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NFT: Doctor Strange

Vin R : 3/15/2017 10:11 am
Watched it for the first time last night..

Dare I say top 3 Marvel movie?
It was outstanding!  
ttb from Roanoke, VA : 3/15/2017 10:16 am : link
Very true and authentic to the character and his story.
Dude, Vin!  
Giantology : 3/15/2017 10:17 am : link
Not catching that in 3D in the theaters was a mistake! Some of the psychedelic moments were so awesome on the big screen.

Definitely enjoyed it a lot, looking forward to seeing Strange integrated into the rest of the Marvel films.
RE: Dude, Vin!  
Vin R : 3/15/2017 10:19 am : link
In comment 13393757 Giantology said:
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Not catching that in 3D in the theaters was a mistake! Some of the psychedelic moments were so awesome on the big screen.

Definitely enjoyed it a lot, looking forward to seeing Strange integrated into the rest of the Marvel films.


I bet! Unfortunately I was crazy busy when it was released in theaters & I get a crazy headache when watching 3D
It amazes me how  
JerryNYG : 3/15/2017 10:23 am : link
Marvel can make Dr. Strange, Ant Man, and Guardians Of The Galaxy into must see blockbusters, but DC manages to fuck up Batman Vs. Superman.

I really want Wonder Woman to be a success and reverse the trend. Trailers look promising so far...
surprised you didn't see it when it came out  
UConn4523 : 3/15/2017 10:33 am : link
this was the one I was looking forward to most, I thought it was very good. I hope they keep it somewhat separate from the MCU since their powers just seem far too great for the other pieces of the story, and I would hate for it to be watered/dumbed down just to fit in.
You'll also see Dr. Strange  
pganut : 3/15/2017 10:36 am : link
In the upcoming Thor: Ragnarok movie.
RE: It amazes me how  
Vin R : 3/15/2017 10:43 am : link
In comment 13393766 JerryNYG said:
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Marvel can make Dr. Strange, Ant Man, and Guardians Of The Galaxy into must see blockbusters, but DC manages to fuck up Batman Vs. Superman.

I really want Wonder Woman to be a success and reverse the trend. Trailers look promising so far...


Jerry, not trying to make this a DC vs Marvel thread but have you seen the BVS Ultimate Cut?
RE: It amazes me how  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/15/2017 10:44 am : link
In comment 13393766 JerryNYG said:
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Marvel can make Dr. Strange, Ant Man, and Guardians Of The Galaxy into must see blockbusters, but DC manages to fuck up Batman Vs. Superman.

I really want Wonder Woman to be a success and reverse the trend. Trailers look promising so far...


Suicide Squad looked good in trailers too...
Not to miller the thread  
jvm52106 : 3/15/2017 10:52 am : link
and turn it DC vs Marvel but the real issue is DC is trying too hard to mash a movie together to make it part of a bigger universe but without really connecting the dots.

Suicide Squad's orginal trailer looked awesome. The more trailers that came out the more I got worried that I had already seen the best parts of the movie. Then the movie itself was a miss mash of cobbled together scenes. The actual timeline of the movie seemed very hastily put together.

BVS, even the ultimate cut still has major flaws. But, at least the ultimate explains a bit more of the motivation of many of the characters. The BS dream within a dream sequence was still a joke and poorly done. On top of that, the CGI bs has to stop. They killed Doomsday by making it look absolutely fake. Marvel makes the HULK look pretty damn real within the movie but Doomsday was clearly not at all realistic or consistent.

DC needs to slow down and make movies that are connected before just TRYING to make one big movie... But, too late.
agreed  
GiantNatty : 3/15/2017 10:58 am : link
one of the better superhero movies...
RE: Not to miller the thread  
Vin R : 3/15/2017 11:02 am : link
In comment 13393811 jvm52106 said:
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and turn it DC vs Marvel but the real issue is DC is trying too hard to mash a movie together to make it part of a bigger universe but without really connecting the dots.

Suicide Squad's orginal trailer looked awesome. The more trailers that came out the more I got worried that I had already seen the best parts of the movie. Then the movie itself was a miss mash of cobbled together scenes. The actual timeline of the movie seemed very hastily put together.

