Brace for the win tonight.
Last night was another step closer in sorting out the playoff hunt.
-Wizards drop to Mavs at home, Boston is building a comfortable lead (and supposedly has the easiest remaining schedule in the NBA)
-Barnes 22 and 9, Dirk 20. Wall 26 and 11, Beal 24 and 5
-Paul George with 39. Frank the tank with 20, but of course Charlotte got dominated on the glass.
-IT with 27, horford a near triple double (20, 8 and 9). Rubio 23 and 7
-Hayward 25, 6 and 9.
-Miami wants a playoff spot. Dragic 33, Whiteside 20 and 17. AD 27,8 and 3
-Portland beats SA in SA. Dame 36, CJ 26, Nurk 16 and 9 (but with possible the worst 90 second stretch of basketball I've ever seen. With 2 minutes to go, he misses 3 layup/dunks, misses 2 free throws, missed 2 defensive rotations, inexplicably fumbled another easy layup out of bounds and threw away an inbounds pass to allow SAS back into the game).
-Kawhi 34, 6 and 9. 3 st;s and 2 blks. LMA made a return, good to see things are alright with him
-Houston routs LAL as anyone could've called. Harden trip doub. Luu Williams with 30 and 7. Randle with 32.
-Grizz beat Bulls. Can't imagine thats a fun game to watch. Gasol/Conley with 27 and 7
-Milwaukee also wants a playoff spot. They are like 15 and 4 when Middleton plays, and he's been on a minutes restriction until late. Beating good teams too.
-The crap bowl: Kings move ahead of us in the standings.
-Skal with 32 and 11. he's a very real NBA player.
-WCS 14, 14, 5. 4 steals and 4 blocks
Love Zubac. He plays differently than Willy, has these nice touch floaters in space but gets similar results as Willy
Isaac came in at #6, Smith #4, Tatum 5, Fox 8, Frenchy 10, Williams 11
Caleb Swanigan (maybe slips to the 2nd round pick) @7:30.
For the Knicks I'm not so sure I'd consider monk considerably over Dwayne Bacon. I find it hard to believe all these traditional, post up centers that aren't touted as rim protectors would go over a strong 3 and D prospect in the back end of the lottery.
Isaac came in at #6, Smith #4, Tatum 5, Fox 8, Frenchy 10, Williams 11
Were the others Monk and Markkanen, or did someone sneak it.
That seems to be a somewhat consistent top 11. Will be interesting to see which players rise into that group through good tourney/workouts (and who falls when their game gets picked apart or injury history becomes known).
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did a "consensus poll" with Givony, Ford and a few others
Isaac came in at #6, Smith #4, Tatum 5, Fox 8, Frenchy 10, Williams 11
Were the others Monk and Markkanen, or did someone sneak it.
That seems to be a somewhat consistent top 11. Will be interesting to see which players rise into that group through good tourney/workouts (and who falls when their game gets picked apart or injury history becomes known).
Monk was 7 (though on twitter his own opinion was that Monk reminded him of Lou Williams)
Markkanen was 8
I'd take Markkanen over Monk 10/10 times (I recognize the fit being rough but one COULD be a star, and I think that's Markkanen). Legit 3 point range + that Dirk-like fallback release. I could dream on teams bitching about the Knicks 2 7 foot bombers.
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did a "consensus poll" with Givony, Ford and a few others
Isaac came in at #6, Smith #4, Tatum 5, Fox 8, Frenchy 10, Williams 11
Were the others Monk and Markkanen, or did someone sneak it.
That seems to be a somewhat consistent top 11. Will be interesting to see which players rise into that group through good tourney/workouts (and who falls when their game gets picked apart or injury history becomes known).
