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NFL Free Agency Discussion - Monday 03/13/17

Saos1n : 3/13/2017 10:40 am
Discuss
Not much to discuss  
superspynyg : 3/13/2017 10:43 am : link
are there any visits planned for today?
Please get Hankins done, even for 1 year  
Big Blue '56 : 3/13/2017 10:44 am : link
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HANKINS!!!  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/13/2017 10:52 am : link
ONE YEAR!!!
RE: HANKINS!!!  
Saos1n : 3/13/2017 10:53 am : link
In comment 13391086 Pete from Woodstock said:
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ONE YEAR!!!


This seems to make the most sense for both sides...
CB Morris Claiborne to Baltimore  
Anakim : 3/13/2017 10:55 am : link
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DT and RT  
JonC : 3/13/2017 10:58 am : link
dumpster dives.
Keenan Robinson  
mphbullet36 : 3/13/2017 11:00 am : link
remains the guy I want brought back at all costs. Having a coverage linebacker in todays game is vital.
I think Hankins  
MotownGIANTS : 3/13/2017 11:01 am : link
is done either with a contingency plan JPP 1 yr tag and nnumbers that both like if they can get JPP on board with a non FT number ...
RE: CB Morris Claiborne to Baltimore  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/13/2017 11:13 am : link
In comment 13391093 Anakim said:
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Happy to see this....
RE: CB Morris Claiborne to Baltimore  
BillT : 3/13/2017 11:18 am : link
In comment 13391093 Anakim said:
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Another starter gone (the 4th?) from a bad Cowboys defense. But they never have to pay the price for being over the cap. Right?
Cowboys now paying the price for all the restructured contracts  
Rick in Dallas : 3/13/2017 11:23 am : link
Done in past years.you cannot keep kicking the can down the street without consequences.
Some decent names sticking around  
Chris684 : 3/13/2017 11:25 am : link
longer than I thought they would. A few might be able to help NYG.

Obviously Hankins, if not Bennie Logan.

Rex Burkhead.

If Mangold checks out physically he might be interesting as depth for RG.
Burkhead  
Toth029 : 3/13/2017 11:27 am : link
Is visiting New England.
RE: Keenan Robinson  
GiantTuff1 : 3/13/2017 11:32 am : link
In comment 13391103 mphbullet36 said:
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remains the guy I want brought back at all costs. Having a coverage linebacker in todays game is vital.


I'd like to see this too, not at all costs but his range in the middle of the field I think really attributed to the defense being able to sometimes cover for 7 seconds last year.
Let's get JPP signed  
GiantTuff1 : 3/13/2017 11:33 am : link
comn' Jason, put the ink on the paper and let's get some pieces to this team.
RE: Cowboys now paying the price for all the restructured contracts  
giants#1 : 3/13/2017 11:43 am : link
In comment 13391139 Rick in Dallas said:
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Done in past years.you cannot keep kicking the can down the street without consequences.


Somehow people continually miss this fact. They've been slowly losing starting talent for several years. The depth on that team, especially the D, is ugly.
RE: RE: Cowboys now paying the price for all the restructured contracts  
GiantTuff1 : 3/13/2017 11:49 am : link
In comment 13391178 giants#1 said:
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Done in past years.you cannot keep kicking the can down the street without consequences.



Somehow people continually miss this fact. They've been slowly losing starting talent for several years. The depth on that team, especially the D, is ugly.


I honestly think that if Romo were allowed to play down the stretch last year there's a chance that team would be holding the Lombardi... It's almost a blessing that Dak created such pressure through winning that it painted them into a corner to not pull him out... I think last year was their shot, and this year I'm expecting them to drop back down to Earth.

Strange how things work, but one of the things I'm most excited about is to see how that Cowboys team responds with a season of film on Dak, and a loss of talent... I don't think very well.
^^^  
giants#1 : 3/13/2017 11:50 am : link
maybe, I'm not convinced that D could've stopped ATL or NE.
would be very surprised on a JPP deal  
hitdog42 : 3/13/2017 11:51 am : link
anytime soon. another 1yr option on a very good player and he stays motivated.
What happened to Geno Smith  
NikkiMac : 3/13/2017 11:57 am : link
Wasn't he supposed to visit ?
RE: What happened to Geno Smith  
Giantfootball025 : 3/13/2017 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13391213 NikkiMac said:
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Wasn't he supposed to visit ?


