possible he sign a one year show me deal. I think we overate Hankins as Giants fan. But Id throw him a one year deal worth ten million. It would be right off the cap next year and we aren't going to sign anybody worthy anyway.
possible he sign a one year show me deal. I think we overate Hankins as Giants fan. But Id throw him a one year deal worth ten million. It would be right off the cap next year and we aren't going to sign anybody worthy anyway.
Yeah. Just throw 10 mill in cap down the drain, why not?
With someone else, any day now. His agent and the market has been tight lipped about this. Probably has something to do with JPP and the behind the scenes. A number may have been agreed to contingent on other factors, like JPP and JT Thomas agreeing to a injury settlement. Keenan Robinson as well.
While at this point its more and more likely he signs a 1 year show me type of deal with another team.To me thats makes absoluitely no sense. If its one year and affordable why not with us?
means he is asking more than he is worth. I think this is working in the Giants favor. Might be able to sign him for a 5-6 million one year show me deal.
possible he sign a one year show me deal. I think we overate Hankins as Giants fan. But Id throw him a one year deal worth ten million. It would be right off the cap next year and we aren't going to sign anybody worthy anyway.
I don't think you understand how the salary cap works.
I do. The Redskins gave the ex-Cowboy a 5 Million signing bonus , 20 mill over 4 with 10 guaranteed . So what do you think Hank will "settle" for? He will get signed . But the Giants probably blew their wad on Jerry, at least the way they do their CAP.
the better the chances that Hankins comes back to the Giants. That he can't find the money he's looking for tells you that teams aren't sold on what Hankins can do by himself and probably feel that his good season we more due to the fact that he had Snacks next to him, along with Vernon and JPP. Add in one of the best secondaries in the NFL, teams probably feel that Hankins is more of a complimentary player rather than a horse who will dominate. With a dried up market, Hankins is better off returning to the Giants where he knows the system and can look to continue to play well and give it another shot in 2018.
possible he sign a one year show me deal. I think we overate Hankins as Giants fan. But Id throw him a one year deal worth ten million. It would be right off the cap next year and we aren't going to sign anybody worthy anyway.
I don't think you understand how the salary cap works.
if you have ten million in space. And you give a guy a one year ten million contract. The following year you owe him nothing and the ten million becomes free again. Thus, if the Giants have a free ten million lying around and nobody to spend it on, why not?
the better the chances that Hankins comes back to the Giants. That he can't find the money he's looking for tells you that teams aren't sold on what Hankins can do by himself and probably feel that his good season we more due to the fact that he had Snacks next to him, along with Vernon and JPP. Add in one of the best secondaries in the NFL, teams probably feel that Hankins is more of a complimentary player rather than a horse who will dominate. With a dried up market, Hankins is better off returning to the Giants where he knows the system and can look to continue to play well and give it another shot in 2018.
+1.
Now watch him sign a long term deal with someone tomorrow.
There's a lot of sentiment out there that the Giants should let him go
They don't need two run-stuffing tackles, especially when the defensive ends are strong against the run, Hankins was less effective this year because he was playing farther from the ball, that ideally Hankins should be a nose tackle in a 3-4 defense. The draft is strong in defensive tackles and the Giants should be able to find a pass-rushing tackle with a middle round draft choice.
The argument in favor of bringing back Hankins is much simpler: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
The defense was excellent last season, and was still improving month by month until JPP went down. Do you really believe all these self-proclaimed analysts of the game who tell you that Hankins was in the top quarter of defensive tackles in 2014 and in the bottom quarter in 2016?
Is everyone really convinced that Harrison made Hankins look better (even though they are saying he didn't play that well)? Maybe Harrison doesn't make 1st team All Pro without Hankins playing next to him.
For most, what this comes down to is bring Hankins back if he wants to come back (of course he said he did) and his asking price is not far out of line. But don't chase him.
possible he sign a one year show me deal. I think we overate Hankins as Giants fan. But Id throw him a one year deal worth ten million. It would be right off the cap next year and we aren't going to sign anybody worthy anyway.
Yeah. Just throw 10 mill in cap down the drain, why not?