Monk was 7 (though on twitter his own opinion was that Monk reminded him of Lou Williams)
Markkanen was 8
I'd take Markkanen over Monk 10/10 times (I recognize the fit being rough but one COULD be a star, and I think that's Markkanen). Legit 3 point range + that Dirk-like fallback release. I could dream on teams bitching about the Knicks 2 7 foot bombers.
if you can find the right point guard markannen and kp would be dangerous..
how long would willy be ok coming iff the bench though?
also how would it work defensively
Again, Willy is fantastic and should be praised and looked as a piece for the future, but let's not get ahead of ourselves about "will he be OK coming off the bench".
This team is still abysmal defensively with Willy at the center. Enes Kanter seems pretty ok about coming off the bench, Willy should as well if it comes to that.
Again, Willy is fantastic and should be praised and looked as a piece for the future, but let's not get ahead of ourselves about "will he be OK coming off the bench".
This team is still abysmal defensively with Willy at the center. Enes Kanter seems pretty ok about coming off the bench, Willy should as well if it comes to that.
your right probably getting ahead of myself on that part
Yup, but at the same time you don't neglect looking at a center who provides different skills solely because of Willy. I still hold KP to a higher pedigree, but I don't think Markannen should 100% be overlooked, either. If he has a higher chance of becoming a star than other guys, it is still a good problem to have.
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think I would just "worry about" stuff like that later.
Yup, but at the same time you don't neglect looking at a center who provides different skills solely because of Willy. I still hold KP to a higher pedigree, but I don't think Markannen should 100% be overlooked, either. If he has a higher chance of becoming a star than other guys, it is still a good problem to have.
Markannen is pretty damn impressive. Legit 7 feet tall 43% from 3, 7 rebounds, 82% from the line, love his shot, love it, quick release, form all of it. He's not a freak athlete but runs the court very well for a legit 7 footer.
Lol
Hornacek said he will continue to play his veterans unless management tells him to play the younger guys.
"management" sucks.
Markannen is pretty damn impressive. Legit 7 feet tall 43% from 3, 7 rebounds, 82% from the line, love his shot, love it, quick release, form all of it. He's not a freak athlete but runs the court very well for a legit 7 footer.
I agree. Im gravitating more towards him and Isaac due to shooting. It's what everyone needs. No one ever asks "how am I going to work this good shooter into my offense".
I hope they lose, but losing to the Nets twice in a week can't be good for anyone's job security.
While I wasn't expecting this loss tonight, I still think they win 3 more games.
Ben Stiller looks like he wants in on whatever Hornacek decides to do tonight.
Yes, Im rooting for losses. But the players arent. What an embarrassment.
Or maybe he's content just being in NY on a loser team.
I don't see how they win another road game.
Right now, we're in 6th place.
keeping baker in was huge, he was god awful.tonight and hornacek stuck with him
Knicks have had losing seasons in 13 of the last 16 years.
Or maybe he's content just being in NY on a loser team.
I really wonder what is going through his head also..
I have to imagine he will be traded..
But I honestly think he's content and wants to play here and nowhere else
Culture will eventually breed greatness.
I don't think its out of hand to feel better about the 2020 nets then the 2020 knicks
Swanigan with 16, 14 and 4, 3 blocks.
First round still, all going against crappy schools, but monitoring nonetheless.
Culture will eventually breed greatness.
I don't think its out of hand to feel better about the 2020 nets then the 2020 knicks
No, it's extremely out of hand. Unless "culture" counts for 15 wins in itself. Lopez will go somewhere else and the Nets won't crack 30 wins for another 5 years.
On the other hand, the Knicks will crack 30 wins this season.
I wouldn't trade being a browns fan or a TB rays fan with being a Nets fan. There's no American professional sports team with a bleaker outlook than the Brooklyn Nets.
Try getting a board over Willy/KP/Isaac (post-weight room and a few NY strips).
Culture will eventually breed greatness.
I don't think its out of hand to feel better about the 2020 nets then the 2020 knicks
Your theory is that Jeremy Lin is a 10 win player?