Said it was done and it went great, also that the Giants were a great organization. No deal was signed though obviously.
Hitdog  
Big Rick in FL : 3/13/2017 12:04 pm : link
They aren't worried about losing him after this year?
RE: would be very surprised on a JPP deal  
GiantTuff1 : 3/13/2017 12:06 pm : link
In comment 13391197 hitdog42 said:
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anytime soon. another 1yr option on a very good player and he stays motivated.


Sounds like a shift with JPP where the Giants are willing to let him play out the tag now?

Or are you talking about Hankins. What odds are you placing on Hankins making it back on a 1 year 're-establish value' deal.
no reference to hankins  
hitdog42 : 3/13/2017 12:15 pm : link
referring to JPP
Let JPP play out the tag  
nicky43 : 3/13/2017 12:26 pm : link
to help him in the motivation department and get Hankins a contract!
if JPP signs  
SCGiantsFan : 3/13/2017 12:37 pm : link
we gain breathing space from the cap and we can add a few more pieces...IE Hankins.. we a some what ham strung, via JPP
RE: RE: RE: Cowboys now paying the price for all the restructured contracts  
MotownGIANTS : 3/13/2017 12:41 pm : link
In comment 13391188 GiantTuff1 said:
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Done in past years.you cannot keep kicking the can down the street without consequences.



Somehow people continually miss this fact. They've been slowly losing starting talent for several years. The depth on that team, especially the D, is ugly.



I honestly think that if Romo were allowed to play down the stretch last year there's a chance that team would be holding the Lombardi... It's almost a blessing that Dak created such pressure through winning that it painted them into a corner to not pull him out... I think last year was their shot, and this year I'm expecting them to drop back down to Earth.

Strange how things work, but one of the things I'm most excited about is to see how that Cowboys team responds with a season of film on Dak, and a loss of talent... I don't think very well.



"Strange how things work, but one of the things I'm most excited about is to see how that Cowboys team responds with a season of film on Dak, and a loss of talent... I don't think very well."


Agree 100%
RE: RE: RE: RE: Cowboys now paying the price for all the restructured contracts  
Giantfan in skinland : 3/13/2017 1:00 pm : link
In comment 13391313 MotownGIANTS said:
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Done in past years.you cannot keep kicking the can down the street without consequences.



Somehow people continually miss this fact. They've been slowly losing starting talent for several years. The depth on that team, especially the D, is ugly.



I honestly think that if Romo were allowed to play down the stretch last year there's a chance that team would be holding the Lombardi... It's almost a blessing that Dak created such pressure through winning that it painted them into a corner to not pull him out... I think last year was their shot, and this year I'm expecting them to drop back down to Earth.

Strange how things work, but one of the things I'm most excited about is to see how that Cowboys team responds with a season of film on Dak, and a loss of talent... I don't think very well.




"Strange how things work, but one of the things I'm most excited about is to see how that Cowboys team responds with a season of film on Dak, and a loss of talent... I don't think very well."


