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NFT: The Walking Dead

AcidTest : 3/12/2017 9:31 pm
Somebody from the Kingdom was just shot by the Saviors.
Joey in VA : 3/12/2017 9:38 pm : link
fkap : 3/12/2017 9:39 pm : link
as Daddy said last week, someone had to die to get the ball rolling.
The show has gone downhill  
kelsto811 : 3/12/2017 10:10 pm : link
No doubt about it. But I just had a discussion with the wife and kid of who we thought they would have kill Negan whenever that time comes. Lots of options but I think Carl would be the coolest
The show has lost me....  
Reb8thVA : 3/12/2017 10:30 pm : link
The killing of Benjamin seemed so unnecessary and gratuitous. The show is painfully slow and I am tired of being dicked around by the writers who seem increasingly focused on impressing themselves.
part of the problem  
fkap : 3/12/2017 10:54 pm : link
regarding being slow is that the show sets a long term arc where the endpoint is obvious (currently it's the showdown with the saviours) and then can't make the journey there very interesting. It could be the technique of making each episode about a limited group instead of interweaving several storylines at once. in the end, we know (or just short of knowing) there's going to be a showdown and it seems a snoozefest waiting for it.
it's a storytelling problem  
RasputinPrime : 3/13/2017 3:21 am : link
because they have plenty of opportunity to keep the slow burn intense but continually choose not to.

This is like The Farm 2.0
Morgan just needs to die  
SHO'NUFF : 3/13/2017 6:35 am : link
so sick of his shit.
After watching the first half of the year in the Fall  
giantsfaninphilly : 3/13/2017 9:26 am : link
I've had no interest in watching it since the break. To the point where I cancelled it on my DVR and deleted what was there. None of the characters or storyline is the least bit compelling anymore. IMO the show's completely tanked.
Didn't think it was too bad  
Giants in 07 : 3/13/2017 9:57 am : link
The Morgan storyline will never not be ridiculous to me
what others said  
UConn4523 : 3/13/2017 10:24 am : link
the end is predictable and making Morgan abstain from killing just to know that he'd be the key to get Rick what he needs by killing again is lame. There are absolutely no curveballs thrown on this show.
My interest is definitely waning  
Bramton1 : 3/13/2017 11:14 am : link
I had to binge watch the last four episodes of the first half because I couldn't be motivated to sit down and watch regularly. And I haven't watched any of this half yet. Maybe if we get a snow day on Tuesday...

The problem with the show is simple, in my opinion. The show's episode count needs to be cut. No more than 10 episodes in a season. They have these moments they are building toward, but there are so many episodes, they need a bunch of fluff in order to slow down the storyline. A 10-episode season would make the storytelling far more tighter and make the writers actually push the story along.
The writers seem to believe  
Mike from Ohio : 3/13/2017 1:13 pm : link
that the only way the ultimate show down will be worth it is if the viewer understands the personal struggles and motivation of each and every character. Each week we need to explore the mental state of one or two more characters and how this journey impacts them.

These characters are not as interesting or complex as the writers seem to believe they are. Tell the story and let the actors convey what the characters are experiencing. Unless of course it is blubbering Rick, in which case just run a Star Wars type written scroll at the beginning so we don't have to watch him try to seem deep.
Carol is the strogest character in this show and not Rick  
32_Razor : 3/13/2017 1:40 pm : link
Carol brings the four horsemen of the Apocalypse wherever she goes.
I had the show on last night  
ron mexico : 3/13/2017 1:42 pm : link
but was barely paying attention. You knew nothing significant was going to happen.
Completely different type of show but  
Rob in Rockaway : 3/13/2017 3:30 pm : link
you only have a to watch a little of Taboo to see what a difference great acting and writing has on these series. So far superior it's nuts. And I am a fan of TWD since day 1, have never missed an episode.
Seems like every friggin' scene  
Don Draper : 3/13/2017 4:23 pm : link
is a softly spoken, maudlin, monologue backed by dramatic music. Because people never interrupt, or speak during a pause, or raise their voices in stressful situations...

Ben's death was blatantly telegraphed; he hugged the kid (his little bro?) as he departed The Kingdom, and my Redshirt Radar went wild. Plus he'd played the wide-eyed innocent in the scene with Carol and she so callously brushed him off. They might as well have put a CGI skull & crossbones icon over his head!

While I'm on the topic of Star Trek: What's with the ridiculous speech patterns of The Junkyard Hillbillies? I feel like I'm watching the TOS episode "Miri" -- ""Bonk! Bonk! On the head!"

But I'll keep watching...
Has there ever been a show people criticize  
Mike from Ohio : 3/13/2017 4:59 pm : link
yet keep watching as much as WD? And I put myself in that category. Each week I watch it, am frustrated by another stupid episode, and ask myself why I keep watching. But then Sunday rolls around, and there I am tuning in.

I feel like this needs to be an MST3K type of thing where a bunch of people in the same boat can get together and mock it for real enjoyment.
one thing for certain  
mdc1 : 3/13/2017 6:30 pm : link
they seem to be telegraphing and pointing out the "goners". Reasonably easy to see.
RE: The show has lost me....  
barens : 3/13/2017 8:04 pm : link
In comment 13390805 Reb8thVA said:
The killing of Benjamin seemed so unnecessary and gratuitous. The show is painfully slow and I am tired of being dicked around by the writers who seem increasingly focused on impressing themselves.

Not only that, but incredibly predictable. I knew within 1 minute of the show who was going to bite the dust. Anytime some unknown gets additional screen time, you know their time is up. The whole show reminds me of Lost with the way they set things up, and it's gotten to the point where it's all just tedious.

After watching the show Legion, it's amazing how much better their story is told.
The problem with WD seems to me  
Mike from Ohio : 3/14/2017 9:29 am : link
to be that the writers have stopped trying to tell the original story about a pack of survivors in a world with no rules or structure, and decided each episode needs to explore the personal pain of another individual. It's a little late to be focusing on character development in Season 7.

Like most shows, it's TV run has outlasted what it has to say. It's time to wrap it up.
RE: The problem with WD seems to me  
giantsfaninphilly : 3/14/2017 10:00 am : link
In comment 13392449 Mike from Ohio said:

Like most shows, it's TV run has outlasted what it has to say. It's time to wrap it up.

This is why I like the British tendency to make much shorter series. In the US, they tend to milk the most popular shows for whatever the're worth, and then by the end, the quality is far lower than what it was at the beginning. I loved the WD for about the first 3 years, and I've given up on it altogether now.
RE: The problem with WD seems to me  
AnnapolisMike : 3/14/2017 10:35 am : link
In comment 13392449 Mike from Ohio said:

Like most shows, it's TV run has outlasted what it has to say. It's time to wrap it up.

This should be what happens. But this is AMC's only real thing they have to offer. Even with collapsing ratings it is still better than anything else they have to offer. They will milk it until the bitter end.

what is fascinating about the current season  
mdc1 : 3/14/2017 12:48 pm : link
symbiotic relationship of fear and intimidation but we do not want to kill you because we need you. Just find some worthless fool in the bunch as the scapegoat and use them as an example. This is beyond the Negan cult development program he has running.
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