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NFT: Mets announce second round of cuts

DanMetroMan : 3/14/2017 9:35 am
Becerra, Flexen, Molina, Rosario, Bradford, Wilk



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DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 9:51 am : link
Gilmartin and Rowen also not on the trip so the Mets must be changing up their scheduled pitchers in general #Mets
As far as I am concerned  
Rob in Rockaway : 3/15/2017 10:46 am : link
anything we get from Wheeler is a bonus. If I had to bet, I would say Lugo makes more of a contribution this year than Wheeler and probably by a lot.
RE: lol  
JoeMoney19 : 3/15/2017 10:47 am : link
In comment 13392790 DanMetroMan said:
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2h: Manny Ramirez is 44. His contract to play in Japan calls for unlimited sushi, Mercedes w/driver, hotel suite on road, practice optional.

How do you say Manny being Manny in Japanese?
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DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 12:05 pm : link
Bullpen today: Goeddel, Montero, Sewald, Knapp, Peterson

Bench today (only 9): Plaia, Sanchez, Smith, Evans, Woodmansee, Thompson, Taijeron, Mora, Kaczmarski
Lugo will be starting against USA  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 1:23 pm : link
Best we got at a chance to watch real baseball for a couple weeks. Excited to see how he does.
No radar  
pjcas18 : 3/15/2017 1:24 pm : link
gun again for Harvey
RE: No radar  
Metnut : 3/15/2017 1:31 pm : link
In comment 13394014 pjcas18 said:
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gun again for Harvey


Ehalt says sitting 92-93 but hit 95 once. Pretty much the same as other starts although a slight uptick here.
Not very impressive  
Shecky : 3/15/2017 1:43 pm : link
Yet
Tebow with another hit today  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 1:45 pm : link
Opposite way.
RE: Tebow with another hit today  
Shecky : 3/15/2017 1:47 pm : link
In comment 13394056 ZGiants98 said:
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Opposite way.

"Hit" a term being used loosely today
Uh  
Shecky : 3/15/2017 1:49 pm : link
Ohhhhhhhhh
Ehalt  
Metnut : 3/15/2017 1:54 pm : link
says he's sitting 90-92 in the second inning.
Conforto double off  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 2:02 pm : link
A lefty.
Marlins announcers have Harvey  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 2:07 pm : link
"Mostly 92 and 93 with a FEW 95s". His last pitch in the third was 93 and he just got a K on a "beautiful curve".

I think we need to remember Harvey is about 6 innings in after his TOS surgery. I'm encouraged he's hitting 95 this early to be honest.
Carig  
DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 2:14 pm : link
also had him 90-92 in the 2nd

Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
Unearned run for Harvey. 90-92 in that second inning.
I  
DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 2:16 pm : link
would not be stunned if Harvey is deemed not ready for opening day. A velocity drop from 1 inning to the next that step may suggest he needs more time than we think.
Stadium gun, Marlins announcers,  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 2:17 pm : link
And gameday all had him at least 93 in the third so I guess he started throwing harder.
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ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 2:19 pm : link
Matt Ehalt @MattEhalt
Harvey velocity by inning:
1st: 92-93
2nd: 90-92
3rd: Mostly 93
A's  
DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 2:22 pm : link
and Mariners official twitter feeds are "fighting" and it's great. Fun stuff.
Extended spring training might not be the worst  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 2:24 pm : link
For Harvey considering what he's went through. Still have a couple weeks though. If Lugo dominates the USA team tonight it might make that decision even easier.
Apparently  
DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 2:24 pm : link
Tebow's arm is like laughably below MLB standards.
Wow.  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 2:29 pm : link
Dendekker having a huge day. Harvey is getting beat up in the 4th not helped by a Reynolds error.
RE: Apparently  
Shecky : 3/15/2017 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13394109 DanMetroMan said:
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Tebow's arm is like laughably below MLB standards.


Was with a guy yesterday who knows virtually nothing about baseball. Even he was laughing watching Tebow go after a ball hit his way. He looks like what he is, a non baseball player out there playing baseball.
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DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 2:29 pm : link
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Matt Harvey is done after 67 pitches and 3.1 IP. He allowed a pair of doubles on 91-mph fastballs in the fourth. Four runs in total. #Mets
Disappointing  
DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 2:31 pm : link
outing. Still time but not really showing much improvement so far.
Tebow 2-2 on a line drive  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 2:36 pm : link
Lol. What is going on?
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DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 2:37 pm : link
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#TebowUpdate: Hes 2-for-2 today, haters.
Really hope Harvey can get back on track.  
arcarsenal : 3/15/2017 2:40 pm : link
Ugh.
Sounds like Harvey might be heading for extended ST  
debo_GIANTS : 3/15/2017 2:45 pm : link
Paging Dr Lugo.....
Lol  
Shecky : 3/15/2017 2:47 pm : link
Nice, but awkward, catch by Tebow. So out of place.
Tebow just made a diving, lunging  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 2:47 pm : link
Play in the wind in RF. Lol.
Marlins announcers said the wind was pushing the ball  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 2:48 pm : link
And it was a tough play.
RE: Marlins announcers said the wind was pushing the ball  
Shecky : 3/15/2017 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13394154 ZGiants98 said:
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And it was a tough play.


