a problem with Vareen at all. But, it's clear the Giants are going to want a bigger bruising type back for short yardage situations, and it looks as if it will come via draft. Should be plenty of quality RBs who fit the mold in the 3rd or 4th round. Many of which have already been mentioned on here.
you do realize that when you do that to a player you get a reputation as an organization who doesn't commit to their promises.
One of the reasons and advantages that FA's choose to sign with the Giants is because of its reputation with players.
there is more to these decisions then you think....
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it's year 3. not year 1 or 2.
so what
so they have every right to cut him after 2 years of meh production, one of which was a zero due to injury. No one is staying away for a gut being cut.$$ and a chance to win is the attraction. You don't keep players out of sentiment.
The fumbling thing is ridiculously overstated. People don't realize how much we missed him this past season.
Totally agree.
I think a big part of the O's drop off last year from the year before had to do with him missing most of the season.
Funny too because there was a lot of hope around here he would be just what they needed coming back off IR last season. Now he's injury/fumble prone and a lot of people want him cut.
like baseball where you shouldn't over value what you see in spring training or September call ups, don't over value what you see from guys in Belichick's system in a particular game. BB can exploit any match up.
Worse, in 6 seasons, SV missed 8 or more games 3 times, 3 games in another. Do you think he is going to get healthier?
Super Bowl has been talked up as if it was some type of legendary performance. He caught 11 passes for 64 yards. I'm sure he had some nice yardage here and there...but c'mon. Francesa talks about this all the time. "He caught 11 passes in the Super Bowl!" Really not that impressive.
He understands how to release out of the backfield into the middle of the field and put pressure on the LB. JAG do not have career YPC over 9 at that position.
He is a very good piece to have on this offense
Based on his salary & compared to those with his # of catches Â
Just because he got the $500K as scheduled, that doesn't necessarily mean there was no quid pro quo. The most likely scenario for a salary reduction included payment of the roster bonus, and possibly some guaranteed salary too.
I can't. I just want a GREAT back. Don't care if he's big small or in between. Sometimes the Giants over think things, especially at the RB position.
I guess I can't blame them for keeping Vereen. He's a solid player. Be nice if he could play in a meaningful stretch of games here. He only played 2015 when the team sucked. When we needed him most he was hurt.
i agree...he seemed to be the only back at the beginning of the year who could make a play. I would love to see perkins-vareen-Murray/AP/Lacy as a three headed monster....but chances are we look for a big back in the draft
Super Bowl has been talked up as if it was some type of legendary performance. He caught 11 passes for 64 yards. I'm sure he had some nice yardage here and there...but c'mon. Francesa talks about this all the time. "He caught 11 passes in the Super Bowl!" Really not that impressive.
Sure beats 11 interceptions, sacks, or incompletions...
Super Bowl has been talked up as if it was some type of legendary performance. He caught 11 passes for 64 yards. I'm sure he had some nice yardage here and there...but c'mon. Francesa talks about this all the time. "He caught 11 passes in the Super Bowl!" Really not that impressive.
he basically had one injury that ruined his year
There are still a couple out there that might be willing to take a 1-year prove it deal.
But it's not like anybody else was consistently moving the chains for us...
he basically had one injury that ruined his year
Because he's played 8 or less games in 3 of his 6 NFL seasons. And he's coming off a season in which he's had two (2!) torn triceps.
Oh and that fumbling issue...
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does everyone assume he is now injury riddled.
he basically had one injury that ruined his year
Because he's played 8 or less games in 3 of his 6 NFL seasons. And he's coming off a season in which he's had two (2!) torn triceps.
Oh and that fumbling issue...
hater! :-)
you do realize that when you do that to a player you get a reputation as an organization who doesn't commit to their promises.
One of the reasons and advantages that FA's choose to sign with the Giants is because of its reputation with players.
there is more to these decisions then you think....
Otherwise, he's a good, still young, threat to have, so delighted they are apparently keeping him
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does everyone assume he is now injury riddled.
he basically had one injury that ruined his year
Because he's played 8 or less games in 3 of his 6 NFL seasons. And he's coming off a season in which he's had two (2!) torn triceps.
Oh and that fumbling issue...
Five career fumbles?
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I wouldn't have paid that for him
you do realize that when you do that to a player you get a reputation as an organization who doesn't commit to their promises.
One of the reasons and advantages that FA's choose to sign with the Giants is because of its reputation with players.
there is more to these decisions then you think....
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it's year 3. not year 1 or 2.
Is he our goal line back?
Is he our goal line back?
Darkwa is no longer a Giant
Darkwa resigned
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He has size and some nimble feet, at times.
Is he our goal line back?
Darkwa is no longer a Giant
Yes he is...we re-signed him last week.
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I wouldn't have paid that for him
you do realize that when you do that to a player you get a reputation as an organization who doesn't commit to their promises.
One of the reasons and advantages that FA's choose to sign with the Giants is because of its reputation with players.
there is more to these decisions then you think....
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it's year 3. not year 1 or 2.
so what
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In comment 13391202 Victor in CT said:
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I wouldn't have paid that for him
you do realize that when you do that to a player you get a reputation as an organization who doesn't commit to their promises.
One of the reasons and advantages that FA's choose to sign with the Giants is because of its reputation with players.
there is more to these decisions then you think....
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it's year 3. not year 1 or 2.
so what
so they have every right to cut him after 2 years of meh production, one of which was a zero due to injury. No one is staying away for a gut being cut.$$ and a chance to win is the attraction. You don't keep players out of sentiment.
or Andre Williams????
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He has size and some nimble feet, at times.
Is he our goal line back?
Darkwa is no longer a Giant
Yes he is...we re-signed him last week.
Ok, thanks
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In comment 13391314 SCGiantsFan said:
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He has size and some nimble feet, at times.
Is he our goal line back?
Darkwa is no longer a Giant
Yes he is...we re-signed him last week.
Ok, thanks
is it possible to get an IR bonus? :-)
Totally agree.
I think a big part of the O's drop off last year from the year before had to do with him missing most of the season.
Funny too because there was a lot of hope around here he would be just what they needed coming back off IR last season. Now he's injury/fumble prone and a lot of people want him cut.
But hey, I'm rootin for the guy to be a beast for us.
Did you miss the Pats Seahawks Super Bowl?
He is a damn good player.
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Did you miss the Pats Seahawks Super Bowl?
He is a damn good player.
like baseball where you shouldn't over value what you see in spring training or September call ups, don't over value what you see from guys in Belichick's system in a particular game. BB can exploit any match up.
Worse, in 6 seasons, SV missed 8 or more games 3 times, 3 games in another. Do you think he is going to get healthier?
Look at his target % the last 4 years.
He is a very good piece to have on this offense
He's the worst at catching balls he's targeted on.
But maybe that's down to Eli & Brady being poor passing him the ball. Poor guy.
I can't. I just want a GREAT back. Don't care if he's big small or in between. Sometimes the Giants over think things, especially at the RB position.
I guess I can't blame them for keeping Vereen. He's a solid player. Be nice if he could play in a meaningful stretch of games here. He only played 2015 when the team sucked. When we needed him most he was hurt.
i agree...he seemed to be the only back at the beginning of the year who could make a play. I would love to see perkins-vareen-Murray/AP/Lacy as a three headed monster....but chances are we look for a big back in the draft
Sure beats 11 interceptions, sacks, or incompletions...
Count me as one who was impressed.