BVS, even the ultimate cut still has major flaws. But, at least the ultimate explains a bit more of the motivation of many of the characters. The BS dream within a dream sequence was still a joke and poorly done. On top of that, the CGI bs has to stop. They killed Doomsday by making it look absolutely fake. Marvel makes the HULK look pretty damn real within the movie but Doomsday was clearly not at all realistic or consistent.

DC needs to slow down and make movies that are connected before just TRYING to make one big movie... But, too late.


Agree about Doomsday.. As far as SS goes - the first trailer was definitely Ayer, then when more footage came out you could tell that WB got their hands on it. Ayer even said that he wanted Joker to be the main villain, a lot of Leto's scenes were cut out.
Also.. Matthew Vaughn is in talks to direct the next  
Vin R : 3/15/2017 11:02 am : link
Superman movie
RE: Also.. Matthew Vaughn is in talks to direct the next  
UConn4523 : 3/15/2017 11:10 am : link
In comment 13393825 Vin R said:
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Superman movie


I love Vaughn, can't wait for I Am Pilgrim. Not sure I want him getting sucked into DC though. I can see that derailing his other projects and WB seems awful to work with.
I didnt like  
spike : 3/15/2017 12:04 pm : link
How fast he went from apprentice to master sorcerer
RE: Not to miller the thread  
Lopes1984 : 3/15/2017 12:05 pm : link
In comment 13393811 jvm52106 said:
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and turn it DC vs Marvel but the real issue is DC is trying too hard to mash a movie together to make it part of a bigger universe but without really connecting the dots.

Suicide Squad's orginal trailer looked awesome. The more trailers that came out the more I got worried that I had already seen the best parts of the movie. Then the movie itself was a miss mash of cobbled together scenes. The actual timeline of the movie seemed very hastily put together.

BVS, even the ultimate cut still has major flaws. But, at least the ultimate explains a bit more of the motivation of many of the characters. The BS dream within a dream sequence was still a joke and poorly done. On top of that, the CGI bs has to stop. They killed Doomsday by making it look absolutely fake. Marvel makes the HULK look pretty damn real within the movie but Doomsday was clearly not at all realistic or consistent.

DC needs to slow down and make movies that are connected before just TRYING to make one big movie... But, too late.


The biggest issue DC is having is that they are trying too hard to compete with Marvel rather than just focusing on putting out good movies. Man of Steel was a solid start, it did relatively well at the box office and it was good for a Superman origin story. From there they should have continued to build the universe rather than rushing into the Justice League just to keep up with the Avengers.

You want to introduce Batman as a seasoned vigilante that's been around for years and sees Superman as a threat? Fine, it was an interesting concept, and there were parts of that movie that were really cool, but why are you also throwing in Doomsday and the bullshit setup for Justice League? Flesh out Lex Luthor in BvS, introduce Wonder Woman, Flash, etc in their own films, save Doomsday for Man of Steel 2. After Man of Steel 2 you can focus on Bruce Wayne trying to get the Justice League together as a reaction to the death of Superman.

They tried cramming 4 films worth of material into one movie instead of taking their time to set up the shared universe.

RE: RE: Not to miller the thread  
RobCarpenter : 3/15/2017 12:10 pm : link
In comment 13393823 Vin R said:
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In comment 13393811 jvm52106 said:


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and turn it DC vs Marvel but the real issue is DC is trying too hard to mash a movie together to make it part of a bigger universe but without really connecting the dots.

Suicide Squad's orginal trailer looked awesome. The more trailers that came out the more I got worried that I had already seen the best parts of the movie. Then the movie itself was a miss mash of cobbled together scenes. The actual timeline of the movie seemed very hastily put together.

BVS, even the ultimate cut still has major flaws. But, at least the ultimate explains a bit more of the motivation of many of the characters. The BS dream within a dream sequence was still a joke and poorly done. On top of that, the CGI bs has to stop. They killed Doomsday by making it look absolutely fake. Marvel makes the HULK look pretty damn real within the movie but Doomsday was clearly not at all realistic or consistent.

