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DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 9:06 am
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So how does the pitching line up when  
Chris684 : 3/16/2017 9:21 am : link
they head north?

Thor, JdG, Matz, locked in.

Harvey then Gsellman?

Wheeler extended spring? Can someone describe exactly what this means as far as it relates to the roster and when we might see him make his first start?

Lugo opens at AAA?
As I said the the other night  
Rob in Rockaway : 3/16/2017 9:23 am : link
I'm really not counting on Wheeler for anything, but a good showing from him would still feel good. I kind of feel like the awesome showing from degrom has been countered by the mediocre harvey outings.

Anyone know how Lugo looked in his last WBC outing?
RE: So how does the pitching line up when  
DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 9:25 am : link
In comment 13394819 Chris684 said:
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they head north?

Thor, JdG, Matz, locked in.

Harvey then Gsellman?

Wheeler extended spring? Can someone describe exactly what this means as far as it relates to the roster and when we might see him make his first start?

Lugo opens at AAA?


We won't see Wheeler until they have a need in the rotation and/or opt for a 6 man rotation. Lugo as of right now is ticketed for the AAA rotation with Sewald or Rowen the current favorites for last spot in the pen. The actual order in which they start is to be determined. For example Gsellman last pitched following Thor, does that mean he pitches the second game? I doubt it.
RE: As I said the the other night  
DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 9:32 am : link
In comment 13394824 Rob in Rockaway said:
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I'm really not counting on Wheeler for anything, but a good showing from him would still feel good. I kind of feel like the awesome showing from degrom has been countered by the mediocre harvey outings.

Anyone know how Lugo looked in his last WBC outing?


Lugo made one start and due to the ballpark pitched "backwards". Throwing mostly breaking stuff. Threw a ton of sinkers 88-90. Hard to take much from it as the pitchers were saying they had to deviate from their norm so hard to take a ton away from the performance.
Thanks Dan  
Rob in Rockaway : 3/16/2017 9:40 am : link
No TV again today. Been in the office all week and not one game televised, so of course tomorrow's game is televised and I have to be in meetings all day. At least they are in Manhattan so get a chance to celebrate the High Holy Day afterwards anyway.
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Named Later : 3/16/2017 10:52 am : link
I really don't like this WBC. Not Interested At All.

Catching up with the week's activities....
What was Harvey's issue anyway ??

Any reports on Jay Bruce at 1B ??

Has Tebow left the building yet ??

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DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 10:58 am : link
In comment 13394979 Named Later said:
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I really don't like this WBC. Not Interested At All.

Catching up with the week's activities....
What was Harvey's issue anyway ??

Any reports on Jay Bruce at 1B ??

Has Tebow left the building yet ??


Harvey had TOS surgery. A rib was removed

Bruce played 1b on Tuesday and did not commit any errors

Collins claims Tebow is done in MLB camp
Be tied up  
Shecky : 3/16/2017 11:05 am : link
But I'll try to keep updated if I can.
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Named Later : 3/16/2017 11:07 am : link
I guess that sums it up Dan. I get most of my Mets news here on BBI.

I was just browsing MMO and Warthen thinks Harvey can "pitch" at 92 - 93 and may gain a few ticks as he works his way up to it.

Would've like to have seen more of Bru-u-u-uce at 1B. Did they say if he had to make any kind of instinctive plays around the bag ?? Just Curious.
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DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 11:13 am : link
In comment 13395001 Named Later said:
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I guess that sums it up Dan. I get most of my Mets news here on BBI.

I was just browsing MMO and Warthen thinks Harvey can "pitch" at 92 - 93 and may gain a few ticks as he works his way up to it.

Would've like to have seen more of Bru-u-u-uce at 1B. Did they say if he had to make any kind of instinctive plays around the bag ?? Just Curious.


Shecky saw Bruce at 1b so he'd likely be able to answer that. Duda is a better player than Bruce and having a huge spring so far so Bruce at 1b is likely only in an emergency situation.
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DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 12:36 pm : link
Today: Zack Wheeler
Friday: Steven Matz
Saturday: Robert Gsellman
Zack  
Shecky : 3/16/2017 1:21 pm : link
The good:
93-95. Offspeed looks good
The bad:3/4 batters hit the ball hard and far.

