wonder if the best move now is working a trade for Joe Thomas (2nd round?) and drafting a TE in the 1st. Okung is an upgrade but Thomas is the jackpot.
OBJ - Shepard - Njoku - Brandon Marshall
with
Joe Thomas blocking the blind side
and
Perhaps a nice power back (Blount, Lacy, Perine?) to "finish" things off? Would give us the look of a Championship squad.
It would be a move for Eli (and not the longterm health of the franchise) but he deserves it after what we've put him through, up front.
I'd have a boxer from now till the playoffs if this played out like that. Lol. I really want Lacy and Njoku.
wonder if the best move now is working a trade for Joe Thomas (2nd round?) and drafting a TE in the 1st. Okung is an upgrade but Thomas is the jackpot.
OBJ - Shepard - Njoku - Brandon Marshall
with
Joe Thomas blocking the blind side
and
Perhaps a nice power back (Blount, Lacy, Perine?) to "finish" things off? Would give us the look of a Championship squad.
It would be a move for Eli (and not the longterm health of the franchise) but he deserves it after what we've put him through, up front.
They are not getting Thomas, but I like James Conner
in the draft at RB (been on his bandwagon).
I just think he would be a good fit, toughness for
a young kid I like too!
is very weird sometimes. When has Jerry Reese ever given the impression he will pass on a young talent because he signed a 33 year old? This is what you call a bridge signing, a stop gap (with some real 2017-2018 upside). If Reese loves a WR in the first or second he's not passing because he signed Brandon Marshall to a moderate short term deal c'mon.
Because a healthy portion of fans rarely look beyond the season at hand. It's annoying.
in his career Marshall had some hiccups but for a guy with diagnosed mental illness what exactly has he done wrong in recent history? Where is the "bad in the lockerroom" stuff from? I can't recall the last time we heard anything "bad" about him. The Jets were a dumpster fire with horrendous QB play which would be the perfect situation for a "bad" egg to lash out and he didn't.
in his career Marshall had some hiccups but for a guy with diagnosed mental illness what exactly has he done wrong in recent history? Where is the "bad in the lockerroom" stuff from? I can't recall the last time we heard anything "bad" about him. The Jets were a dumpster fire with horrendous QB play which would be the perfect situation for a "bad" egg to lash out and he didn't.
Yeah some people just can't differentiate between his Denver days and now.. Besides I am sure Snacks vouched for him thats why the deal got done so fast..
in his career Marshall had some hiccups but for a guy with diagnosed mental illness what exactly has he done wrong in recent history? Where is the "bad in the lockerroom" stuff from? I can't recall the last time we heard anything "bad" about him. The Jets were a dumpster fire with horrendous QB play which would be the perfect situation for a "bad" egg to lash out and he didn't.
is very weird sometimes. When has Jerry Reese ever given the impression he will pass on a young talent because he signed a 33 year old? This is what you call a bridge signing, a stop gap (with some real 2017-2018 upside). If Reese loves a WR in the first or second he's not passing because he signed Brandon Marshall to a moderate short term deal c'mon.
The funny thing is, if the Giants were to draft a WR early, you will also have the "Why would we draft a WR when we just signed Marshall" crowd.
All I know is this is a great signing. As many have pointed out, Marshall still has the physical presence that we've lacked in our WR corps since Nicks (in his prime). His style of play is complimentary to Shep & OBJ. I'm still hoping we can grab OJ or Njoku though.
Do not realize how good of a downfield blocker he is as well .... this is a great signing ..... I think the Giants are going to concentrate on RB OL TE in the draft but I wouldn't rule out them taking top linebacker defensive tackle and DB in this draft
Eli, is at his best throwing to taller, physical wr.this guy is going to open things up.now let's get a TE that's big and Mobile, is a good reciever and blocker.
is very weird sometimes. When has Jerry Reese ever given the impression he will pass on a young talent because he signed a 33 year old? This is what you call a bridge signing, a stop gap (with some real 2017-2018 upside). If Reese loves a WR in the first or second he's not passing because he signed Brandon Marshall to a moderate short term deal c'mon.
The funny thing is, if the Giants were to draft a WR early, you will also have the "Why would we draft a WR when we just signed Marshall" crowd.
All I know is this is a great signing. As many have pointed out, Marshall still has the physical presence that we've lacked in our WR corps since Nicks (in his prime). His style of play is complimentary to Shep & OBJ. I'm still hoping we can grab OJ or Njoku though.
so we can keep Roger Lewis, why else? :-)
I'd still love to see them grab Hodges in the 2nd or 3rd round if he's available
is very weird sometimes. When has Jerry Reese ever given the impression he will pass on a young talent because he signed a 33 year old? This is what you call a bridge signing, a stop gap (with some real 2017-2018 upside). If Reese loves a WR in the first or second he's not passing because he signed Brandon Marshall to a moderate short term deal c'mon.
It certainly does give them additional flexibility in the draft to address a pressing need.
Should change the way our offense needs to be defended by removing some pressure from OBJ.
