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NFT: NCAA Tournament Thursday

Crispino : 3/16/2017 10:56 am
It begins in earnest today.

Some interesting matchups:
Princeton-ND
Bucknell-WV
East Tennessee-Florida
Middle Tennessee-Minnesota
Xavier -Maryland
Vermont-Purdue
VaTech-Wisconsin

I love these next two days!

Just finished my bracket.  
Miami_JintsFan : 3/16/2017 11:17 am : link
I've got all chalk in today's games except MTSU, which is probably the most popular low seed pick today.

Some upsets down the road I have SMU beating Duke and Purdue over Kansas.

My final four is Nova, Zona, Louisville and UCLA. Zona winning it all.
someone told  
Les in TO : 3/16/2017 11:28 am : link
me recently that a number of hospitals see a regular spike in vasectomies performed during the Monday-Wednesday preceding the tournament (so that the patients can take time off of work to recover on the Thursday/Friday). I have no idea if that's true or not, but I may have to consider that if I'm in the market in the next 3-5 years which is a distinct possibility!
Bonzie Colson for ND  
Metnut : 3/16/2017 11:32 am : link
has been in a boot most of the week after an ankle injury suffered vs Duke. He said he's good to go and will play, so hopefully he's effective even if not 100%. He's ND's best mismatch vs Princeton so it would hurt if he can't bring it today.
Leading up to the games, I'm watching the...  
Crispino : 3/16/2017 11:33 am : link
30 for 30 Survive and Advance about Jimmy V. and the '83 NC State Championship. It's a fantastic, inspiring piece.
I've got a Final Four of Nova, West Virginia, Louisville and UNC  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 11:39 am : link
Final of Louisville over Nova.
WVU..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/16/2017 11:40 am : link
is losing today, Greg!
Unbelievable  
JB_GMEN : 3/16/2017 11:43 am : link
The CBS website is down. WTF
RE: Unbelievable  
Harvest Blend : 3/16/2017 11:46 am : link
In comment 13395052 JB_GMEN said:
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The CBS website is down. WTF


Yup, knew I should not have waited. Oh well.
RE: WVU..  
Anakim : 3/16/2017 11:48 am : link
In comment 13395048 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is losing today, Greg!


I have Press Virginia going to the Finals
RE: I've got a Final Four of Nova, West Virginia, Louisville and UNC  
Anakim : 3/16/2017 11:48 am : link
In comment 13395044 Greg from LI said:
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Final of Louisville over Nova.


I've got Purdue, West Virginia, Kentucky and Duke for the Final Four and Kentucky over West Virginia in the Finals
RE: someone told  
MetsAreBack : 3/16/2017 11:52 am : link
In comment 13395031 Les in TO said:
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me recently that a number of hospitals see a regular spike in vasectomies performed during the Monday-Wednesday preceding the tournament (so that the patients can take time off of work to recover on the Thursday/Friday).


I'm pretty sure thats a myth... but regardless, taking an entire week off for a vasectomy? Pfft... that's a 48 hour thing.
RE: RE: I've got a Final Four of Nova, West Virginia, Louisville and UNC  
MetsAreBack : 3/16/2017 11:52 am : link
In comment 13395062 Anakim said:
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In comment 13395044 Greg from LI said:


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Final of Louisville over Nova.



I've got Purdue, West Virginia, Kentucky and Duke for the Final Four and Kentucky over West Virginia in the Finals



Yeah, UCLA is obviously a good team but i doubt they can go to Memphis and beat both Kentucky and UNC on basically a road floor.
RE: RE: someone told  
YAJ2112 : 3/16/2017 11:54 am : link
In comment 13395066 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 13395031 Les in TO said:


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me recently that a number of hospitals see a regular spike in vasectomies performed during the Monday-Wednesday preceding the tournament (so that the patients can take time off of work to recover on the Thursday/Friday).



