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NFT: Mets Chat 3/16/2017-Wheels Up

DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 9:06 am
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Read that PT article a couple hours ago.  
arcarsenal : 3/17/2017 12:03 am : link
Not going to lie, I got a little dusty in the eyes at the end. I love that dude.

Signing him was so important to this franchise. Letting him get away would have been such a huge mistake. He looks primed for a monster year if he can avoid getting banged up.
Just realized Dan linked it up above  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 12:07 am : link
Totally missed it earlier. Whoops. Still awesome. Worth posting more than once. lol.
That article by Ces is a great read...ty  
Torrag : 3/17/2017 2:07 am : link
Go get 'em big guy.
Generally  
DanMetroMan : 3/17/2017 12:06 pm : link
unusually slow healing Nimmo is already active. Nice
.  
DanMetroMan : 3/17/2017 12:07 pm : link
Grandy CF
AsCab SS
Yo LF
Walker 2B
Bruce RF
Duda 1B
Flo 3B
TDA C
Matz P


Goeddel
Reed
Sewald
Blevins
Smoker
Actually on TV today!  
arcarsenal : 3/17/2017 12:08 pm : link
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RE: Generally  
Metnut : 3/17/2017 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13396622 DanMetroMan said:
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unusually slow healing Nimmo is already active. Nice


Amazing what the motivation of making an opening day roster for the big club can do!
As  
DanMetroMan : 3/17/2017 12:24 pm : link
of right now I'm predicting they carry 3 lefties opening day.
Edgin has allowed one hit  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 1:00 pm : link
In his last 6 appearances and his velocity has creeped up in his last appearance or two. Mayer had him at 93 yesterday. To me that actually makes Edgin and Blevins locks (because Edgin is out of options) and Smoker the favorite to beat out guys like Rowen and Sewald obviously (assuming they do want a long man).
*Sigh*  
sshin05 : 3/17/2017 1:19 pm : link
MLB Pipeline
Gabriel Ynoa, who's allowed 1 ER over 6 IP (3 outings) this #SpringTraining, starts for #Orioles
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DanMetroMan : 3/17/2017 1:29 pm : link
New York Mets‏Verified account @Mets 10s10 seconds ago
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RBI single for Jay Bruuuce!

2-0 #Mets | Bot-1
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DanMetroMan : 3/17/2017 1:33 pm : link
Michael Mayer‏ @themainemets 2m2 minutes ago
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Lucas Doubles Machine Duda hits his 5th of the spring.
Mets starters pounding Wainwright  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 1:35 pm : link
Flores double now.
Matz looks in peak form  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 1:41 pm : link
Around 94/95 with his fastball. Spotting his curveball. Threw a slider 92.
Damn and now a circle change away  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 1:45 pm : link
Have to be happy with our top 3 who all look raring to go. Of the backend guys Harvey has been a bit of a bummer but we should have known we were going to have to be patient. Wheeler is hitting 97. Gsellman has looked good. We'll see how Lugo does against USA, which is essentially an all-star team, shortly.
Matz  
sshin05 : 3/17/2017 1:49 pm : link
having control issues this inning.
RE: Matz  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 1:50 pm : link
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having control issues this inning.


Eh. One walk. You could tell he was trying to throw all 4 of his pitches and was working on them. His stuff looks nasty.
Wow, what a beating we put on Wainwright today.  
arcarsenal : 3/17/2017 2:11 pm : link
10 runs in 2 innings.
Grand slam Flores!  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 2:11 pm : link
10-1 of Wainwright! lol.
Not even 2 innings.. 1-2/3  
arcarsenal : 3/17/2017 2:11 pm : link
10 earned runs. Oof.
Mets are locked in today  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 2:15 pm : link
Wainwright had a bad day but when our hitters weren't belting the ball around the field they were doing the little things. Taking patient atbats, walking, hitting sac flys. Real nice to see.
Good I hate  
pjcas18 : 3/17/2017 2:16 pm : link
Wainwright, the Mets kind of own him, but I'll never forget 2006 NLCS and that nasty curve.

Good to see Flores tee off on a righty.
Cards have to be concerned about Wainright.  
Section331 : 3/17/2017 2:17 pm : link
4th start of the spring and throwing 85 MPH fastballs? Yikes.
RE: Cards have to be concerned about Wainright.  
sshin05 : 3/17/2017 2:21 pm : link
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4th start of the spring and throwing 85 MPH fastballs? Yikes.


Those were fastballs?? I thought they were change ups.
RE: RE: Matz  
sshin05 : 3/17/2017 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13396858 ZGiants98 said:
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having control issues this inning.



Eh. One walk. You could tell he was trying to throw all 4 of his pitches and was working on them. His stuff looks nasty.


Stuff wise he was fine just had trouble locating, getting into deep counts, etc
I can't say enough good things about Long  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 2:26 pm : link
If you consider that batting coaches have very little effect on hitters in general at all how good has this guy been? We have this discussion every year but every year there are more examples added to his ledger. Add Walker and Cabrera as two more examples. Both guys are coming off career years and both credit Long. Cespedes's patience at the plate is something he never had before coming here. He completely credits Long. Of course, we know about Murphy who's now a MVP candidate. Granderson was lost before reuniting with the guy and turning in the MVP Mets season of 2015. He's helped Duda hit lefties, Walker hit lefties.... Some of the video I watched this season with Conforto has me gushing.