To some posters above, this should have zero impact on who is drafted in Round 1. Zero. If a WR who the Giants are convinced will be a stuf is there at 23, they will take him, even above a TE. You don't pass on talented 21 year olds on cost controlled contracts because you have a 33 year old making only $6M/per. That isn't how it works.
and now with Beckham on the opposite side, he's going to see the easiest matchups of his career. I think he can certainly bounce-back from his 2016 season. I don't think 65-1000-8 is unreasonable expectations for him.
I had picked out Marshall as a guy I would like on the Giants. He is great fit in a WR corps that are all under 6'0" and will become a red zone target that the Giants have not had since Plax as a physical mismatch.
And if you note, throughout the season, Marshall was giving advice to Odell via the media. Back in October:
Quote:
Marshall said he saw some things from Beckham in Monday’s game in Minnesota that Beckham could do better, but Marshall seemed more troubled by the reaction after the game by the other Giants.
“I think that he can channel it a bit better, but there’s a thin line. He has to be himself,” Marshall said. “Monday night he was not himself. That’s not good for them. Coach coming out and saying ‘he needs to do this.’ No, that’s the wrong way. You’re playing with fire right there.”
and after the boat thing:
Quote:
"I don't mean to pile on, but the problem in the first half was the Giants' receivers," Marshall said. "When you're in these big moments, you cannot drop those balls. You have to come down with it. They didn't do it. They let their team down."
Joking aside, Marshall did say the party boat and trip had nothing to do with the loss to the Packers. But it doesn't matter. Fact isn't always the deciding factor when public opinion and perception are involved. It also doesn't help, Marshall said, that Beckham and Co. play in New York.
Distractions are going to be there, warranted or not. Marshall said Beckham needs to be ready for them, especially if he's going to bring more on himself. After all, no one knows about the Miami trip if not for Snapchat videos and a photo posted on Twitter.
I think people remember the younger, immature Marshall from his Broncos and Dolphins days. He has spoken about issues with mental illness. And to be honest, the past few years, Marshall seems to now to understand his role, and has become more of a leader. All season long, Marshall seemed to be offering advice as a mentor to Odell from afar. So long as Marshall can stay healthy and be the physical mismatch that he has shown, this move makes the Giants a better team. With the chance that they might have found an unlikely leader for Odell, Shepard, and King.
should be the easiest job in the NFL. Randle didn't care enough to really flourish in that role, and Cruz wasn't built to be an outside receiver even when healthy. Marshall is gonna be a monster in this role - it's an absolute perfect fit for him at this stage of his career. I wish there was a game this Sunday.
A big, physical, possession receiver was the missing piece Â
I think Adams should be given the TE spot, after all we did draft him and groom him for two years. With Perkins out of the backfield, this is a very potent attack.
I want a OL/OG in the first round. Preferably Robinson, but I'd be good with Lamp or Bolles.
great player in his heyday but he'll be 33 this month and past production is long gone.
Serviceable signing. Name of the game is get Beckham into single coverage. This will help, but WR still a big need which they'll no doubt take into draft day.
Truly great player in his prime though. Among the strongest WRs in modern NFL history.
in his career Marshall had some hiccups but for a guy with diagnosed mental illness what exactly has he done wrong in recent history? Where is the "bad in the lockerroom" stuff from? I can't recall the last time we heard anything "bad" about him. The Jets were a dumpster fire with horrendous QB play which would be the perfect situation for a "bad" egg to lash out and he didn't.
I've echoed the same. Good post..😎
You find out the character of an individual when things are
going badly, NOT when things are going well.
It's easy for chemistry in the locker room, when things
are going smoothly or well. Apparently you haven't followed
his entire career very closely, if you can only point out
the Jets situation last season. We'll see how he acts
with the Giants, I wouldn't have done it.
That is what they can afford, so...
RE: A big, physical, possession receiver was the missing piece Â
I think Adams should be given the TE spot, after all we did draft him and groom him for two years. With Perkins out of the backfield, this is a very potent attack.
I want a OL/OG in the first round. Preferably Robinson, but I'd be good with Lamp or Bolles.
I seem to like Adams a lot more than most people on BBI do. I think pairing a complimentary TE (Engram, Everett, etc.) with him would be just fine.
OBJ - Shepard - Njoku - Brandon Marshall
with
Joe Thomas blocking the blind side
and
Perhaps a nice power back (Blount, Lacy, Perine?) to "finish" things off? Would give us the look of a Championship squad.
It would be a move for Eli (and not the longterm health of the franchise) but he deserves it after what we've put him through, up front.
I'd have a boxer from now till the playoffs if this played out like that. Lol. I really want Lacy and Njoku.
OBJ - Shepard - Njoku - Brandon Marshall
with
Joe Thomas blocking the blind side
and
Perhaps a nice power back (Blount, Lacy, Perine?) to "finish" things off? Would give us the look of a Championship squad.
It would be a move for Eli (and not the longterm health of the franchise) but he deserves it after what we've put him through, up front.