Results or the process will determine if you see it as glass half full or empty. Looks good to me.
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DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 1:25 pm : link
Cool article via noted scribe @ynscspds #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 1:30 pm : link
@MattHarvey33 Props #Mets
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Hit 97  
Shecky : 3/16/2017 1:39 pm : link
In 2nd. Offspeed just missing. But nasty one to last batter. Again. Good with the bad. Not fooling anyone till last one.
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speedywheels : 3/16/2017 1:41 pm : link
In comment 13395232 DanMetroMan said:
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@MattHarvey33 Props #Mets Link - ( New Window )


Man, it's good to be young, single, famous and rich...
RE: Zack  
feelflows : 3/16/2017 1:48 pm : link
In comment 13395221 Shecky said:
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The good:
93-95. Offspeed looks good
The bad:3/4 batters hit the ball hard and far.

Results or the process will determine if you see it as glass half full or empty. Looks good to me.


it's progress.. he can work on mechanics and location as he progresses, but his velocity and off-speed seem to be in check. Now location and consistency to follow. I'm encouraged!!!
Gimenez  
Shecky : 3/16/2017 2:48 pm : link
Replacing Asdrubal after finally getting teams first hit. Cabrera would have had a HR earlier if not for the wind.
Wheeler  
Shecky : 3/16/2017 2:49 pm : link
Hesitant to admit it, but finally believes it. Lol
Alonso  
Shecky : 3/16/2017 2:51 pm : link
In for Duda. So hello to the low A Ball Mets lol
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DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 2:59 pm : link
Michael Mayer‏ @themainemets 1h1 hour ago
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Tim Tebow RBI double in his second minor league spring at-bat. Walter Rasquin with a deep double as well.
Tebow is on fire!  
ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 4:42 pm : link
Keep the dream alive! lol
and Wheeler hitting 97 is awesome  
ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 4:43 pm : link
I dont care what anyone else says. lol. That guy has been through hell.
According to DiComo  
ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 4:44 pm : link
Nimmo is close to 100% and could be in the lineup as soon as the day after tomorrow.
David Wright is running, fielding, and hitting....  
ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 4:47 pm : link
Doing everything but throwing at the moment.
Teams  
DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 4:49 pm : link
are going to take advantage of David Wright. They know his throwing was already diminished before this. THey have to think long and hard about making him a full-time bench player. If his back can't handle that then maybe he shouldn't be on the active roster. \
Seems like all the lefties are getting it together lately  
ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 4:58 pm : link
Smoker supposedly looked great today striking out Harper on three pitches. Gorzelanny and Edgin have even looked good over their last 3-4 outings now even though I'm not a huge fan of either.
RE: Teams  
ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13395566 DanMetroMan said:
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are going to take advantage of David Wright. They know his throwing was already diminished before this. THey have to think long and hard about making him a full-time bench player. If his back can't handle that then maybe he shouldn't be on the active roster. \


Yeah and I think Im ok with that. If he replaces Reynolds on the bench so be it. Reyes should start at 3B and Flores should still be the IF Super sub. As a fan of Wright and who he is I can live with him being a pinch hitter, maybe get a start or two against lefties only once in a while even if it restricts our flexibility a little.
Did I miss it or is Kelly Johnson still available?  
ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 5:02 pm : link
I know he wants a major league deal but we are half way through spring training? Isn't it about time he latches on with somebody?
RE: RE: Teams  
DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 5:04 pm : link
In comment 13395578 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 13395566 DanMetroMan said:


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are going to take advantage of David Wright. They know his throwing was already diminished before this. THey have to think long and hard about making him a full-time bench player. If his back can't handle that then maybe he shouldn't be on the active roster. \



Yeah and I think Im ok with that. If he replaces Reynolds on the bench so be it. Reyes should start at 3B and Flores should still be the IF Super sub. As a fan of Wright and who he is I can live with him being a pinch hitter, maybe get a start or two against lefties only once in a while even if it restricts our flexibility a little.


yeah I'm not saying he can't possibly get a few starts but I find it extremely hard to believe he's a better player than Jose Reyes (or Wilmer) given his current health. My mantra for this season will be all about the best roster (don't care about youth vs. veterans) and merit. Wheeler should open in extended either way because 125 innings means no way to manage that and have him go all season AND potentially playoffs. Monitor the innings now so it's not an issue later. It's not as if we know for sure Wheeler is better than Lugo. He very well might be but 6-7 starts from Lugo isn't going to bury the Mets.
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ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 5:05 pm : link
Matt Ehalt @MattEhalt
Terry said no decision regarding Wheeler. But plan has been for him to start year in extended spring. He has innings limit.
Totally agree  
ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 5:05 pm : link
Dan.
The  
DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 5:08 pm : link
exact same people calling for Wheeler opening day will be the same ones bitching that the Mets shut him down in August and that he's unavailable in Sept and October. Exact same people. Let him skip April in NYC where the weather can be iffy, build up that arm and have him locked, loaded and able to give a consistent 5-6+ innings come mid-May (or however the math works out).
Smoker  
Shecky : 3/16/2017 5:23 pm : link
Should be miles ahead of Edgin and Gorz.
He hit 96 and was on a different level than those other two.
RE: Smoker  
DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 5:24 pm : link
In comment 13395613 Shecky said:
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Should be miles ahead of Edgin and Gorz.
He hit 96 and was on a different level than those other two.