All of this said, are we expecting a "Long effect" when it comes to Bruce? Almost every veteran has close to a career year here when teaming with the guy. Should we expect a slight bump? Will he be a little more patient? Will he buy in?
RE: RE: Cards have to be concerned about Wainright.  
Section331 : 3/17/2017 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13396929 sshin05 said:
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Those were fastballs?? I thought they were change ups.


To be fair, I wasn't watching closely, but Keith described them as FB's. He's been known to get details wrong, though
And to be clear...  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 2:31 pm : link
To put this in perspective the Mets went years and years and years with hitting instructors that seemed to have very little effect on anything. Im not saying hitting instructors dont help guys get out of slumps, tweak things, ect. but generally hitting instructors don't change hitters. It's unheard of actually. This isn't to say he's going to help every young player that comes through the system and change a guy like Lagares into an all-star but the results so far have been pretty staggering.

Robinson Cano is another player who credits Long. I mean you are talking about 3 players he has changed into MVP candidates and countless other examples of him at least helping guys. That's crazy.
Mets still hitting  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 2:34 pm : link
Cespedes RBI single.
Check out Long in the cage  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 2:39 pm : link
with Conforto on 30 clubs in 30 days.
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TDA 2 RBI single  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 2:44 pm : link
Every Met starter with a hit. 14-1 now.
Love that bit with Flores  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 2:50 pm : link
Keeps saying "My time will come, my time will come" and then referenced what happened to Justin Turner who was the same type of jack of all trades infielder before getting his chance. Love Wilmer's attitude.
Sorry that was a nice performance by Matz today...  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 2:52 pm : link
Sewald gets Gyorko.
Kelly Johnson  
spike : 3/17/2017 3:28 pm : link
when are we signing him up? Has his price dropped so we can keep TJ in AAA?
RE: Kelly Johnson  
DanMetroMan : 3/17/2017 3:29 pm : link
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when are we signing him up? Has his price dropped so we can keep TJ in AAA?


Reportedly prefers Atlanta if possible.
I thought it was a foregone  
pjcas18 : 3/17/2017 3:30 pm : link
conclusion he'd sign with Atlanta and then get traded at the deadline for the Mets 20th prospect.
Smoker  
DanMetroMan : 3/17/2017 3:38 pm : link
another scoreless. He's all but locked up a spot.
Z almost in regular season form  
Shecky : 3/17/2017 3:49 pm : link
Offense looks great today and all. But the team had ONE hit all game yesterday. And it was fair only by about a foot... lol
Not to be cruel but  
DanMetroMan : 3/17/2017 3:52 pm : link
I think he's shot

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Erik Goeddel getting hit hard yet again.
RE: Z almost in regular season form  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13397186 Shecky said:
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Offense looks great today and all. But the team had ONE hit all game yesterday. And it was fair only by about a foot... lol


Could care less about that. Im talking about tangible results Long has had with major league baseball hitters. I wasnt referring to spring training at all.
and Addson Reed with a dominant performance today  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 4:48 pm : link
Suck it Sheck. ;)
RE: Love that bit with Flores  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/17/2017 4:51 pm : link
In comment 13397020 ZGiants98 said:
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Keeps saying "My time will come, my time will come" and then referenced what happened to Justin Turner who was the same type of jack of all trades infielder before getting his chance. Love Wilmer's attitude.


Hopefully unlike Turner, he realizes his potential here and not immediately upon leaving.
RE: and Addson Reed with a dominant performance today  
Shecky : 3/17/2017 4:55 pm : link
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Suck it Sheck. ;)


HAAAAAA
From Wheeler....  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 4:59 pm : link
Im honestly ready to pitch right now, whether it be bullpen or starter, Wheeler said. I am ready to go as of right now. Its up to them, though, and whatever they say I am fine with.
RE: RE: Love that bit with Flores  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13397365 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Keeps saying "My time will come, my time will come" and then referenced what happened to Justin Turner who was the same type of jack of all trades infielder before getting his chance. Love Wilmer's attitude.



Hopefully unlike Turner, he realizes his potential here and not immediately upon leaving.


Going to be tough with Rosario, Cheech, and TJ all fighting for a spot or two. I could see him taking over at 3B though possibly and being a perennial 20 HR bat.
Collins essentially said after the game  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 5:14 pm : link
Flores wont be a super sub like Reyes and that he'll play primarily against lefties. Bleh.
Awful  
DanMetroMan : 3/17/2017 5:20 pm : link
numbers vs. righties. Let him earn it. Not saying he won't be WS contenders play "flawed" players to their strengths and limit playing them to their weaknesses. This is no longer "develop the young guys". It's produce.
Wilmer  
DanMetroMan : 3/17/2017 5:23 pm : link
last season 75 wRC+ vs. righties, TDA (horrendous season and all) 87
I know that but I just dont see how he'll  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 5:44 pm : link
ever improve against righties if he never gets the opportunity. He had a double, a grand slam, and a walk all off righties today. There was a stretch when Wright first went down last year where Flores heated up and was hitting righties and lefties for a few weeks and then he lost playing time and struggled again.

There's nothing we can do. I get that. I'd love to just see him left alone for a few months and see what he could do but it's not happening on this team unless many injuries hit.

Im also fine with being a guy that crushes lefties. There's usefulness in that alone.
Also Collins comments dont make much sense  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 5:46 pm : link
considering Reyes is the starter unless he is referring to when Wright comes back? If Reyes is the starter you would think Flores would have to be the first guy to give the infielders rest over somebody like Reynolds?
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