The FA moves we've made so far should help the running game next season but we need another back. I like Kamara from Tennessee any chance he's there in the 2nd?
L Murray from the Raiders might work, seems like RBs are not in demand.
Conner in the 4th or 5th. Him and Perkins would be a nice 1-2 punch, kind of like how we used to mix up Bradshaw and Jacobs. Please stay away from Eddie Lacy in FA.
Use the first few rounds to draft. T, TE, and a DT (if we don't somehow retain Hankins) in no particular order.
I'm OK with hanging on to Vereen, if they think he'll recover fully from last year's injuries - but I also would be OK with cutting him as he has a relatively high cap #. They can probably find a cheap vet in this market, which is really down for RB's so far, and invest a later round (3 or after) pick in what is supposed to be a solid, deep draft class.
But I'd take Mixon and in the third. I know what he did and I know how wrong it is. I believe he is sincere in wishing it never happened. I believe if he had it to do over it will not happen again. I think he is truly remorseful. I'm willing to give him a second chance.
thats something I would look for in OL as well, quick get off
In the first and S. Perrine in the 3rd or 4th and I would cut Vereen and Darkwa.....
Can anybody tell me why this Perinne kid is not a first or second rounder all I see is nobody can tackle this guy I love him looks like the second coming of Earl Campbell what am I missing ?
Perrine looks like a lower, thicker version of Andre Williams.
When I watch his highlights, all I see is huge holes and players trying to arm tackle him when he has a head of steam.
I see no similarities between Andre and Perine other than that they have a somewhat similar build. Andre has terrible balance, tends to stop on first contact, has very poor vision, and no power in short yardage. Perine is the opposite in every case. Andre has hands of stone and Perine is a good receiver.
The one asset Andre does have is pretty good speed, which is likely better than Perine's. But since Andre is indecisive at the P.O.A., and tends to stop at first contact, you'll never know this unless he gets an open field to run through.
see the Gmen taking a RB in the early rounds if at all. I think they need to focus entirely on their blocking. O-line, TE, receivers, maybe a FB and not freak out over RB. A mediocre RB can run through holes if the blockers can make sustain their blocks longer. I couldn't have seen ANY RB in the league running well with last years blocking. I think obsessing over a great RB is the wrong place to be looking!
RE: I've seen Foreman play a lot, he's a truck back there
I haven't watched very much, but developed my opinion based upon what I did watch. I subsequently read NFL.Com's statement -
"Usually opts for finesse over power despite his size. Needs to become more decisive and aggressive between the tackles. Inconsistent acceleration into contact. Waits to churn feet until after blow has landed."
And that's pretty much what I saw. The first thing the popped into my head when watching him was he looked a whole lot the way Ron Dayne did when he was playing in school.We'll see if he has better NFL career than Ron, but I don't want to be the club that finds out.
He showed skills with his PT this year. He can do many things including catch and would work well with Perkins.
He's visiting Atlanta today but he would be a better fit here. In Atl he's RB3. He could be RB1a with Giants. It wouldn't cost much. A lot less than Murray from Oakland and Burkhead is a better pass catcher.
He could fill the roles of Vereen and Jennings. Giants should sign him.
I haven't watched very much, but developed my opinion based upon what I did watch. I subsequently read NFL.Com's statement -
"Usually opts for finesse over power despite his size. Needs to become more decisive and aggressive between the tackles. Inconsistent acceleration into contact. Waits to churn feet until after blow has landed."
And that's pretty much what I saw. The first thing the popped into my head when watching him was he looked a whole lot the way Ron Dayne did when he was playing in school.We'll see if he has better NFL career than Ron, but I don't want to be the club that finds out.
We'll have to disagree then. The guy has good speed and runs really strong. He gets lots of yards after contact. The reports I've read on him state this too. In fact Fox Sports had him as the #4 back and lauded his physical running. This matches what I saw game in and out. He was All American and the Doak Walker winner.
Conner in the 4th or 5th. Him and Perkins would be a nice 1-2 punch, kind of like how we used to mix up Bradshaw and Jacobs. Please stay away from Eddie Lacy in FA.
Use the first few rounds to draft. T, TE, and a DT (if we don't somehow retain Hankins) in no particular order.
That's my guy too, in the 4th or 5th.
The kid from Oklahoma, has had some durability issues, Perrine?
He showed skills with his PT this year. He can do many things including catch and would work well with Perkins.
He's visiting Atlanta today but he would be a better fit here. In Atl he's RB3. He could be RB1a with Giants. It wouldn't cost much. A lot less than Murray from Oakland and Burkhead is a better pass catcher.
He could fill the roles of Vereen and Jennings. Giants should sign him.
De'Veon lacks ideal size and speed. He's not a home run hitter by any stretch. But he can get the tough yards and has played well in big games. Worth a 7th round pick or UDFA pick-up.