I'm pretty sure thats a myth... but regardless, taking an entire week off for a vasectomy? Pfft... that's a 48 hour thing.


Right, operation on Weds, rest Thurs/Fri
UCLA will flame out  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 11:55 am : link
I feel rock-solid on that one. They play no defense whatsoever. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cincy knock them off.
yeah i mislinked  
MetsAreBack : 3/16/2017 11:57 am : link
it was Miami-jints that's feeling UCLA, not you.


One of these years I'm getting to Vegas for this initial weekend. The sports books must be insane today through sunday.
I think I  
Metnut : 3/16/2017 11:58 am : link
have the most boring final four ever. Duke, Arizona, UNC and Kansas with UNC beating Duke in the final game. I'll need to get at least 3 of the final four, and the whole title game, right to win the $$$.

I tend to root for upsets regardless of my bracket so I'd still be really happy if Duke or Kansas got bounced early.

Off to the bar to see if ND can not be the first team out of the tournament. Play good defense on the perimeter and rebound and ND should move on.
I don't know  
MookGiants : 3/16/2017 12:00 pm : link
if I would make it through a Duke-UNC title game, win or lose.
RE: yeah i mislinked  
MookGiants : 3/16/2017 12:01 pm : link
In comment 13395084 MetsAreBack said:
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it was Miami-jints that's feeling UCLA, not you.


One of these years I'm getting to Vegas for this initial weekend. The sports books must be insane today through sunday.


I went 5 years in a row, then my brothers started having kids and that ended. I could still go, but it was fun going with a big group.

It's an awesome experience.
if i hear for the championship  
MookGiants : 3/16/2017 12:02 pm : link
one more time im going to break something
RE: RE: yeah i mislinked  
YAJ2112 : 3/16/2017 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13395093 MookGiants said:
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In comment 13395084 MetsAreBack said:


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it was Miami-jints that's feeling UCLA, not you.


One of these years I'm getting to Vegas for this initial weekend. The sports books must be insane today through sunday.



I went 5 years in a row, then my brothers started having kids and that ended. I could still go, but it was fun going with a big group.

It's an awesome experience.


I've gone 10+ times. Best time to be in Vegas.
It seems like Thursday is the day for upsets  
ZogZerg : 3/16/2017 12:04 pm : link
Should be fun.
RE: RE: someone told  
Someguy1978 : 3/16/2017 12:04 pm : link
In comment 13395066 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 13395031 Les in TO said:


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me recently that a number of hospitals see a regular spike in vasectomies performed during the Monday-Wednesday preceding the tournament (so that the patients can take time off of work to recover on the Thursday/Friday).



I'm pretty sure thats a myth... but regardless, taking an entire week off for a vasectomy? Pfft... that's a 48 hour thing.


A local sports station in DC (106.7) has a contest every year giving away a vasectomy during March Madness. They actually did it yesterday live on the air from the doctor's office, with one of the guys from the show giving listeners "play-by-play" of the procedure.
I got  
Deej : 3/16/2017 12:06 pm : link
KY over Duke with Oregon and Gonzaga also in the Final 4. Importantly, I have no idea what Im doing.
I just hope we make it to 16  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 12:08 pm : link
Given the difficulties this season, and the fact that Isaiah Wilkins apparently is never going to recover from his illness, I think that's the most I can realistically hope for.
I  
Giantfootball025 : 3/16/2017 12:19 pm : link
keep changing my mind I'm all over the place. I think I'm going AZ over Butler just to be different. I know AZ is a popular pick though, but I like the way they are playing right now, they have good guard play and a dominate big. I like that combo.
IU officially fires Crean  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 12:25 pm : link
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someone  
MookGiants : 3/16/2017 12:26 pm : link
please tell Verne it's Beachem, not Meachem
Al Roker picks UNCW  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 12:30 pm : link

To win it all!

