Wheeler extended spring? Can someone describe exactly what this means as far as it relates to the roster and when we might see him make his first start?
I'm really not counting on Wheeler for anything, but a good showing from him would still feel good. I kind of feel like the awesome showing from degrom has been countered by the mediocre harvey outings.
Anyone know how Lugo looked in his last WBC outing?
Wheeler extended spring? Can someone describe exactly what this means as far as it relates to the roster and when we might see him make his first start?
Lugo opens at AAA?
We won't see Wheeler until they have a need in the rotation and/or opt for a 6 man rotation. Lugo as of right now is ticketed for the AAA rotation with Sewald or Rowen the current favorites for last spot in the pen. The actual order in which they start is to be determined. For example Gsellman last pitched following Thor, does that mean he pitches the second game? I doubt it.
I'm really not counting on Wheeler for anything, but a good showing from him would still feel good. I kind of feel like the awesome showing from degrom has been countered by the mediocre harvey outings.
Anyone know how Lugo looked in his last WBC outing?
Lugo made one start and due to the ballpark pitched "backwards". Throwing mostly breaking stuff. Threw a ton of sinkers 88-90. Hard to take much from it as the pitchers were saying they had to deviate from their norm so hard to take a ton away from the performance.
No TV again today. Been in the office all week and not one game televised, so of course tomorrow's game is televised and I have to be in meetings all day. At least they are in Manhattan so get a chance to celebrate the High Holy Day afterwards anyway.
I guess that sums it up Dan. I get most of my Mets news here on BBI.
I was just browsing MMO and Warthen thinks Harvey can "pitch" at 92 - 93 and may gain a few ticks as he works his way up to it.
Would've like to have seen more of Bru-u-u-uce at 1B. Did they say if he had to make any kind of instinctive plays around the bag ?? Just Curious.
Shecky saw Bruce at 1b so he'd likely be able to answer that. Duda is a better player than Bruce and having a huge spring so far so Bruce at 1b is likely only in an emergency situation.
The good:
93-95. Offspeed looks good
The bad:3/4 batters hit the ball hard and far.
Results or the process will determine if you see it as glass half full or empty. Looks good to me.
it's progress.. he can work on mechanics and location as he progresses, but his velocity and off-speed seem to be in check. Now location and consistency to follow. I'm encouraged!!!
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Tim Tebow RBI double in his second minor league spring at-bat. Walter Rasquin with a deep double as well.
are going to take advantage of David Wright. They know his throwing was already diminished before this. THey have to think long and hard about making him a full-time bench player. If his back can't handle that then maybe he shouldn't be on the active roster. \
Seems like all the lefties are getting it together lately
Smoker supposedly looked great today striking out Harper on three pitches. Gorzelanny and Edgin have even looked good over their last 3-4 outings now even though I'm not a huge fan of either.
are going to take advantage of David Wright. They know his throwing was already diminished before this. THey have to think long and hard about making him a full-time bench player. If his back can't handle that then maybe he shouldn't be on the active roster. \
Yeah and I think Im ok with that. If he replaces Reynolds on the bench so be it. Reyes should start at 3B and Flores should still be the IF Super sub. As a fan of Wright and who he is I can live with him being a pinch hitter, maybe get a start or two against lefties only once in a while even if it restricts our flexibility a little.
Did I miss it or is Kelly Johnson still available?
are going to take advantage of David Wright. They know his throwing was already diminished before this. THey have to think long and hard about making him a full-time bench player. If his back can't handle that then maybe he shouldn't be on the active roster. \
Yeah and I think Im ok with that. If he replaces Reynolds on the bench so be it. Reyes should start at 3B and Flores should still be the IF Super sub. As a fan of Wright and who he is I can live with him being a pinch hitter, maybe get a start or two against lefties only once in a while even if it restricts our flexibility a little.
yeah I'm not saying he can't possibly get a few starts but I find it extremely hard to believe he's a better player than Jose Reyes (or Wilmer) given his current health. My mantra for this season will be all about the best roster (don't care about youth vs. veterans) and merit. Wheeler should open in extended either way because 125 innings means no way to manage that and have him go all season AND potentially playoffs. Monitor the innings now so it's not an issue later. It's not as if we know for sure Wheeler is better than Lugo. He very well might be but 6-7 starts from Lugo isn't going to bury the Mets.
exact same people calling for Wheeler opening day will be the same ones bitching that the Mets shut him down in August and that he's unavailable in Sept and October. Exact same people. Let him skip April in NYC where the weather can be iffy, build up that arm and have him locked, loaded and able to give a consistent 5-6+ innings come mid-May (or however the math works out).