Agree 100%


Eh, we'll see. I don't think anything they were doing with him was all that tricky nor do I think teams will suddenly discover the key to beating him. They knew it last year, they just couldn't do it. The key to his success (and the reason we were uniquely suited to stop it) was that teams couldn't devote adequate resources in the passing game AND stop their OL from just bullying their front 7 in the running game. That's not changing because teams get a chance to review the tape. It's going to continue to be a relatively clean field for him with simple reads because most teams won't have the beef to match up in the trenches. The real question is will he be able to take a step forward to compete against teams like us that do.
Bingo  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 3/13/2017 1:06 pm : link
Dallas isn't going to surprise anyone this year. Zeke is going to still get north of 300 carries, and they are going to make you stop them on the ground. Dak will have relatively simple throws, and will be able to beat you with his legs as well in instances.
it'll be more interesting  
giants#1 : 3/13/2017 1:09 pm : link
to see how the loss of 2 OL starters affects them. Granted it was the 2 weakest links, but it still impacts their overall depth. And by several accounts, La'el Collins looked like crap at LG before getting injured last season. Snacks/Hankins dominated him week 1.
Dallas' OL is still stellar, Zeke and Dak  
Big Blue '56 : 3/13/2017 1:13 pm : link
work it perfectly..The Giants seemed to have the Zeke and Dak answer, but we'll see..
dallas losing all these players  
djm : 3/13/2017 1:31 pm : link
not that they are great players but Dallas doesn't have the cap room to go out and do what the Giants did last year. The Giants replaces trash with greatness. That's how you flip a defense upside down. Dallas is losing mediocre players and replacing them with? Draft picks and 2nd year upstarts? Ok...those kids better be damn good and quick.

Every single dallas fan I talked to after Rodgers ripped their hearts out went on and on about the great young Cowboys and how this season was gravy from the start and it's all good because rookies get better yada yada...not one of them, all so called knowledgeable and as loyal as any ever mentioned the doomsday off-season that dallas was faced with. Nope. The D will be even better because of Jaylon Smith!

I fucking hate that fan base.
Robinson visiting Bengals  
jeff57 : 3/13/2017 1:40 pm : link
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A Boldin  
The 12th Man : 3/13/2017 1:50 pm : link
announced he will be back for another season even though he is turning 39
Chargers release  
The 12th Man : 3/13/2017 1:51 pm : link
OT King Dunlap
By the way just saw this about Dunlap  
The 12th Man : 3/13/2017 1:55 pm : link
On February 16, 2017, Dunlap was arrested in Nashville for violating a protective order against his girlfriend and causing a domestic disturbance.

RE: it'll be more interesting  
GiantTuff1 : 3/13/2017 1:57 pm : link
In comment 13391356 giants#1 said:
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to see how the loss of 2 OL starters affects them. Granted it was the 2 weakest links, but it still impacts their overall depth. And by several accounts, La'el Collins looked like crap at LG before getting injured last season. Snacks/Hankins dominated him week 1.


They were still good players though, curious to see how their defection and loss of continuity plays out.
RE: Robinson visiting Bengals  
Brown Recluse : 3/13/2017 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13391413 jeff57 said:
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Check. Your move, Jerry.
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Interesting  
bigblue12 : 3/13/2017 3:31 pm : link
to see the #'s on Logan. He would have been a good fit should Hankins leave in my opinion
so teamsbringing DTs in are  
DCPollaro : 3/13/2017 4:41 pm : link
Indy, Atl, Jags, Philly, and us ?

am i missing any
Eagles cut QB Chase Daniel after signing Nick Files.  
Vin_Cuccs : 3/13/2017 7:33 pm : link
Would be a great back up option, but will most likely be looking for a place to complete for a starting gig.
Bengals DE Margus Hunt is visiting the Colts  
Vin_Cuccs : 3/13/2017 7:34 pm : link
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And the Colts just signed Hunt.  
Vin_Cuccs : 3/13/2017 7:35 pm : link
2 year deal.
RE: Eagles cut QB Chase Daniel after signing Nick Files.  
Jay on the Island : 3/13/2017 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13392075 Vin_Cuccs said:
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Would be a great back up option, but will most likely be looking for a place to complete for a starting gig.

He will be too expensive but I would be very happy with Daniel as the backup QB at the right price. He has experience in the west coast offense.
RE: RE: HANKINS!!!  
adamg : 3/13/2017 7:54 pm : link
In comment 13391087 Saos1n said:
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In comment 13391086 Pete from Woodstock said:


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ONE YEAR!!!



This seems to make the most sense for both sides...


Wouldn't he need to wait for the JPP deal to be finalized for that deal to be done?
Cordarrelle Patterson  
SHO'NUFF : 3/14/2017 2:26 am : link
to da Raidas...
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