Smoker might actually be a guy you WANT out there vs. a guy like Harper. The other 2 are cringeworthy. Gorz in particular looks horrible.
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DanMetroMan : 3/16/2017 5:27 pm : link
NY Daily News Sports‏Verified account @NYDNSports 7m7 minutes ago
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David Wright unlikely to play in game again this spring and more @Mets notes from @Ackert_NYDN
RE: Did I miss it or is Kelly Johnson still available?  
Jay on the Island : 3/16/2017 5:27 pm : link
In comment 13395581 ZGiants98 said:
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I know he wants a major league deal but we are half way through spring training? Isn't it about time he latches on with somebody?

He is still available but I am not sure for how much longer. The Braves just lost backup outfielder Micah Johnson for several weeks so it is likely that they sign someone like Kelly Johnson or Angel Pagan.
RE: Smoker  
ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 9:36 pm : link
In comment 13395613 Shecky said:
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Should be miles ahead of Edgin and Gorz.
He hit 96 and was on a different level than those other two.


Smoker should be a lock at this point. What does he have a sub 1 ERA this spring?? I actually think there is a chance they will carry 3 lefties while Familia suspended which might still yet make room for Edgin.
RE: RE: Did I miss it or is Kelly Johnson still available?  
ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 9:37 pm : link
In comment 13395619 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13395581 ZGiants98 said:


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I know he wants a major league deal but we are half way through spring training? Isn't it about time he latches on with somebody?


He is still available but I am not sure for how much longer. The Braves just lost backup outfielder Micah Johnson for several weeks so it is likely that they sign someone like Kelly Johnson or Angel Pagan.


Everything Ive heard is that he's a family man and desperately would like to stay in Atlanta but that he also wants a major league deal. A million bucks and he's likely all yours.
Actually I just read Edgin hit 93 mph today.  
ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 11:36 pm : link
If true he's making the team. Pen will be Reed, Salas, Smoker, Blevins, Robles, and Edgin. That's 6. Do they want a long man like Montero for the last spot? Could the brain trust get together and bring Lugo north last minute? Do they activate a spot for either Rowan or Sewald? Do they possibly carry 8 in April since they dont want to overwork the starters and there isnt a lot of off days? Time will tell.
We may need Lugo in the rotation to start the season.  
arcarsenal : 3/16/2017 11:42 pm : link
I could see Harvey needing extended ST.
RE: We may need Lugo in the rotation to start the season.  
ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 11:57 pm : link
In comment 13395944 arcarsenal said:
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I could see Harvey needing extended ST.


Yeah we'll see. Some of the talk today made it seem like Harvey is likely still going to start in the rotation although Im not sure I agree with it. We have 2 weeks to see how it shakes out!
Awesome article by Yoenis Cespedes  
ZGiants98 : 3/16/2017 11:58 pm : link
in the player's tribune. Must read IMO. Love this dude.
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Read that PT article a couple hours ago.  
arcarsenal : 3/17/2017 12:03 am : link
Not going to lie, I got a little dusty in the eyes at the end. I love that dude.

Signing him was so important to this franchise. Letting him get away would have been such a huge mistake. He looks primed for a monster year if he can avoid getting banged up.
Just realized Dan linked it up above  
ZGiants98 : 3/17/2017 12:07 am : link
Totally missed it earlier. Whoops. Still awesome. Worth posting more than once. lol.
That article by Ces is a great read...ty  
Torrag : 3/17/2017 2:07 am : link
Go get 'em big guy.
Generally  
DanMetroMan : 3/17/2017 12:06 pm : link
unusually slow healing Nimmo is already active. Nice
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DanMetroMan : 3/17/2017 12:07 pm : link
Grandy CF
AsCab SS
Yo LF
Walker 2B
Bruce RF
Duda 1B
Flo 3B
TDA C
Matz P


Goeddel
Reed
Sewald
Blevins
Smoker
Actually on TV today!  
arcarsenal : 3/17/2017 12:08 pm : link
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RE: Generally  
Metnut : 3/17/2017 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13396622 DanMetroMan said:
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unusually slow healing Nimmo is already active. Nice


Amazing what the motivation of making an opening day roster for the big club can do!
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