Homers....

Looked like he misjudged it, caught it and fell. Didn't have the best view to be honest.
Derek Norris released by Nats  
spike : 3/15/2017 2:52 pm : link
Time to bring him in?
RE: Derek Norris released by Nats  
DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13394161 spike said:
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Time to bring him in?


Nats apparently were doing him a solid and giving him a chance to look for a starting role. We aren't going to offer him that (maybe nobody will) but he will be looking for one.
Kernan  
DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 2:59 pm : link
says Montero not looking good this inning.
Montero still going  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 3:09 pm : link
Woodmansee at SS
Hit 94  
Shecky : 3/15/2017 3:09 pm : link
But no control
Tebow has a higher batting average than  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 3:18 pm : link
Mike Trout this spring now. lol
RE: RE: Derek Norris released by Nats  
spike : 3/15/2017 3:24 pm : link
In comment 13394165 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 13394161 spike said:


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Time to bring him in?



Nats apparently were doing him a solid and giving him a chance to look for a starting role. We aren't going to offer him that (maybe nobody will) but he will be looking for one.


let him shop around for that, but if he can be an upgrade over Rivera, I'd totally give him an offer
Derek Norris was the worst every day  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 3:31 pm : link
hitter in baseball last year. There was nobody worse. His 2015 wasn't so hot either. I dont get the appeal.
In fact Derek Norris's "best year"  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 3:35 pm : link
in 2014 wasn't even as good as Rene Rivera's that year in terms of fWAR.
RE: Derek Norris was the worst every day  
DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 3:38 pm : link
In comment 13394223 ZGiants98 said:
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hitter in baseball last year. There was nobody worse. His 2015 wasn't so hot either. I dont get the appeal.



Not totally fair. 2015 25 catchers had 350 or more PA's

Norris
11th in wRC+
12th in wOBA
10h in overall offense

TDA 2015+2016 (just for comparisons sake)
9th in wRC+
12th in wOBA
9th in overall offense

So essentially it would be like adding a second TDA (at least based on recent #'s)
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DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 3:39 pm : link
In comment 13394228 ZGiants98 said:
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in 2014 wasn't even as good as Rene Rivera's that year in terms of fWAR.


TDA's best season ever is 2.3 fWAR yet I don't see you asking for Rene Rivera to start. Norris has 3 seasons 2.2 fWAR or greater. TDA has 1.
I am not comparing TDA to Norris at all  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 3:44 pm : link
Nor will I. We all know what TDA's issues have been and they've mostly had to do with staying healthy so its not apples to apples. And I wouldn't like to add "two TDAs" if we are talking in terms of risk which Norris has. Im comfortable with Rene Rivera as the backup, he knows the staff. If we are going to add a better vet I want somebody established. Not somebody who has been awful for two years and may not even be better than Rivera if Rivera somehow were asked to play all year.
I also dont see why you would average  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2017 3:46 pm : link
TDA's 2015 and 2016 together and not do that with Norris. Norris is coming off a historically bad year. Doesn't seem fair.
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Eric on Li : 3/15/2017 3:46 pm : link
In comment 13394096 DanMetroMan said:
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would not be stunned if Harvey is deemed not ready for opening day. A velocity drop from 1 inning to the next that step may suggest he needs more time than we think.


I hope he starts the year in extended ST and spends as much time as needs to getting right. He seemed to be excited about some of the progress he made today and he obviously always likes to push it, but there's no reason not to be as conservative as humanly possible.
RE: I am not comparing TDA to Norris at all  
DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13394244 ZGiants98 said:
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Nor will I. We all know what TDA's issues have been and they've mostly had to do with staying healthy so its not apples to apples. And I wouldn't like to add "two TDAs" if we are talking in terms of risk which Norris has. Im comfortable with Rene Rivera as the backup, he knows the staff. If we are going to add a better vet I want somebody established. Not somebody who has been awful for two years and may not even be better than Rivera if Rivera somehow were asked to play all year.


? What "risk" does Norris have? We don't even know what he would cost. What's the risk? He sucks? You make it sound like he's getting years and money. He's not going to get either. It's as "no risk" as they come.
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NewFakeDannyHeep : 3/15/2017 3:49 pm : link
In comment 13394199 ZGiants98 said:
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Mike Trout this spring now. lol


Trade him while his value is highest!

Also, if Tim Tebow could be traded for Mike Trout, I'll believe anything Tebow tells me to believe.
RE: I also dont see why you would average  
DanMetroMan : 3/15/2017 3:50 pm : link
In comment 13394251 ZGiants98 said:
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TDA's 2015 and 2016 together and not do that with Norris. Norris is coming off a historically bad year. Doesn't seem fair.


Huh? You said Norris had a bad 2015 yet his 2015 puts his production on par with what TDA has given us the last 2 seasons. You aren't giving up on TDA yet right? So why would Norris be "done" by one really bad season? He was an above average starting catcher in 2015 despite your claims otherwise. 2.4 fWAR which again is higher fWAR than ANY season TDA has put up. Really strange to say his 2015 wasn't good enough to have some interest.
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