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RE: Did I miss it or is Kelly Johnson still available?
I know he wants a major league deal but we are half way through spring training? Isn't it about time he latches on with somebody?
He is still available but I am not sure for how much longer. The Braves just lost backup outfielder Micah Johnson for several weeks so it is likely that they sign someone like Kelly Johnson or Angel Pagan.
Should be miles ahead of Edgin and Gorz.
He hit 96 and was on a different level than those other two.
Smoker should be a lock at this point. What does he have a sub 1 ERA this spring?? I actually think there is a chance they will carry 3 lefties while Familia suspended which might still yet make room for Edgin.
RE: RE: Did I miss it or is Kelly Johnson still available?
I know he wants a major league deal but we are half way through spring training? Isn't it about time he latches on with somebody?
He is still available but I am not sure for how much longer. The Braves just lost backup outfielder Micah Johnson for several weeks so it is likely that they sign someone like Kelly Johnson or Angel Pagan.
Everything Ive heard is that he's a family man and desperately would like to stay in Atlanta but that he also wants a major league deal. A million bucks and he's likely all yours.
If true he's making the team. Pen will be Reed, Salas, Smoker, Blevins, Robles, and Edgin. That's 6. Do they want a long man like Montero for the last spot? Could the brain trust get together and bring Lugo north last minute? Do they activate a spot for either Rowan or Sewald? Do they possibly carry 8 in April since they dont want to overwork the starters and there isnt a lot of off days? Time will tell.
We may need Lugo in the rotation to start the season.
Yeah we'll see. Some of the talk today made it seem like Harvey is likely still going to start in the rotation although Im not sure I agree with it. We have 2 weeks to see how it shakes out!
Not going to lie, I got a little dusty in the eyes at the end. I love that dude.
Signing him was so important to this franchise. Letting him get away would have been such a huge mistake. He looks primed for a monster year if he can avoid getting banged up.
In his last 6 appearances and his velocity has creeped up in his last appearance or two. Mayer had him at 93 yesterday. To me that actually makes Edgin and Blevins locks (because Edgin is out of options) and Smoker the favorite to beat out guys like Rowen and Sewald obviously (assuming they do want a long man).
Have to be happy with our top 3 who all look raring to go. Of the backend guys Harvey has been a bit of a bummer but we should have known we were going to have to be patient. Wheeler is hitting 97. Gsellman has looked good. We'll see how Lugo does against USA, which is essentially an all-star team, shortly.
Wainwright had a bad day but when our hitters weren't belting the ball around the field they were doing the little things. Taking patient atbats, walking, hitting sac flys. Real nice to see.
If you consider that batting coaches have very little effect on hitters in general at all how good has this guy been? We have this discussion every year but every year there are more examples added to his ledger. Add Walker and Cabrera as two more examples. Both guys are coming off career years and both credit Long. Cespedes's patience at the plate is something he never had before coming here. He completely credits Long. Of course, we know about Murphy who's now a MVP candidate. Granderson was lost before reuniting with the guy and turning in the MVP Mets season of 2015. He's helped Duda hit lefties, Walker hit lefties.... Some of the video I watched this season with Conforto has me gushing.
All of this said, are we expecting a "Long effect" when it comes to Bruce? Almost every veteran has close to a career year here when teaming with the guy. Should we expect a slight bump? Will he be a little more patient? Will he buy in?
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To put this in perspective the Mets went years and years and years with hitting instructors that seemed to have very little effect on anything. Im not saying hitting instructors dont help guys get out of slumps, tweak things, ect. but generally hitting instructors don't change hitters. It's unheard of actually. This isn't to say he's going to help every young player that comes through the system and change a guy like Lagares into an all-star but the results so far have been pretty staggering.
Robinson Cano is another player who credits Long. I mean you are talking about 3 players he has changed into MVP candidates and countless other examples of him at least helping guys. That's crazy.
Keeps saying "My time will come, my time will come" and then referenced what happened to Justin Turner who was the same type of jack of all trades infielder before getting his chance. Love Wilmer's attitude.
Sorry that was a nice performance by Matz today...
Offense looks great today and all. But the team had ONE hit all game yesterday. And it was fair only by about a foot... lol
Could care less about that. Im talking about tangible results Long has had with major league baseball hitters. I wasnt referring to spring training at all.
Keeps saying "My time will come, my time will come" and then referenced what happened to Justin Turner who was the same type of jack of all trades infielder before getting his chance. Love Wilmer's attitude.
Hopefully unlike Turner, he realizes his potential here and not immediately upon leaving.