DC needs to slow down and make movies that are connected before just TRYING to make one big movie... But, too late.



Agree about Doomsday.. As far as SS goes - the first trailer was definitely Ayer, then when more footage came out you could tell that WB got their hands on it. Ayer even said that he wanted Joker to be the main villain, a lot of Leto's scenes were cut out.


Marvel focuses on story and DC doesn't. That's the main difference.

Think about the basic story arc of Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, and Doctor Strange. In each you have clear protagonists/antagonists and understand their motivations, and their actions are consistent with their motivations.

Then think about the story arc of BvS and Suicide Squad. The stories are total messes in each of these.

Re: Suicide Squad  
TheOtherManning : 3/15/2017 12:18 pm : link
Maybe someone like Vin can correct me if I'm wrong, but I distinctly remember reading about how Warner Bros, while Suicide Squad was still in post-production, liked the internet buzz from one of the later trailers so much that they actually had the team/company responsible for it (who up to that point had only ever produced trailers) do their own final cut of the film. They then took this final cut and the one done by the actual director, screened them for test audiences, and took the bits from each movie that tested best and mashed them together into a single franken-movie.

So yeah, not much of a surprise that Suicide Squad was an incoherent mess.
RE: I didnt like  
UConn4523 : 3/15/2017 12:29 pm : link
In comment 13393891 spike said:
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How fast he went from apprentice to master sorcerer


Doctor Strange would have been perfect for Netflix for this reason.
RE: I didnt like  
Giantology : 3/15/2017 12:34 pm : link
In comment 13393891 spike said:
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How fast he went from apprentice to master sorcerer


It only seemed fast because they had to cram it into a 2 hour movie.
RE: RE: It amazes me how  
santacruzom : 3/15/2017 12:52 pm : link
In comment 13393796 Vin R said:
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Marvel can make Dr. Strange, Ant Man, and Guardians Of The Galaxy into must see blockbusters, but DC manages to fuck up Batman Vs. Superman.

I really want Wonder Woman to be a success and reverse the trend. Trailers look promising so far...



Jerry, not trying to make this a DC vs Marvel thread but have you seen the BVS Ultimate Cut?


I did. I can't compare it with the original, but the ultimate cut was an average movie experience at best.
RE: RE: Also.. Matthew Vaughn is in talks to direct the next  
santacruzom : 3/15/2017 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13393829 UConn4523 said:
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Superman movie



I love Vaughn, can't wait for I Am Pilgrim.


I really wish that they'd release I Am Pilgrim as 8 episodes on Netflix or HBO or something. One movie is going to have to truncate a shitload.
RE: RE: RE: Also.. Matthew Vaughn is in talks to direct the next  
UConn4523 : 3/15/2017 1:14 pm : link
In comment 13393975 santacruzom said:
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In comment 13393825 Vin R said:


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Superman movie



I love Vaughn, can't wait for I Am Pilgrim.



I really wish that they'd release I Am Pilgrim as 8 episodes on Netflix or HBO or something. One movie is going to have to truncate a shitload.


I agree, as pumped as I am for the movie, I can't help but think what will be trimmed off it to fit (which would suck because the stages of the story are imperative when trying to comprehend the scope of the planning and investigation).
We may see a trend of 'dark' vs 'fun' comic hero storylines  
ATL_Giants : 3/15/2017 2:03 pm : link
Dark: Deadpool, and now Logan have clearly opened a venue for R-rated comic movies.

Fun: Dr Strange, GoG, Avengers... a profitable track for the kid friendly viewing remains viable.

Now what to do with the Hulk? Bruce Banner on an R-rated vengeance-rage mission is very appealing to me ;-)
an R rated Hulk could be cool  
UConn4523 : 3/15/2017 2:15 pm : link
but the downside is the CGI. It works in small doses in the Avengers, but it would be hard to watch for a full length movie. I think that's part of the reason he wasn't re-introduced in a stand-alone prior to Avengers.
RE: We may see a trend of 'dark' vs 'fun' comic hero storylines  
spike : 3/15/2017 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13394081 ATL_Giants said:
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Dark: Deadpool, and now Logan have clearly opened a venue for R-rated comic movies.

