If he comes close to vet min, I'm all for it. Let's face it, Eli goes down and the season goes with him, might as well not dump good cap resources into a backup QB.
i agree...he is probably an insanely cheap option as a backup and thats what we SHOULD get. if eli goes down our season is over anyways. i rather sign someone cheap like geno who is also pretty young so you never know maybe he gets it together, but the real reason i like it is cap savings
If he comes close to vet min, I'm all for it. Let's face it, Eli goes down and the season goes with him, might as well not dump good cap resources into a backup QB.
Again, that depends on how long Eli is out. If he's out for a chunk of the season, sure, the backup isn't likely to lead us to the SB. But what if he's out for 3-4 games? You want a backup who can get you a win or 2. Maybe Geno's that guy, but I don't think so. Pass.
Maybe the Giants think they need someone for the defense to punch
that mess called the Jets. Fresh start,stable environment,signed on the cheap. What's not to like. You want Josh Johnson back? Hopefully still able to draft a young QB as #3 & the future!
If he comes close to vet min, I'm all for it. Let's face it, Eli goes down and the season goes with him, might as well not dump good cap resources into a backup QB.
Again, that depends on how long Eli is out. If he's out for a chunk of the season, sure, the backup isn't likely to lead us to the SB. But what if he's out for 3-4 games? You want a backup who can get you a win or 2. Maybe Geno's that guy, but I don't think so. Pass.
That's the thing - you think the league is OL starved, try signing a halfway decent QB.
For a QB to go .500 in Eli's place, he'd have to be better than halfway decent, and that would command a lot of money (see Osweiler, Brock and Glennon, Mike).
that mess called the Jets. Fresh start,stable environment,signed on the cheap. What's not to like. You want Josh Johnson back? Hopefully still able to draft a young QB as #3 & the future!
If Josh Johnson is cheaper, yes. Especially if they're going to draft a QB that will merit a roster spot too.
Like I said above, Eli's contract + non vet min back-up + plus R1 to R4 draft pick is too many resources.
You're getting as the backup QB? Earl Morrel, Frank Reich, Gary Kubiak? Geno's no starter but he's a secondary Mr round pick with a lot of NFL playing time. That's pretty much all you can ask for as your backup.
hasn't thrown a meaningful pass in almost 6 years.
Obviously the coaching staff and FO know far more than us, but I feel like option #2 being Josh Johnson gives the Giants only slightly better chances to win than option #2 being me; a 6' 210 pound men's league hockey player who hasn't thrown a meaningful pass in 30 years.
This meeting probably has something to do with Marshall
You're getting as the backup QB? Earl Morrel, Frank Reich, Gary Kubiak? Geno's no starter but he's a secondary Mr round pick with a lot of NFL playing time. That's pretty much all you can ask for as your backup.
He is an inaccurate limited turnover mahine who takes sacks. He is the worst of two worlds - a developmental negative play guy. Him becoming a game manager might be a stretch.
Most backups suck too but there we guys who could probably could dink and dunk without taking multiple negative plays every game.
with Geno at QB when he was a rookie. The idea that our season has to be over if Eli goes down for more than 1-2 games is no way to think. We have a great defense. Hold the other team to 10 points, Geno or whomever throws a couple of good passes to OBJ (or Marshall) and voila you have a win. Geno is capable of that. Moreso than say Nassib was.
Embarrassing that we're even bringing him in for a visit
If he comes close to vet min, I'm all for it. Let's face it, Eli goes down and the season goes with him, might as well not dump good cap resources into a backup QB.
I agree.
RE: Embarrassing that we're even bringing him in for a visit
As horrible as Nassib and Johnson are, I'd rather have either. Or even give Wenning the job. Anyone but this failure.
Nassib was awful..Johnson probably even worse. Smith has flaws, but he's more experienced than either of the two, in that Johnson hasn't thrown a pass in what, 6 years?
Here Geno has no delusions of even being in the running as the starter. This team has several needs to fill that will actually play and likely start. That is where you spend the money, not on a backup QB when your starter is Eli.
Let the cries of doom begin.
i agree...he is probably an insanely cheap option as a backup and thats what we SHOULD get. if eli goes down our season is over anyways. i rather sign someone cheap like geno who is also pretty young so you never know maybe he gets it together, but the real reason i like it is cap savings
Too many resources for one position.
Rosenfels
Sorgi
Freeman
Guy who got slugged in the mouth and missed a season.
Rosenfels
Sorgi
Freeman
Guy who got slugged in the mouth and missed a season.
In fairness, wasn't his jaw shattered?
Rosenfels
Sorgi
Freeman
Guy who got slugged in the mouth and missed a season.
Rosenfels wasn't that bad, even though they overpaid for him.
Carr was worse, especially when he left briefly and got exposed in SFO and came running back to his safe clipboard space.
Again, that depends on how long Eli is out. If he's out for a chunk of the season, sure, the backup isn't likely to lead us to the SB. But what if he's out for 3-4 games? You want a backup who can get you a win or 2. Maybe Geno's that guy, but I don't think so. Pass.
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If he comes close to vet min, I'm all for it. Let's face it, Eli goes down and the season goes with him, might as well not dump good cap resources into a backup QB.
Again, that depends on how long Eli is out. If he's out for a chunk of the season, sure, the backup isn't likely to lead us to the SB. But what if he's out for 3-4 games? You want a backup who can get you a win or 2. Maybe Geno's that guy, but I don't think so. Pass.
That's the thing - you think the league is OL starved, try signing a halfway decent QB.
For a QB to go .500 in Eli's place, he'd have to be better than halfway decent, and that would command a lot of money (see Osweiler, Brock and Glennon, Mike).
Exactly. Who do people think they're going to get?
He is terrible and not a player that I would want as a back up.
He is like Cutler really good tools but not a good player.
Even the Jets do not want him and their need is significantly greater than the Giants.
If Eli ever got hurt there is no way I would want Geno leading the team down the field. He is a turnover waiting to happen.
If Josh Johnson is cheaper, yes. Especially if they're going to draft a QB that will merit a roster spot too.
Like I said above, Eli's contract + non vet min back-up + plus R1 to R4 draft pick is too many resources.
Money
Obviously the coaching staff and FO know far more than us, but I feel like option #2 being Josh Johnson gives the Giants only slightly better chances to win than option #2 being me; a 6' 210 pound men's league hockey player who hasn't thrown a meaningful pass in 30 years.
Now there's a haircut you can set your watch to.
Rosenfels
Sorgi
Freeman
Guy who got slugged in the mouth and missed a season.
Lorenzen was illustrious
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Most backups suck too but there we guys who could probably could dink and dunk without taking multiple negative plays every game.
Nassib was awful..Johnson probably even worse. Smith has flaws, but he's more experienced than either of the two, in that Johnson hasn't thrown a pass in what, 6 years?