What is the deal with extra cap room? Can you carry all of it over to the next season. At this point I don't see them signing any guys of what is remaining to big deals even if they get the JPP thing worked out. Just thinking ahead to next year when we have a ton of guys to re-sign.
with Dallas.
Two 350 run stuffers going up against Fredrickson, the kid from Notre Dame and Collins blunt that brutally strong interior.
A true no.penetrating DT may play well against other teams but two nose guards works against Dallas. And right now the team we have to be designing our personnel for is Dallas.
During the year Snacks said that Hankins had a huge upside. I jump back to 2014 and remember a guy who had it all: who could penetrate, collapse the pocket and stuff the run.
I hope we're able to bring him back.
We sign him to a long term deal we are better off defensively and for the future. Remember, football is a brutal sport and injuries happen. We must beat Dallas 2x to win this divsion (spoken like a true fan...).
I don't like letting go of a 24 year old DT with a good motor
He hasn't played well enough to get some kind of mega-deal and the market is telling us that. Why can't they get him signed long term for what he is? A good role player on a contending team.
Agree. This is almost silly. Hankins is worthy of a starting position
A one year deal would probably be $5-6M ballpark, as would an extension. Giants waiting out the market and probably won't overextend very far over value.
Yeah. Just throw 10 mill in cap down the drain, why not?
With someone else, any day now. His agent and the market has been tight lipped about this. Probably has something to do with JPP and the behind the scenes. A number may have been agreed to contingent on other factors, like JPP and JT Thomas agreeing to a injury settlement. Keenan Robinson as well.
I don't think you understand how the salary cap works.
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possible he sign a one year show me deal. I think we overate Hankins as Giants fan. But Id throw him a one year deal worth ten million. It would be right off the cap next year and we aren't going to sign anybody worthy anyway.
I don't think you understand how the salary cap works.
+1.
Now watch him sign a long term deal with someone tomorrow.
The argument in favor of bringing back Hankins is much simpler: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
The defense was excellent last season, and was still improving month by month until JPP went down. Do you really believe all these self-proclaimed analysts of the game who tell you that Hankins was in the top quarter of defensive tackles in 2014 and in the bottom quarter in 2016?
Is everyone really convinced that Harrison made Hankins look better (even though they are saying he didn't play that well)? Maybe Harrison doesn't make 1st team All Pro without Hankins playing next to him.
For most, what this comes down to is bring Hankins back if he wants to come back (of course he said he did) and his asking price is not far out of line. But don't chase him.
I like the fact that Hanks has not found a team...he fits with Snacks and The Giants...
Sadly he could return a bit humbled...he should be proud of his game...
Heck of a DT...
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possible he sign a one year show me deal. I think we overate Hankins as Giants fan. But Id throw him a one year deal worth ten million. It would be right off the cap next year and we aren't going to sign anybody worthy anyway.
Yeah. Just throw 10 mill in cap down the drain, why not?
What is the deal with extra cap room? Can you carry all of it over to the next season. At this point I don't see them signing any guys of what is remaining to big deals even if they get the JPP thing worked out. Just thinking ahead to next year when we have a ton of guys to re-sign.
With the Giants, Hankins is always going to be the small fish playing on the defensive line with three whales.
With another team he would get a lot more attention and be one of the leaders of the line.
You're correct.
Two 350 run stuffers going up against Fredrickson, the kid from Notre Dame and Collins blunt that brutally strong interior.
A true no.penetrating DT may play well against other teams but two nose guards works against Dallas. And right now the team we have to be designing our personnel for is Dallas.
During the year Snacks said that Hankins had a huge upside. I jump back to 2014 and remember a guy who had it all: who could penetrate, collapse the pocket and stuff the run.
I hope we're able to bring him back.
We sign him to a long term deal we are better off defensively and for the future. Remember, football is a brutal sport and injuries happen. We must beat Dallas 2x to win this divsion (spoken like a true fan...).
But to consider him valuable is a huge overstatement. He is simply
Wove to keep him, but don't let the door hit you on the wait out....
Let me know when D Jackson is available
with the Raiders, just joking, but wouldn't surprise me.