Fun: Dr Strange, GoG, Avengers... a profitable track for the kid friendly viewing remains viable.

Now what to do with the Hulk? Bruce Banner on an R-rated vengeance-rage mission is very appealing to me ;-)


Planet Hulk! Then World War Hulk! They are doing part of Planet Hulk in the new Thor sequel
another reason that Marvel...  
Italianju : 3/15/2017 3:00 pm : link
isnt working on a solo Hulk movie is that apparently Universal still has like distribution rights to any solo hulk movie. That is part of the reason they are putting Planet Hulk in a Thor movie.
RE: It amazes me how  
Ron from Ninerland : 3/15/2017 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13393766 JerryNYG said:
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Marvel can make Dr. Strange, Ant Man, and Guardians Of The Galaxy into must see blockbusters, but DC manages to fuck up Batman Vs. Superman.

I really want Wonder Woman to be a success and reverse the trend. Trailers look promising so far...


+1.
I'm cautiously optimistic about Wonder Woman. Aside from D.C's ability to screw everything up, the trailers look promising. The WW II time setting for this movie is a good move. Its what helped make Captain America a success
Gal Gadot  
ATL_Giants : 3/15/2017 4:14 pm : link
is so perfect for the WW role. I know DC will find a way to ruin, but I'm rooting for this to be a hit.
RE: We may see a trend of 'dark' vs 'fun' comic hero storylines  
Lopes1984 : 3/15/2017 4:26 pm : link
In comment 13394081 ATL_Giants said:
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Dark: Deadpool, and now Logan have clearly opened a venue for R-rated comic movies.

Fun: Dr Strange, GoG, Avengers... a profitable track for the kid friendly viewing remains viable.

Now what to do with the Hulk? Bruce Banner on an R-rated vengeance-rage mission is very appealing to me ;-)



Disney would never let Marvel Studios put out an R rated movie, too much toy revenue would be lost by making a major release like the Hulk strictly for adults.
I 'm a Cumberbitch  
shelovesnycsports : 3/15/2017 4:27 pm : link
so anything Benedict does is fine with me. One of my favorite British Actors. I liked the special effects too and believe Strange is the one who will save the world from the big bad Thanos in the big Avengers movie.
Agree BM was so  
Dave on the UWS : 3/15/2017 5:02 pm : link
Perfectly cast as Strange. His American accent was pretty cool too. He rocks as Sherlock
At one point in the Marvel universe  
shelovesnycsports : 3/15/2017 5:05 pm : link
Tony Stark has to say to Strange..
No shit Sherlock. This has to happen.
Even before DD came out on Netflix  
Vin R : 3/15/2017 5:39 pm : link
I always thought that it'd be awesome to see DC & Marvel go this route with all of their characters and when it came time for the team up like Justice League & the Avengers those would be released on the big screen
Dr. Strange - solid Marvel film but not top 3  
eclipz928 : 3/15/2017 7:05 pm : link
In my opinion, top 3 flicks:

1. Captain America: Winter Soldier
2. Iron Man
3. Avengers 2: Age of Ultron
RE: Dr. Strange - solid Marvel film but not top 3  
spike : 3/15/2017 7:28 pm : link
In comment 13394480 eclipz928 said:
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In my opinion, top 3 flicks:

1. Captain America: Winter Soldier
2. Iron Man
3. Avengers 2: Age of Ultron


My top 5 would be
1. CA TWS
2. Iron Man
3. GoTG
4. Avengers 1
5. CA CW
Guardians of the Galaxy  
shelovesnycsports : 3/15/2017 7:51 pm : link
is my favorite. The music and the story and the actors really made that like a new Star Wars movie.
Marvel TV  
RobCarpenter : 3/15/2017 8:00 pm : link
Finally got the Punisher right. Easily the best thing about DD season 2.

