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If you were going to mold two perfect book end tackles...

Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/11/2017 11:49 pm
They would physically look like Ereck Flowers and D.J. Fluker.

6-5, legit 340 pounds (not fat), strong as mules, good athletes.

Funny how things don't seem to add up.
They would be 23 and 25 years old  
Reale01 : 3/11/2017 11:50 pm : link
Also they would each have a mean streak
No offense  
robbieballs2003 : 3/12/2017 12:05 am : link
But I would rather win games than beauty contests. We are all happy that Fluker was signed but this honeymoon can end very abruptly if they play like their past indicates. I understand the optimism but we need to see production.
Funny how looks are more than skin deep  
Hammer : 3/12/2017 12:10 am : link
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Eli could play into his 40's  
lono801 : 3/12/2017 12:21 am : link
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maybe in the 90s-early 2000s  
SHO'NUFF : 3/12/2017 12:26 am : link
but edge rushers today are not only big, they're fast.
Book end Tackles....  
lono801 : 3/12/2017 12:32 am : link
DD and BMac.....

Been a dream since.......


Well they look the part  
Reale01 : 3/12/2017 12:37 am : link
Getting off the bus. Maybe they will mature. We will hope for the best.
Eagles had them for years  
chopperhatch : 3/12/2017 12:40 am : link
In Tra Thomas and Jon Runyan. Jags before that had Searcy and Boselli. Titans had a nice combo with Hopkins and the other guy.

Would be nice if something clocked with Flowers and Fluker became a solid RT with the new change of scenery. But at this point, Im just looking for decent pass pro and to be able to get some push in the run game.
absolutely...  
Dan in the Springs : 3/12/2017 12:47 am : link
Pressure is on Solaris, imo, because Reese has given him an upgrade in raw talent.

This doesn't solve the problem though, since it is unlikely this young talented OL can be kept for very long.
so now Flowers and Fluker are perfect bookend tackles  
micky : 3/12/2017 12:51 am : link
ok
Not talent wise  
Giantfootball025 : 3/12/2017 12:53 am : link
just size and built wise. The thing is you can't teach the physical attributes they each have. It comes down to how hard they want to work on their craft now. Which is something you can coach up.
The issue is  
WillVAB : 3/12/2017 12:57 am : link
there are guys who check the boxes but simply just aren't good football players. Let's hope that's not the case here.
You dont  
huygens20 : 3/12/2017 3:28 am : link
draft tackles to run block. That's the lesson people need to learn
RE: maybe in the 90s-early 2000s  
huygens20 : 3/12/2017 3:30 am : link
In comment 13389895 SHO'NUFF said:
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but edge rushers today are not only big, they're fast.


Edge rushers have gotten smaller. Speed kills 340lb dudes who can't move their feet
Maybe the solution is lose 20lbs  
George from PA : 3/12/2017 6:04 am : link
320lbers might be lighter on their feet?

We know they are strong massive men with extremely long arms....

Technical issues are their problem..... They never had to learn the small stuff.....As they had the tools to dominate in college.

Solari, it's up to you.
Look  
mdthedream : 3/12/2017 8:42 am : link
The Oline issue was also Eli and the running game fault. No TE or Fullback that could block. Really one stud Wr and no big WR on the outside. The Giants have addressed all these issues. Now are we done? I am not sure we could add a veteran RB to pound the ball like Murray or Williams at a cheap price to go with Perkins. I believe we will also be better with playaction passes.
Imagine a 2 TE set with these guys at Tackle  
Rjanyg : 3/12/2017 8:42 am : link
If McAdoo runs the ball a little more it will take the pressure off of the O line.

I like the value we got in Fluker, Ellison and Marshall.
RE: so now Flowers and Fluker are perfect bookend tackles  
mfsd : 3/12/2017 9:07 am : link
In comment 13389907 micky said:
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ok


Actually that's not what he said, but continue
RE: Imagine a 2 TE set with these guys at Tackle  
Carson53 : 3/12/2017 10:47 am : link
In comment 13389950 Rjanyg said:
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If McAdoo runs the ball a little more it will take the pressure off of the O line.

I like the value we got in Fluker, Ellison and Marshall.


They got 'value' in Ellison, 4/18, with 8 mill GTD??
RE: No offense  
Rory : 3/12/2017 10:59 am : link
In comment 13389889 robbieballs2003 said:
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But I would rather win games than beauty contests. We are all happy that Fluker was signed but this honeymoon can end very abruptly if they play like their past indicates. I understand the optimism but we need to see production.


Robbie, I think at age 23 & 25 there is more justification then not to expect growth and have optimism. Especially Flowers, also you have to assume Solari was consulted prior to Fluker's signing.
RE: so now Flowers and Fluker are perfect bookend tackles  
Rory : 3/12/2017 11:00 am : link
In comment 13389907 micky said:
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ok


re-read erics post and then punch yourself in the face
And both of them drafted in the top twelve of all draftees  
Reese's Pieces : 3/12/2017 12:11 pm : link
in the entire college class for that year.

What a line that would be!
There were serious concerns about Fluker's pass-blocking at Alabama.  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/12/2017 7:16 pm : link
While Flowers had technique issues at Miami that clouded his prospects at left tackle, Fluker's problems were of a different magnitude, and cast doubt on whether he could play outside at all. Also, those Crimson Tide teams - with Ingram, Richardson, Lacy, and Yeldon running behind ridiculous lines- mostly steamrolled opponents on the ground. Fluker seldom faced an all-out pass rush; and when he did, the results were decidedly mixed.

There's little mystery to Fluker's struggles as an NFL tackle, no matter how much he looks the part. The Chargers gambled that they could coach him up, and it didn't work out. The Giant took a similar chance with Flowers, though a somewhat less extreme one. The final verdict there is pending.
Fluker has played OG for the best part of 2015...  
Torrag : 3/13/2017 7:24 am : link
...and all of 2016. Doesn't look like he has the feet to play even RT.
At the very least  
JonC : 3/13/2017 7:28 am : link
I think we've got a RT in Flowers and a RG in Fluker, provided he earns an extension. These are young dudes, only 22 and 26, learning on the fly.

If we somehow luck into a LT early in the draft (without forcing the pick), you've got something promising on paper.
I don't see a LT in Round 1...  
Torrag : 3/13/2017 7:36 am : link
...at least not one I'd draft with an expectation he could play well as a rookie. So yeah that would be forcing the pick. but maybe the Giants see it different. Personally I think they forced both the Flowers and Pugh picks.
Agree across the board  
JonC : 3/13/2017 7:37 am : link
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RE: I don't see a LT in Round 1...  
Klaatu : 3/13/2017 8:12 am : link
In comment 13390861 Torrag said:
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...at least not one I'd draft with an expectation he could play well as a rookie. So yeah that would be forcing the pick. but maybe the Giants see it different. Personally I think they forced both the Flowers and Pugh picks.


Would it really surprise you if the Giants "forced" another OL pick in the 1st round?

I hope they don't, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did.
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