But I'd take Mixon and in the third. I know what he did and I know how wrong it is. I believe he is sincere in wishing it never happened. I believe if he had it to do over it will not happen again. I think he is truly remorseful. I'm willing to give him a second chance.
the Giants always look for squeaky clean players with no warts on them, but I think the Giants should have learned by now that a lot of players come with those warts and if we don't take one some other team will
Along with some of the other later RB's listed after RD 1. But I can't remember a quality 3rd rd choice in a few years (unless you think Bromley is, or D. Thompson , SS will be). I'd go as high as 3rd for James Conner. We need another RB badly.
Not sold on Perine. Wouldn't hate the pick though.
Rather go other positions in the first three. But, an early pick at RB would be exciting.
Use the first few rounds to draft. T, TE, and a DT (if we don't somehow retain Hankins) in no particular order.
Tariq Cohen in the 6th. Sleeper
Yea i am prob in the minority and I know its a good RB class, but id like a FA RB like AP, blount or murray.
That gives more flexibility, could go LB, TE, OL, QB, CB, DE
and the usual caveat-pass protects
in other words, to integrate and get some play action run first back on the menu
and the usual caveat-pass protects
in other words, to integrate and get some play action run first back on the menu
I've really enjoyed reading your ideas lately. They are thought provoking in a positive way to say the least.
He's my favorite. I just don't think they'd draft him. He looks like a game changer though if the off the field checks out.
Can anybody tell me why this Perinne kid is not a first or second rounder all I see is nobody can tackle this guy I love him looks like the second coming of Earl Campbell what am I missing ?
Day 1
Dalvin Cook, Christian McCaffrey
Day 2
Alvin Kamara, Curtis Samuel
Marlon Mack, Jeremy McNichols, Brian Hill
Day 3
Aaron Jones, Donnel Pumphrey
Stanley Williams, TJ Logan
Tarik Cohen, Joe Williams, De'Angelo Henderson
Have to see how Kamara and Mack do on their Pro Day. They did not run fast at the combine but they are athletic.
Donta Foreman, University of Texas
6'1", 250
2028 yards this year on 323 carries
15 TDs, 6.3 yds per carry
I see no similarities between Andre and Perine other than that they have a somewhat similar build. Andre has terrible balance, tends to stop on first contact, has very poor vision, and no power in short yardage. Perine is the opposite in every case. Andre has hands of stone and Perine is a good receiver.
The one asset Andre does have is pretty good speed, which is likely better than Perine's. But since Andre is indecisive at the P.O.A., and tends to stop at first contact, you'll never know this unless he gets an open field to run through.
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Any Brandon Jacobs or "Brandon Jacobs Light" type RBs?
Donta Foreman, University of Texas
6'1", 250
2028 yards this year on 323 carries
15 TDs, 6.3 yds per carry
Foreman is a lesser Ron Dayne.
I haven't watched very much, but developed my opinion based upon what I did watch. I subsequently read NFL.Com's statement -
"Usually opts for finesse over power despite his size. Needs to become more decisive and aggressive between the tackles. Inconsistent acceleration into contact. Waits to churn feet until after blow has landed."
And that's pretty much what I saw. The first thing the popped into my head when watching him was he looked a whole lot the way Ron Dayne did when he was playing in school.We'll see if he has better NFL career than Ron, but I don't want to be the club that finds out.
He's visiting Atlanta today but he would be a better fit here. In Atl he's RB3. He could be RB1a with Giants. It wouldn't cost much. A lot less than Murray from Oakland and Burkhead is a better pass catcher.
He could fill the roles of Vereen and Jennings. Giants should sign him.
Brian Hill
Samaje Perine
Kareem Hunt
De'Veon Smith
James Connor
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He is nothing like Dayne.
I haven't watched very much, but developed my opinion based upon what I did watch. I subsequently read NFL.Com's statement -
"Usually opts for finesse over power despite his size. Needs to become more decisive and aggressive between the tackles. Inconsistent acceleration into contact. Waits to churn feet until after blow has landed."
And that's pretty much what I saw. The first thing the popped into my head when watching him was he looked a whole lot the way Ron Dayne did when he was playing in school.We'll see if he has better NFL career than Ron, but I don't want to be the club that finds out.
We'll have to disagree then. The guy has good speed and runs really strong. He gets lots of yards after contact. The reports I've read on him state this too. In fact Fox Sports had him as the #4 back and lauded his physical running. This matches what I saw game in and out. He was All American and the Doak Walker winner.
Jones?
Use the first few rounds to draft. T, TE, and a DT (if we don't somehow retain Hankins) in no particular order.
That's my guy too, in the 4th or 5th.
The kid from Oklahoma, has had some durability issues, Perrine?
He's visiting Atlanta today but he would be a better fit here. In Atl he's RB3. He could be RB1a with Giants. It wouldn't cost much. A lot less than Murray from Oakland and Burkhead is a better pass catcher.
He could fill the roles of Vereen and Jennings. Giants should sign him.
He is SLOW!
And draft a RB.
Perkins, Charles/Johnson, Darkwa and draft pick
the Giants always look for squeaky clean players with no warts on them, but I think the Giants should have learned by now that a lot of players come with those warts and if we don't take one some other team will