RE: and Addson Reed with a dominant performance today
Im honestly ready to pitch right now, whether it be bullpen or starter, Wheeler said. I am ready to go as of right now. Its up to them, though, and whatever they say I am fine with.
Keeps saying "My time will come, my time will come" and then referenced what happened to Justin Turner who was the same type of jack of all trades infielder before getting his chance. Love Wilmer's attitude.
Hopefully unlike Turner, he realizes his potential here and not immediately upon leaving.
Going to be tough with Rosario, Cheech, and TJ all fighting for a spot or two. I could see him taking over at 3B though possibly and being a perennial 20 HR bat.
numbers vs. righties. Let him earn it. Not saying he won't be WS contenders play "flawed" players to their strengths and limit playing them to their weaknesses. This is no longer "develop the young guys". It's produce.
ever improve against righties if he never gets the opportunity. He had a double, a grand slam, and a walk all off righties today. There was a stretch when Wright first went down last year where Flores heated up and was hitting righties and lefties for a few weeks and then he lost playing time and struggled again.
There's nothing we can do. I get that. I'd love to just see him left alone for a few months and see what he could do but it's not happening on this team unless many injuries hit.
Im also fine with being a guy that crushes lefties. There's usefulness in that alone.
considering Reyes is the starter unless he is referring to when Wright comes back? If Reyes is the starter you would think Flores would have to be the first guy to give the infielders rest over somebody like Reynolds?
Thor, JdG, Matz, locked in.
Harvey then Gsellman?
Wheeler extended spring? Can someone describe exactly what this means as far as it relates to the roster and when we might see him make his first start?
Lugo opens at AAA?
Anyone know how Lugo looked in his last WBC outing?
Thor, JdG, Matz, locked in.
Harvey then Gsellman?
Wheeler extended spring? Can someone describe exactly what this means as far as it relates to the roster and when we might see him make his first start?
Lugo opens at AAA?
We won't see Wheeler until they have a need in the rotation and/or opt for a 6 man rotation. Lugo as of right now is ticketed for the AAA rotation with Sewald or Rowen the current favorites for last spot in the pen. The actual order in which they start is to be determined. For example Gsellman last pitched following Thor, does that mean he pitches the second game? I doubt it.
Anyone know how Lugo looked in his last WBC outing?
Lugo made one start and due to the ballpark pitched "backwards". Throwing mostly breaking stuff. Threw a ton of sinkers 88-90. Hard to take much from it as the pitchers were saying they had to deviate from their norm so hard to take a ton away from the performance.
Catching up with the week's activities....
What was Harvey's issue anyway ??
Any reports on Jay Bruce at 1B ??
Has Tebow left the building yet ??
Catching up with the week's activities....
What was Harvey's issue anyway ??
Any reports on Jay Bruce at 1B ??
Has Tebow left the building yet ??
Harvey had TOS surgery. A rib was removed
Bruce played 1b on Tuesday and did not commit any errors
Collins claims Tebow is done in MLB camp
I was just browsing MMO and Warthen thinks Harvey can "pitch" at 92 - 93 and may gain a few ticks as he works his way up to it.
Would've like to have seen more of Bru-u-u-uce at 1B. Did they say if he had to make any kind of instinctive plays around the bag ?? Just Curious.
I was just browsing MMO and Warthen thinks Harvey can "pitch" at 92 - 93 and may gain a few ticks as he works his way up to it.
Would've like to have seen more of Bru-u-u-uce at 1B. Did they say if he had to make any kind of instinctive plays around the bag ?? Just Curious.
Shecky saw Bruce at 1b so he'd likely be able to answer that. Duda is a better player than Bruce and having a huge spring so far so Bruce at 1b is likely only in an emergency situation.
Friday: Steven Matz
Saturday: Robert Gsellman
93-95. Offspeed looks good
The bad:3/4 batters hit the ball hard and far.
Results or the process will determine if you see it as glass half full or empty. Looks good to me.
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Man, it's good to be young, single, famous and rich...
93-95. Offspeed looks good
The bad:3/4 batters hit the ball hard and far.
Results or the process will determine if you see it as glass half full or empty. Looks good to me.
it's progress.. he can work on mechanics and location as he progresses, but his velocity and off-speed seem to be in check. Now location and consistency to follow. I'm encouraged!!!
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Tim Tebow RBI double in his second minor league spring at-bat. Walter Rasquin with a deep double as well.
Yeah and I think Im ok with that. If he replaces Reynolds on the bench so be it. Reyes should start at 3B and Flores should still be the IF Super sub. As a fan of Wright and who he is I can live with him being a pinch hitter, maybe get a start or two against lefties only once in a while even if it restricts our flexibility a little.