They are not getting Thomas, but I like James Conner
in the draft at RB (been on his bandwagon).
I just think he would be a good fit, toughness for
a young kid I like too!
Because a healthy portion of fans rarely look beyond the season at hand. It's annoying.
Don't forget Coleman Rudolph!
Wait a minute....
Does this mean that Hankins is gone?
Kareem McKenzie!
Yeah some people just can't differentiate between his Denver days and now.. Besides I am sure Snacks vouched for him thats why the deal got done so fast..
I've echoed the same. Good post..😎
JPP signing will give us more cap room than we have now.
The funny thing is, if the Giants were to draft a WR early, you will also have the "Why would we draft a WR when we just signed Marshall" crowd.
All I know is this is a great signing. As many have pointed out, Marshall still has the physical presence that we've lacked in our WR corps since Nicks (in his prime). His style of play is complimentary to Shep & OBJ. I'm still hoping we can grab OJ or Njoku though.
Quote:
is very weird sometimes. When has Jerry Reese ever given the impression he will pass on a young talent because he signed a 33 year old? This is what you call a bridge signing, a stop gap (with some real 2017-2018 upside). If Reese loves a WR in the first or second he's not passing because he signed Brandon Marshall to a moderate short term deal c'mon.
The funny thing is, if the Giants were to draft a WR early, you will also have the "Why would we draft a WR when we just signed Marshall" crowd.
All I know is this is a great signing. As many have pointed out, Marshall still has the physical presence that we've lacked in our WR corps since Nicks (in his prime). His style of play is complimentary to Shep & OBJ. I'm still hoping we can grab OJ or Njoku though.
so we can keep Roger Lewis, why else? :-)
I'd still love to see them grab Hodges in the 2nd or 3rd round if he's available
It certainly does give them additional flexibility in the draft to address a pressing need.
Quote:
It always works out for us when we bring over a former Jet.
Love the signing. Cruz was never a jet. Add Kareem MacKenzie though.
According to Greg Buttle he was
To some posters above, this should have zero impact on who is drafted in Round 1. Zero. If a WR who the Giants are convinced will be a stuf is there at 23, they will take him, even above a TE. You don't pass on talented 21 year olds on cost controlled contracts because you have a 33 year old making only $6M/per. That isn't how it works.
And if you note, throughout the season, Marshall was giving advice to Odell via the media. Back in October:
“I think that he can channel it a bit better, but there’s a thin line. He has to be himself,” Marshall said. “Monday night he was not himself. That’s not good for them. Coach coming out and saying ‘he needs to do this.’ No, that’s the wrong way. You’re playing with fire right there.”
and after the boat thing:
Joking aside, Marshall did say the party boat and trip had nothing to do with the loss to the Packers. But it doesn't matter. Fact isn't always the deciding factor when public opinion and perception are involved. It also doesn't help, Marshall said, that Beckham and Co. play in New York.
Distractions are going to be there, warranted or not. Marshall said Beckham needs to be ready for them, especially if he's going to bring more on himself. After all, no one knows about the Miami trip if not for Snapchat videos and a photo posted on Twitter.
I think people remember the younger, immature Marshall from his Broncos and Dolphins days. He has spoken about issues with mental illness. And to be honest, the past few years, Marshall seems to now to understand his role, and has become more of a leader. All season long, Marshall seemed to be offering advice as a mentor to Odell from afar. So long as Marshall can stay healthy and be the physical mismatch that he has shown, this move makes the Giants a better team. With the chance that they might have found an unlikely leader for Odell, Shepard, and King.
I want a OL/OG in the first round. Preferably Robinson, but I'd be good with Lamp or Bolles.
It's quite possible he becomes the third-most productive receiver for this team.
I'm assuming the Giants must have had some positive progress up to this point with JPP.
However, I'm wondering if perhaps Giants are going to let Hankins test free agency and are willing to let him go.
Serviceable signing. Name of the game is get Beckham into single coverage. This will help, but WR still a big need which they'll no doubt take into draft day.
Truly great player in his prime though. Among the strongest WRs in modern NFL history.
Quote:
in his career Marshall had some hiccups but for a guy with diagnosed mental illness what exactly has he done wrong in recent history? Where is the "bad in the lockerroom" stuff from? I can't recall the last time we heard anything "bad" about him. The Jets were a dumpster fire with horrendous QB play which would be the perfect situation for a "bad" egg to lash out and he didn't.
I've echoed the same. Good post..😎
You find out the character of an individual when things are
going badly, NOT when things are going well.
It's easy for chemistry in the locker room, when things
are going smoothly or well. Apparently you haven't followed
his entire career very closely, if you can only point out
the Jets situation last season. We'll see how he acts
with the Giants, I wouldn't have done it.
That is what they can afford, so...
I want a OL/OG in the first round. Preferably Robinson, but I'd be good with Lamp or Bolles.
I seem to like Adams a lot more than most people on BBI do. I think pairing a complimentary TE (Engram, Everett, etc.) with him would be just fine.