In any event, the Nets have no young stud and dont own their 2017 and 2018 picks. New free agency rules make it very hard to acquire star players. So your only argument could be that the Knicks utterly blow it over the next 4 years, both losing and not reaping rewards from the draft. Oh, shit...
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They are a bottom tier team but with Lin they are a mid twenties win team (still brutal)
Culture will eventually breed greatness.
I don't think its out of hand to feel better about the 2020 nets then the 2020 knicks
Your theory is that Jeremy Lin is a 10 win player?
In any event, the Nets have no young stud and dont own their 2017 and 2018 picks. New free agency rules make it very hard to acquire star players. So your only argument could be that the Knicks utterly blow it over the next 4 years, both losing and not reaping rewards from the draft. Oh, shit...
Yes Jeremy Lin can account for a +5/10 in the standings column with the alternative the Nets were trotting out. Sean Kilkpatrick? Sean Dinwiddie? The added factor of the Lin/Lopez combo on the pnr alone helps swing games/momentum for the Nets. Plus there bench has been playing better with Lin back. The Nets are a shit team but they aren't as shitty as everyone thinks.
Jeremy Lin is no more a 10 win player than Carmelo is an All-NBA defender.
Culture will eventually breed greatness.
I don't think its out of hand to feel better about the 2020 nets then the 2020 knicks
Your obsession with the Nets "culture" is absolutely hysterical. I mean, I guess it's all you have, since the team is abysmal and has no picks until 2049, but I think it's a bit much. No, it's a lot much.
Jeremy Lin is no more a 10 win player than Carmelo is an All-NBA defender.
"This season, the Nets are 7-16 with Lin, whos been on minutes restriction all season long, and 6-38 without him."
All I'm saying is, you can make the argument hitdog is making easily. There's evidence to back it up.
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That's pretty scant evidence. We know what a 10 win player looks like, and it's not Lin. If it was Lin, he wouldnt be on his 6th team in 7 years.
That's pretty scant evidence. We know what a 10 win player looks like, and it's not Lin. If it was Lin, he wouldnt be on his 6th team in 7 years.
Okay you are right. Screw the facts just presented to you. Because he beat the Knicks twice, not like other "10 win players" face the Knicks right? Nevermind that a 10 win player on a team with little talent is probably different from a 10 win player on a team like the Spurs, for example. When the guy plays, he matched the Nets win total for the entire season in half the games played. He improves the Nets, that was the entire point of the comment to begin with.
also i dont care how good your culture is, if you do not have the players you are not going to win and no one is leaving money on the table to go to the nets..
also they will not control their first round picks so how do you expect to get a young stud and build your team?
knicks already have a young stud and are going to add to it this year and probably next year, so they would already be ahead of the nets by 3 years in their rebuild..
nets rebuild wont start until after next season
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That's pretty scant evidence. We know what a 10 win player looks like, and it's not Lin. If it was Lin, he wouldnt be on his 6th team in 7 years.
Okay you are right. Screw the facts just presented to you. Because he beat the Knicks twice, not like other "10 win players" face the Knicks right? Nevermind that a 10 win player on a team with little talent is probably different from a 10 win player on a team like the Spurs, for example. When the guy plays, he matched the Nets win total for the entire season in half the games played. He improves the Nets, that was the entire point of the comment to begin with.
Let's take that logic you are using.
The Mavericks started the season 17-30.
The Mavericks are 12-8 since they signed Yogi Ferrell. Using those win %s over an 82 game season, yogi is therefore a 20 win player.
The Nets fucking cut a 20 win player who is 23 years old, 10 games into the season.
What a joke of an organization.
Forget Lin, the nets are a 0 win team without brook. That's the logic you are using.
The Nets are 5 years from being where the Orlando Magic and the Sacramento Kings are right now. Buckle up, it's going to be a rough, rough ride. If you are a Nets fan, now is the time to advocate theories like the NBA is rigged or how the players don't care about playing hard. Not that the Nets are onto something big.
Go root for the browns in the meantime. They have more hope.