Giants express interest in OT Menelik Watson

my friend is a die hard raider fan. he loves watson and the raiders are trying to keep him. his issues r health. not talent. strictly a right tackle. good strong run blocker ok in pass protection. if healthy im for this move

Not every signing needs to be a superstar to help improve the team.

In comment 13387594 The_Taxman said:

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This is the definition of dumpster diving. Reese and co continue to show how abysmal they are when it comes to even scouting o-line talent if they truly even consider talking to Watson, nevermind sign him. I wouldn't even want Watson as a backup. I understand there's no one left,but like someone else mentioned above, I'd rather sign Mangold to play Guard. Or even give Pasztor a shot if the money isn't overboard. Bringing Watson in is a waste of time.

I don't think Reese is abysmal at scouting O-Line Talent. I just think he doesn't understand the value of a really good o-line. He continuously lets it whither until everyone is screaming about it then he makes these half hearted moves to beef it up with average players. And when it gets so bad he has to spend a first round draft choice on the o-line he won't trade up for the best and settles for whoever falls to him like in the case of Flowers.

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In comment 13387594 The_Taxman said: Quote: This is the definition of dumpster diving. Reese and co continue to show how abysmal they are when it comes to even scouting o-line talent if they truly even consider talking to Watson, nevermind sign him. I wouldn't even want Watson as a backup. I understand there's no one left,but like someone else mentioned above, I'd rather sign Mangold to play Guard. Or even give Pasztor a shot if the money isn't overboard. Bringing Watson in is a waste of time. I don't think Reese is abysmal at scouting O-Line Talent. I just think he doesn't understand the value of a really good o-line. He continuously lets it whither until everyone is screaming about it then he makes these half hearted moves to beef it up with average players. And when it gets so bad he has to spend a first round draft choice on the o-line he won't trade up for the best and settles for whoever falls to him like in the case of Flowers.

Flowers didn't fall, he was taken 9th overall. If anything, one could argue Jerry reached...

In comment 13387683 djm said:

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Newhouse plays the majority of games but isn't very good. He was signed to be a backup. But he plays a lot. Watson has more ability but can't stay on the field. In what way is he anything like Newhouse? Could be worthless. Could be something. Probably cheap. Can't hurt.

they're the same in that neither one projects as an actual solution based on the sum of their careers to this point. The people here who knew Marshall Newhouse from his playing career in GB lamented hearing the Giants were interested at the time. One isn't good, the other never plays.

I think it's a combination of both poor scouting, letting the line deteriorate to the point we have to make desperate moves, and flat out poor personnel decisions. It looks worse because it leaves our aging and immobile franchise QB out to dry. It just seems like Reese values only the DE, WR, and CB positions. The rest of the positions he neglects to the point it becomes laughable.

Two years in a row with the same crappy OL and this is what your looking at as the possible missing link. Wow

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In comment 13387675 The_Taxman said: Quote: I'm not going to get into credentials with you. In other words, Rory is probably right. LOL...

haha

In comment 13387803 Beer Man said:

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Two years in a row with the same crappy OL and this is what your looking at as the possible missing link. Wow

You're right Giants should have spent 36 million on a 35 yr old right tackle to play left tackle

Or...

You're right Giants should have spent 55 million on a often injure LT who would only play half the season if lucky as the starting LT.

Guess who would play LT for the other half. cmon guess

we don't have the money to re-sign Jerry and Newhouse, which is pretty sad.

That said, I can see Reese bringing both back and drafting a OL in the first 3 rounds.

we don't have the money to re-sign Jerry and Newhouse, which is pretty sad.

That said, I can see Reese bringing both back and drafting a OL in the first 3 rounds.

Jerry Reese wasn't heavily interested in Jake Conklin. He was the pick Apple was next option

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In comment 13387803 Beer Man said: Quote: Two years in a row with the same crappy OL and this is what your looking at as the possible missing link. Wow You're right Giants should have spent 36 million on a 35 yr old right tackle to play left tackle Or... You're right Giants should have spent 55 million on a often injure LT who would only play half the season if lucky as the starting LT. Guess who would play LT for the other half. cmon guess

You are a moron. Whitworth is a LT and a top 5 one,at that. He's not a RT playing LT you idiot. Even at 35 he's still one of the best LTs in the game. I don't get some fans who use money as an excuse. They'd rather have a shitty player or a lesser player to save money. Whitworth would be our best OL by far. Even if that 3rd year of the deal he lost it, it still would've been worth the 1st 2 years of him at LT.

the Denver Broncos sign Ron Leary.. Good teams focus on their Olines, unfortunately its not very important for the Giants. Smh..

In comment 13387881 prdave73 said:

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the Denver Broncos sign Ron Leary.. Good teams focus on their Olines, unfortunately its not very important for the Giants. Smh..

You realize 3/5 of the line was a 1st or 2nd round pick by the Giants, right? I mean there's stupid fucking commends and there's stupid fucking comments.

Some of the comments on here are just dreadful.

The Giants have two OL positions to address - RG and RT; or possibly RG and LT if Flowers moves to RT.

Look, John Jerry had a decent year. An upgrade would be great. But you could do a lot worse than Jerry.

So really the Giants could use from help at RT/LT. They only need one signing to improve the line, assuming they bring Jerry back. Or, possibly one draft pick.

The contracts we've seen for tackles have been out of the Giants range. They don't have the cap this year.

The doom-and-gloom is uncalled for.

Give it a rest.

In comment 13387710 jtgiants said:

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my friend is a die hard raider fan. he loves watson and the raiders are trying to keep him. his issues r health. not talent. strictly a right tackle. good strong run blocker ok in pass protection. if healthy im for this move

Hey buddy, howya doin'?

is garbage...everyone here can talk about overpaying for whitworth, but to answer the question....yes i would have. make room, cut JT thomas, ask eli to take a cut, etc. there are a million ways to make things work. whitworth EASILY would have been our best lineman. and it potentially improves two oline positions. eli has 2-3 years max...we need to win NOW. with flowers at LT, i dont think we have a chance. im not a pessimist as I still believe we are going to be good, but that OL will be the death of us. Wish they would have made a move on whitworth. we probably could have gotten him for slighly less if you consider our chance to win vs the rams lol

good sir. happy w marshall. needed big wr on the outside. i like ellison. watsons not perfect in any way but were going to need to roll the dice to some extent on the o line

and Watson are what's left. Injury riddled and/or underachievers. Since Beachum is just the former, I'd prefer him, but I'm sure he has other suitors. Not really interested in Watson.

who was very popular around here during the draft. I was a big fan and was hoping he would fall to the Giants in the 2nd round that year.

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