I really hope Iron Fist doesn't suck as much as the early reviews indicate.
RE: Dr. Strange - solid Marvel film but not top 3  
Giantology : 3/15/2017 8:38 pm : link
In comment 13394480 eclipz928 said:
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In my opinion, top 3 flicks:

1. Captain America: Winter Soldier
2. Iron Man
3. Avengers 2: Age of Ultron


Really? I thought Age of Ultron was just OK, especially compared to the first Avemgers film.
1: Winter Soldier  
Vin R : 3/15/2017 8:44 pm : link
2: Guardians
3: Strange
RE: Gal Gadot  
santacruzom : 3/15/2017 10:01 pm : link
In comment 13394302 ATL_Giants said:
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is so perfect for the WW role. I know DC will find a way to ruin, but I'm rooting for this to be a hit.


My prediction: they'll remove absolutely every semblance of humor and charisma with extreme aggression and prejudice.
RE: RE: It amazes me how  
JerryNYG : 3/15/2017 10:25 pm : link
In comment 13393796 Vin R said:
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In comment 13393766 JerryNYG said:


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Marvel can make Dr. Strange, Ant Man, and Guardians Of The Galaxy into must see blockbusters, but DC manages to fuck up Batman Vs. Superman.

I really want Wonder Woman to be a success and reverse the trend. Trailers look promising so far...



Jerry, not trying to make this a DC vs Marvel thread but have you seen the BVS Ultimate Cut?


I did see it. The ultimate cut movie made somewhat more sense, but I still can't wrap my head around how this is the best they could do with Superman, Batman, and a handful of other iconic DC characters.

I believe they need some fresh blood at the helm. Zack Snyder is terrible and whoever came up with the "why not copy Marvel's blueprint but skip a few steps and make it grimdark" vision for the DC movie universe needs to go.

I am absolutely positive someone can and will make some good movies with the DC characters, but IMHO that has not happened yet (outside of the Nolan trilogy and the first two Superman movies back in the day).
As far as favorite Marvel movies goes...  
JerryNYG : 3/15/2017 10:28 pm : link
1. Guardians of the Galaxy
2. Captain America Civil War
3. Captain America Winter Soldier
4. Avengers
5. Dr. Strange

Subject to change based on mood. Thor 2 and Iron Man 2 were sort of mediocre, but everything else has been pretty great in my view.
Just finished watching it with my boys  
Steve L : 3/15/2017 10:32 pm : link
None of us knew the Dr. Strange story so knew nothing going in. I loved it. One of my boys thought it didn't explain enough which I tend to agree with. But it was a great and Visually amazing movie.

Does he eventually work his way into The Avengers?
RE: Just finished watching it with my boys  
eclipz928 : 3/16/2017 12:13 am : link
In comment 13394632 Steve L said:
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None of us knew the Dr. Strange story so knew nothing going in. I loved it. One of my boys thought it didn't explain enough which I tend to agree with. But it was a great and Visually amazing movie.

Does he eventually work his way into The Avengers?


EVERYONE eventually works their way into the Avengers. Basically any super hero that has ever been in a Marvel comic book at some point has been an Avenger.
RE: RE: Dr. Strange - solid Marvel film but not top 3  
eclipz928 : 3/16/2017 12:21 am : link
In comment 13394563 Giantology said:
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In comment 13394480 eclipz928 said:


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In my opinion, top 3 flicks:

1. Captain America: Winter Soldier
2. Iron Man
3. Avengers 2: Age of Ultron



Really? I thought Age of Ultron was just OK, especially compared to the first Avemgers film.

I can go either way on the two Avengers movie, but overall I just thought AoU was a slightly more refined film, especially with the presentation of the characters. People like Black Widow and Hawkeye were less one-dimensional and more meaningful in their roles, whereas in the first Avengers they could have been completely written out of the movie and no one would've missed them.
..  
ATL_Giants : 3/16/2017 9:01 am : link
1. Deadpool
2. Logan
3. Avengers 1
4. Iron Man 1
5. CM Civil War
my top 5 would be  
UConn4523 : 3/16/2017 9:08 am : link
1. Guardians
2. Iron Man
3. CA Winter Soldier
4. Ant-Man
5. Strange

Depending on the day that order may change.
As always  
Vin R : 3/16/2017 3:03 pm : link
I couldn't agree more with some of the points Lopes & Jerry made.

Really would've loved to have seen Supes go against Doomsday in his own film, alone.
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