I always liked Al.
RE: IU officially fires Crean  
MetsAreBack : 3/16/2017 12:32 pm : link
In comment 13395143 Greg from LI said:
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Saw that. Gotta assume IU boosters/administration will be watching the Wichita St - Dayton game tomorrow closely.
RE: IU officially fires Crean  
giantsfan44ab : 3/16/2017 12:54 pm : link
In comment 13395143 Greg from LI said:
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Lol Mike Woodson next?
This kid Cock  
LCtheINTMachine : 3/16/2017 1:06 pm : link
for UNCW is pretty good.
RE: This kid Cock  
Deej : 3/16/2017 1:14 pm : link
In comment 13395191 LCtheINTMachine said:
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for UNCW is pretty good.


you like Cock?
Shhhhh  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 1:14 pm : link

Don't jinx it
I meant Dacock  
LCtheINTMachine : 3/16/2017 1:15 pm : link
This team is flat out better than UVA - a team my Orange manhandled.
RE: I meant Dacock  
Deej : 3/16/2017 1:16 pm : link
In comment 13395208 LCtheINTMachine said:
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This team is flat out better than UVA - a team my Orange manhandled.


Yeah, but you said you like "kid Cock" and we have to go with your first answer.
UVA  
Giantfootball025 : 3/16/2017 1:21 pm : link
coming back.
If Virginia loses this game, don't be surprised if Tony Bennett is  
Meats and Cheeses : 3/16/2017 1:22 pm : link
the next head coach of Indiana.
UNCW  
Giantfootball025 : 3/16/2017 1:29 pm : link
went cold at the end they had UVA on the ropes.
.  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 1:33 pm : link




UNCW blowing UVA out  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 1:34 pm : link

then let's them back in.

Jesus Christ!

All right, just gonna have to blow them out again in the second half.
What the tuck s that?  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 1:35 pm : link

Go find the NIT thread.
How does everyone  
Giantfootball025 : 3/16/2017 1:38 pm : link
feel about Butler? Game just started they jumped out to an early 10-5 lead.
RE: RE: IU officially fires Crean  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/16/2017 1:38 pm : link
In comment 13395157 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 13395143 Greg from LI said:


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Saw that. Gotta assume IU boosters/administration will be watching the Wichita St - Dayton game tomorrow closely.


Yep - and Illinois.
Princeton  
LCtheINTMachine : 3/16/2017 1:44 pm : link
really outmanned by a better, deeper ND team.
So far  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 1:46 pm : link

They are ganging tough though.
Hanging  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 1:47 pm : link

They play smart ball.
I read  
Giantfootball025 : 3/16/2017 1:47 pm : link
that Princeton out-manned comment as sarcasm.
This is my favorite sports day  
LCtheINTMachine : 3/16/2017 1:48 pm : link
Kids competing for the love of the sport!

How can anyone not love it?
ND/Prin  
Giantfootball025 : 3/16/2017 1:49 pm : link
game you get to see two teams who just know how to play the game of basketball. There really isn't to much razzle dazzle. It's good ball movement solid defense and fundamental play.
RE: I read  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 1:50 pm : link
In comment 13395261 Giantfootball025 said:
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that Princeton out-manned comment as sarcasm.


Nah, really?

A Cuse fan spewing sarcasm on the Big Boy's thread?

Nah, sounded sincere.
ND  
Giantfootball025 : 3/16/2017 1:52 pm : link
is the better team though. They trailed for all of 20 seconds. But, it is getting concerning that they keep letting them hang around.
RE: I read  
LCtheINTMachine : 3/16/2017 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13395261 Giantfootball025 said:
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that Princeton out-manned comment as sarcasm.


