a big improvement at the position in the red zone. He should also improve our third and long conversion rate.
Unfortunately I doubt he will do much to impact the problem of consistently being in second/third-and-long situations so I doubt this will significantly improve our offense or allow us to be more consistent offensively.**
**Assumes similar approach to game planning offensively as 2016
Best objection Ive heard all day. Totally agree. Although I dont think the LT is as necessary as a G. We can always help Tackles with TEs, but I want a big angry, ugly mean, fuck toilet of a guard on our right side.
How does this (superb) signing signal what we can or can't do in free agency moving forward? My guess is they sign at least one o lineman, a TE and a DL. And that's after this signing.
Also, do the people critical of him as as a player actually know how much he's accomplished and what he has done with literally borderline bad quarterbacks? I would have been elated if we somehow rescued Larry fitz, but we just got a version of Calvin Johnson and Plax. He's likely a hall of fame receiver who's quarterbacks have been Jay Cutler, Henne, Matt Moore...
It's not impossible he finishes in the top 3 in yards all time.
...or someone else, I sure ain't gonna smile about our free agent dollars going to Brandon Marshall.
I'll say it again... wide receiver is not a high priority on this team.
It takes a back seat to:
TE
OT
OG
RB
LB
I couldn't disagree more. I think it's a huge need. Not as big as OL but there was no one else on the roster to divert attention from OBJ. Now there is. It will open up things for him as well as Sheppard. Now Jerry, go and improve the O-line and I'll consider it a successful off season.
Conference call. It will be held soon. You can't listen in.
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Conference call. It will be held soon. You can't listen in.
Thanks, Eric. Time for me to figure out how to use the hacking tools that presented themselves yesterday!
I get that there are limited resources and a salary cap and everything, but you know that free agency hasn't even officially started yet, right?
I mean, we're all impatient, none of us like waiting for things to happen, but can we wait until after free agency starts to get snarky over the Giants not signing guys?
or Pryor's agent trying to drive up the price
I wouldn't be surprised if Reese is targeting one of the tight ends in round 1 now. If I had to put a bet on who our pick is right now I'm going with the Miami kid.
If we get the Miami kid or OJ... man that's some group of skill players. I try not to get too invested in nyg draft hopefuls but I really want a big athletic TE here.
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I think Brandon Marshall is a very dangerous receiver who can cause big problems for NFL defenses. But out of all due respect, recognizing this great receiver in the context of Amukamara is confusing to me.
Dude... are you serious.
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I think Brandon Marshall is a very dangerous receiver who can cause big problems for NFL defenses.
So they signed a guy - at below market value - who you admit causes problems for NFL teams, and yet you are "ambivalent" about it?
Strange...
Because we still have a non-existent running game behind an inferior run blocking offensive line.
And the people who can really improve those areas in free agency are not accepting 6 million dollars a year. So the goal should be to constantly improve the team and not just to hold onto money waiting for a non-existent player at a position of the most need (or to overpay at a position of the most need). The Giants just added a really good player for LESS than he was worth. If you can't get on board with that, then I don't know what to say.
This should be forcefully read to posters here that say the same tried crap every day here during FA. We get it. But some don't. Read this and try and think outside the box for a second. It's not even thinking outside the box. It's merely just thinkng.
The OTs aren't any good and if they are they will cost double or triple shah Marshall got, and we don't even know how much guaranteed money he got. And FA isn't over yet. And wr was a HUGE need. Marshall is a perfect stop gap move. Perfect. Pryor intrigued me but there was no way you'd get Pryor short term and cheap like this and Marshall is a player.
We're a better offense today.
"Brandon Marshall says Eli Manning is "already on me" about getting together with other WR in early April #Giants"
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What does the cap situation look like? Does the team have money to make a couple impact signings after this or no?
2nd tier signings, that's about it.
Put another way, swimming in the shallow pool.
Not really. They can restructure/cut guys if they need more cap room...
I named two in Vereen and DRC, who else you got?
"Brandon Marshall on Odell Beckham: "He's the biggest star in the NFL. ... The kid isn't even in his prime yet. He's a monster.""
"Brandon Marshall says he can't wait to be a part of Odell Beckham's maturation process."
@art_stapleton
Brandon Marshall: "They definitely didn't offer me the most money. It was probably the least money. It was all about a championship" #Giants
This makes the team a Super Bowl contender? What if he blows out his ACL in the preseason? That's the kind of thinking that had the Eagles thinking they had a dream team.
This makes the team a Super Bowl contender? What if he blows out his ACL in the preseason? That's the kind of thinking that had the Eagles thinking they had a dream team.
(((yawn)))
I bet he does but for a price. It will cost BM a few bucks!
This makes the team a Super Bowl contender? What if he blows out his ACL in the preseason? That's the kind of thinking that had the Eagles thinking they had a dream team.
Again with this off the field stuff, SMH. We won 11 games and on paper we just got better. I haven't hear or read anyone claiming this was a "dream team". Being viewed as contender isn't that far fetched IMO.
I had to read this a few times to make sure I understood.
You think King may take snaps away from Marshall?
Unfortunately I doubt he will do much to impact the problem of consistently being in second/third-and-long situations so I doubt this will significantly improve our offense or allow us to be more consistent offensively.**
**Assumes similar approach to game planning offensively as 2016
I get it.
I like to day drink sometimes too.
But I don't normally go full black out before supper and post on a message board.
@art_stapleton
Brandon Marshall: "They definitely didn't offer me the most money. It was probably the least money. It was all about a championship" #Giants
Well said from a guy, that if we get it going next year, could still be a beast to deal with opposite OBJ.
Remember talking about this possibility a few months ago of landing him, and it just seemed to make sense from both sides...
This will be a completely different O with him on board. Great deal too.
Welcome to the Giants!
Now let's fix the OL, find a solid DT, blocking TE and go to war with whomever we draft.
Unfortunately I doubt he will do much to impact the problem of consistently being in second/third-and-long situations so I doubt this will significantly improve our offense or allow us to be more consistent offensively.**
**Assumes similar approach to game planning offensively as 2016
Best objection Ive heard all day. Totally agree. Although I dont think the LT is as necessary as a G. We can always help Tackles with TEs, but I want a big angry, ugly mean, fuck toilet of a guard on our right side.
Also, do the people critical of him as as a player actually know how much he's accomplished and what he has done with literally borderline bad quarterbacks? I would have been elated if we somehow rescued Larry fitz, but we just got a version of Calvin Johnson and Plax. He's likely a hall of fame receiver who's quarterbacks have been Jay Cutler, Henne, Matt Moore...
It's not impossible he finishes in the top 3 in yards all time.