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are going to take advantage of David Wright. They know his throwing was already diminished before this. THey have to think long and hard about making him a full-time bench player. If his back can't handle that then maybe he shouldn't be on the active roster. \
Yeah and I think Im ok with that. If he replaces Reynolds on the bench so be it. Reyes should start at 3B and Flores should still be the IF Super sub. As a fan of Wright and who he is I can live with him being a pinch hitter, maybe get a start or two against lefties only once in a while even if it restricts our flexibility a little.
yeah I'm not saying he can't possibly get a few starts but I find it extremely hard to believe he's a better player than Jose Reyes (or Wilmer) given his current health. My mantra for this season will be all about the best roster (don't care about youth vs. veterans) and merit. Wheeler should open in extended either way because 125 innings means no way to manage that and have him go all season AND potentially playoffs. Monitor the innings now so it's not an issue later. It's not as if we know for sure Wheeler is better than Lugo. He very well might be but 6-7 starts from Lugo isn't going to bury the Mets.
Terry said no decision regarding Wheeler. But plan has been for him to start year in extended spring. He has innings limit.
He hit 96 and was on a different level than those other two.
He hit 96 and was on a different level than those other two.
Smoker might actually be a guy you WANT out there vs. a guy like Harper. The other 2 are cringeworthy. Gorz in particular looks horrible.
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He is still available but I am not sure for how much longer. The Braves just lost backup outfielder Micah Johnson for several weeks so it is likely that they sign someone like Kelly Johnson or Angel Pagan.
He hit 96 and was on a different level than those other two.
Smoker should be a lock at this point. What does he have a sub 1 ERA this spring?? I actually think there is a chance they will carry 3 lefties while Familia suspended which might still yet make room for Edgin.
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I know he wants a major league deal but we are half way through spring training? Isn't it about time he latches on with somebody?
He is still available but I am not sure for how much longer. The Braves just lost backup outfielder Micah Johnson for several weeks so it is likely that they sign someone like Kelly Johnson or Angel Pagan.
Everything Ive heard is that he's a family man and desperately would like to stay in Atlanta but that he also wants a major league deal. A million bucks and he's likely all yours.
Yeah we'll see. Some of the talk today made it seem like Harvey is likely still going to start in the rotation although Im not sure I agree with it. We have 2 weeks to see how it shakes out!
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Signing him was so important to this franchise. Letting him get away would have been such a huge mistake. He looks primed for a monster year if he can avoid getting banged up.
AsCab SS
Yo LF
Walker 2B
Bruce RF
Duda 1B
Flo 3B
TDA C
Matz P
Goeddel
Reed
Sewald
Blevins
Smoker
Amazing what the motivation of making an opening day roster for the big club can do!
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RBI single for Jay Bruuuce!
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Lucas Doubles Machine Duda hits his 5th of the spring.
Eh. One walk. You could tell he was trying to throw all 4 of his pitches and was working on them. His stuff looks nasty.
Good to see Flores tee off on a righty.
Those were fastballs?? I thought they were change ups.
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having control issues this inning.
Eh. One walk. You could tell he was trying to throw all 4 of his pitches and was working on them. His stuff looks nasty.
Stuff wise he was fine just had trouble locating, getting into deep counts, etc
All of this said, are we expecting a "Long effect" when it comes to Bruce? Almost every veteran has close to a career year here when teaming with the guy. Should we expect a slight bump? Will he be a little more patient? Will he buy in?
Those were fastballs?? I thought they were change ups.
To be fair, I wasn't watching closely, but Keith described them as FB's. He's been known to get details wrong, though
Robinson Cano is another player who credits Long. I mean you are talking about 3 players he has changed into MVP candidates and countless other examples of him at least helping guys. That's crazy.
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Reportedly prefers Atlanta if possible.
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Erik Goeddel getting hit hard yet again.
Could care less about that. Im talking about tangible results Long has had with major league baseball hitters. I wasnt referring to spring training at all.
Hopefully unlike Turner, he realizes his potential here and not immediately upon leaving.
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Keeps saying "My time will come, my time will come" and then referenced what happened to Justin Turner who was the same type of jack of all trades infielder before getting his chance. Love Wilmer's attitude.
Hopefully unlike Turner, he realizes his potential here and not immediately upon leaving.
Going to be tough with Rosario, Cheech, and TJ all fighting for a spot or two. I could see him taking over at 3B though possibly and being a perennial 20 HR bat.
There's nothing we can do. I get that. I'd love to just see him left alone for a few months and see what he could do but it's not happening on this team unless many injuries hit.
Im also fine with being a guy that crushes lefties. There's usefulness in that alone.