Correct! Haven't watched much of it but looks decent. More into UNCW.
Rooting  
Giantfootball025 : 3/16/2017 1:55 pm : link
for UNCW but, they need to start hitting their jumpers like the were in the beginning of the game. UVA D is only going to get tougher.
Princeton  
LCtheINTMachine : 3/16/2017 1:56 pm : link
takes some jacked-up 3s. Come on.
What  
Giantfootball025 : 3/16/2017 1:57 pm : link
a regression from Beachum this season. He was lights out last tourney basically carried ND to the elite 8 with his shooting. This past month he's been hot garbage.
Wow  
LCtheINTMachine : 3/16/2017 2:00 pm : link
Notre Dame has no idea how to guard them.
ND-Princeton has that look of a game you've seen a thousand times  
Stu11 : 3/16/2017 2:01 pm : link
in the tournament. Princeton not doing much, but hanging around you feel they'll get hot hit a couple of 3's and make this real interesting...
I have to watch all of this on my phone  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/16/2017 2:02 pm : link
The browser at work are so out of date that streams don't work!
Hump my 3rd grade Son's school decides to have open house  
Stu11 : 3/16/2017 2:05 pm : link
tonight at 6:30! The wife gave me the whole "I guess you can not go but he'll be reaaaaal disappointed..." routine. Thank god for the new system where they put all the games on separate channels. I'll record the start of the Terps at 6:50. Should get home by 7:30 or so.
Brutal airball  
LCtheINTMachine : 3/16/2017 2:07 pm : link
Was a good look.
And ND bullied them inside  
LCtheINTMachine : 3/16/2017 2:07 pm : link
Like an ACC team should do to these teams.
RE: Hump my 3rd grade Son's school decides to have open house  
MookGiants : 3/16/2017 2:09 pm : link
In comment 13395297 Stu11 said:
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tonight at 6:30! The wife gave me the whole "I guess you can not go but he'll be reaaaaal disappointed..." routine. Thank god for the new system where they put all the games on separate channels. I'll record the start of the Terps at 6:50. Should get home by 7:30 or so.


let him experience disappointment to make him stronger, ha ha.

Coming from someone who isn't married and has no kids
yep Mook now if it was my daughter it would be a whole different story  
Stu11 : 3/16/2017 2:11 pm : link
at age 12 she's a bigger nut than I am. She would say "Dad there is no way in hell we are missing the start of the Terps, screw my stupid paintings!"
UVA  
LCtheINTMachine : 3/16/2017 2:15 pm : link
looking good now. This will be a tight cover with the 8-point spread.
down 1  
MookGiants : 3/16/2017 2:19 pm : link
you should not be taking a 3
Notre Dame lucky as hell to escape  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 2:20 pm : link
Yet another First Round loss. They haven't made the Final Four in almost 40 years. Big time college basketball my ass. Pfffffffft.
RE: down 1  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/16/2017 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13395317 MookGiants said:
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you should not be taking a 3


Agreed, he is at least two feet behind the line. You have to drive down 1
Yea I know they love to shoot the 3's but they weren't falling today  
Stu11 : 3/16/2017 2:23 pm : link
at all. Should have looked inside or at least the dribble drive kick out.
RE: Yea I know they love to shoot the 3's but they weren't falling today  
MookGiants : 3/16/2017 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13395325 Stu11 said:
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at all. Should have looked inside or at least the dribble drive kick out.


If you have a wide open three fine, but at least drive to put pressure on the defense and most importantly the refs to call a foul.

They wound up with a contested three
ND  
Giantfootball025 : 3/16/2017 2:24 pm : link
always battles in the first round. They look exhausted honestly a lot of flat shots. Oh well, onward to the round of 32.
Princeton > Syracuse  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 2:28 pm : link


Moving on baby, in the grown up's bracket.

Great game between two of the good guys. Teams that actually have to attend classes to stay in college.

RE: Hump my 3rd grade Son's school decides to have open house  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/16/2017 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13395297 Stu11 said:
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tonight at 6:30! The wife gave me the whole "I guess you can not go but he'll be reaaaaal disappointed..." routine. Thank god for the new system where they put all the games on separate channels. I'll record the start of the Terps at 6:50. Should get home by 7:30 or so.


