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Rock: The numbers behind the Giantsí salary cap

Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/15/2017 8:47 pm
Another salary cap snapshot.
The numbers behind the Giantsí salary cap - ( New Window )
4 million left  
Anakim : 3/15/2017 8:58 pm : link
I doubt that's enough to bring back Hankins, but if we cut Harris and Thomas, maybe?




I also really think we should sign LB Zach Brown
That 4M cap  
Doomster : 3/15/2017 11:30 pm : link
does not include the Jerry and Darkwa signings...so it is less than 4M.....

Plus you like to keep an excess(Giants had 10M last year), for signings due to injuries, free agent availability, etc.,....
But it does include the draft pool.....that is hugh.  
George from PA : 3/16/2017 6:08 am : link
I also suspect Darkwa and Jerry numbers have minimal impact as they are replacing similar numbers.
RE: 4 million left  
djstat : 3/16/2017 7:35 am : link
In comment 13394573 Anakim said:
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I doubt that's enough to bring back Hankins, but if we cut Harris and Thomas, maybe?




I also really think we should sign LB Zach Brown
If they wanted Hankins back hed already be here
Somehow, I think we'll find the money for whomever we desire....  
SGMen : 3/16/2017 7:50 am : link
You can always do some work to get more money into play.
RE: Somehow, I think we'll find the money for whomever we desire....  
adamg : 3/16/2017 8:12 am : link
In comment 13394732 SGMen said:
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You can always do some work to get more money into play.


This. And if they sign Hanks to a multi-year deal, the money this year doesn't matter much at all.
RE: RE: Somehow, I think we'll find the money for whomever we desire....  
pjcas18 : 3/16/2017 8:44 am : link
In comment 13394743 adamg said:
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In comment 13394732 SGMen said:


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You can always do some work to get more money into play.



This. And if they sign Hanks to a multi-year deal, the money this year doesn't matter much at all.


I disagree with both these comments. There is a price to creating cap space. It's never a simple non-issue "the giants can sign anyone they want by creating space", it means changing the structure of a contract in a way you as the team did not originally want it written. And there was a reason it was written that way in the first place or cutting a player you as the team would rather not cut.

And the second comment about year 1 not mattering much at all? Where does that come from? Completely depends on the contract. Guys like Harris and Vereen signed for half or less of what Hankins is asking for and their respective cap hits this year ~5M and ~4M. So double that or at least multiple it times 1.5 to get in the Hankins vicinity.

Remember we will have a monster OBJ extension coming soon  
mfsd : 3/16/2017 8:48 am : link
creating immediate cap space by extending some of our cap hits into the next 2-3 years could end up really hamstringing us in the near future.

We may have to live with Hankins walking and make do with the second hand rack, like we did at LB last year
Why are you all obsessed with Hankins?  
djstat : 3/16/2017 12:04 pm : link
1. He played lousy in 2015 before injury
2. Played solid in 2016; Benefited from Snacks/OV/JPP. Bromley should be able to replace him

3. If you sign Hank long term how does that impact signing Pugh, OBJ, etc
If I read that right  
Cenotaph : 3/16/2017 12:18 pm : link
The projected $4.4M of cap room (less the contracts for Darkwa/Jerry) already includes the Rookie Pool allocation? He has about $5.5M in the list of cap spend by player for Draft Pool, in which case we're in a bit better shape (than I thought at least).

If the draft pool is accounted for, we don't need to free up nearly as much space - basically just for the FA's we sign plus a little wiggle room for in season moves, etc. Jerry and Darkwa probably take at least $3M or so of the remaining $4.4, which I'd guess leaves us around $1.5 - but there's easy $ to be had from cutting Thomas and even Harris, neither of whom would be missed much.
RE: Why are you all obsessed with Hankins?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/16/2017 12:52 pm : link
In comment 13395100 djstat said:
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1. He played lousy in 2015 before injury
2. Played solid in 2016; Benefited from Snacks/OV/JPP. Bromley should be able to replace him

3. If you sign Hank long term how does that impact signing Pugh, OBJ, etc


Bromley hasn't done anything to suggest that we don't have to question this.
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