Stu, my 3-year-old knows when it's Maryland time we ain't going nowhere.
Shayok  
MookGiants : 3/16/2017 2:30 pm : link
has been pretty awful recently but they should thank their lucky stars for him today
UNCW > Syracuse  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 2:31 pm : link

4 point game!
Insert anyone of the 68 > Syracuse  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 2:33 pm : link

Go pollute the NIT threads.

Bwahahaha
That should have been a foul on Hall  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 2:34 pm : link
hip checked him right out of bounds.
UNCW!  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 2:43 pm : link

Let's go baby!

Down to 3!
Over the back on Salt  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 2:45 pm : link
not called.
2 pt game now  
micky : 3/16/2017 2:47 pm : link
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and that's that virginia survives  
micky : 3/16/2017 2:49 pm : link
.
Game Blouses  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 2:50 pm : link
UVA escapes. Not impressed at all by the ACC thus far. Pretty lousy performances across the board.
Shayok  
MookGiants : 3/16/2017 2:50 pm : link
really saved Virginia. And every time i've seen him this year he's been awful besides today

Well their one good offensive game is out of the way, they'll probably score 35 next game now
UNCW!  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 2:51 pm : link

Gives the game away. Damn shame. 15 pt blowout and they let them back in.

Oh well, one thing's for sure, Virginia ain't gonna beat Florida.

Just cover the 8.5 please.
RE: UNCW!  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/16/2017 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13395399 Cruzin said:
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Gives the game away. Damn shame. 15 pt blowout and they let them back in.

Oh well, one thing's for sure, Virginia ain't gonna beat Florida.

Just cover the 8.5 please.


You mean ETSU.
RE: RE: Hump my 3rd grade Son's school decides to have open house  
Stu11 : 3/16/2017 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13395337 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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In comment 13395297 Stu11 said:


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tonight at 6:30! The wife gave me the whole "I guess you can not go but he'll be reaaaaal disappointed..." routine. Thank god for the new system where they put all the games on separate channels. I'll record the start of the Terps at 6:50. Should get home by 7:30 or so.



Stu, my 3-year-old knows when it's Maryland time we ain't going nowhere.

Haha yep that works until they get a little older. It looks fine when its just Mommy at the Mommy and me Gymboree class, but when it comes to having to see all their shitty art work on display at school its like the the Kevin Costner-Gene Hackman CIA movie- "No Way Out".
RE: And ND bullied them inside  
Vin R : 3/16/2017 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13395303 LCtheINTMachine said:
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Like an ACC team should do to these teams.


I watched a lot of Ivy League basketball this year, these aren't your typical Ivy League teams anymore as Yale proved last year.
Those pesky CAA teams will give you a scare....  
Britt in VA : 3/16/2017 3:01 pm : link
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All Princeton had to do  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 3:04 pm : link
was hit one three - not even approach their 39% season average - to knock off what looked like a pretty average ND team. They shot 26% from three but needed just one more. Certainly, ND had something to do with their ineffectiveness.

And Princeton only shot 6 free throws all game. Six!

ND shot 21.
B, you know the less athletic team is usually...  
Crispino : 3/16/2017 3:10 pm : link
going to commit more fouls. I was rooting hard for Princeton, but that game was pretty fairly officiated, IMO.
RE: B, you know the less athletic team is usually...  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 3:12 pm : link
In comment 13395422 Crispino said:
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going to commit more fouls. I was rooting hard for Princeton, but that game was pretty fairly officiated, IMO.


Not saying it wasn't, Crisp. I'm saying it was a huge factor. Eight point differential right there in a 2-point game.
RE: Shayok  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 3:12 pm : link
In comment 13395397 MookGiants said:
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really saved Virginia. And every time i've seen him this year he's been awful besides today


He had a weird, up and down season. He had a stretch of games in January where he was terrific, putting up double digit points in seven of eight games. Down the stretch, he was horrendous and was pretty much dropped out of the rotation. He picked a good time to wake up.

I don't know what the hell is wrong with Wilkins, but he obviously is going to be a nonfactor from here on out. Sucks to be us. I still don't think much of Florida and their weakass schedule, though. They beat one ranked team all year, Kentucky at home, and the SEC is garbage.
RE: RE: Shayok  
Britt in VA : 3/16/2017 3:21 pm : link
In comment 13395425 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13395397 MookGiants said:


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really saved Virginia. And every time i've seen him this year he's been awful besides today



He had a weird, up and down season. He had a stretch of games in January where he was terrific, putting up double digit points in seven of eight games. Down the stretch, he was horrendous and was pretty much dropped out of the rotation. He picked a good time to wake up.

I don't know what the hell is wrong with Wilkins, but he obviously is going to be a nonfactor from here on out. Sucks to be us. I still don't think much of Florida and their weakass schedule, though. They beat one ranked team all year, Kentucky at home, and the SEC is garbage.


What IS wrong with Wilkins? Is he sick?
Bwahaha  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 3:22 pm : link

One of the junior varsity fans waxing analytical about the Men's tourney.

That's funny.

It's the referees fault.

You just can't help yourself, can you. What a fucking whiner. Now, go back to the kiddie threads and be one of the 16 people in the nation watching the NIT tourney. Ya know B, there might be a spelling bee thread you might actually qualify for somewhere.

Yes, Wilkins has had a virus for over a week.  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 3:24 pm : link

They didn't say flu, just a virus which leads me to believe it's not known when he will be back to full strength.
Bucknell hanging tough  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 3:30 pm : link
Despite a big early lead for WVU.

SD State missing easy layups but only down to #1 zags by 9.
Wilkins had strep, like several of his teammates  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 3:32 pm : link
But he must have something else too because he's been mostly unable to play for two weeks now, and judging by today it's not getting better any time soon. I heard he's lost about ten pounds from illness.
Damn, that sucks.  
Britt in VA : 3/16/2017 3:33 pm : link
Rotten luck.
he's not our best player, but I think he's our most important player  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 3:38 pm : link
Without him, Salt is pretty much the only real post player we have. Diakite is too skinny and raw and Reuter has some skills but just isn't much of an athlete.
Wilkins said after the game that he's not playing in the next game  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 3:56 pm : link
Damn.

We've had some lousy luck with health in the tournament the past several years. Most of the team was injured in 2012 when Florida blew us out, Gill went down with a sprained ankle in the first half against MSU in 2014, Anderson had a broken finger and appendicitis right before the NCAAT in 2015, now Wilkins.
Well, you know....  
Britt in VA : 3/16/2017 3:59 pm : link
You could say UVA overachieved based on what you thought the team might be after the players they lost last year....

Winning a game in the tournament is still winning a game in the tournament.
ETSU making this an up-and-down game  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/16/2017 4:07 pm : link
not good for Florida - tied at 30.
oh most definitely  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 4:09 pm : link
Nichols was an enormous loss. To still have a solid season after losing what may have been our best player was pretty satisfying, and they could have easily won several more. Lost a couple at the buzzer and a couple of other close ones because of bad FT shooting. If we can at least get to the S16, I'd say this was a successful year.
33-32 at the half  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 4:17 pm : link
Go ETSU!
Bucknell won't go away  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 4:52 pm : link
They've held the deficit around 5 for a while now, although they can't seem to get closer than that.
Pretty surprised there have been  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 5:01 pm : link
no upsets yet.
Bucknell is getting hosed by the refs  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 5:09 pm : link
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Steve Alford to IU.  
Stan in LA : 3/16/2017 5:32 pm : link
You heard it here first.
MTSU is beating Minnesota's ass now  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 5:34 pm : link
There's your 5-12 upset
RE: MTSU is beating Minnesota's ass now  
MetsAreBack : 3/16/2017 5:55 pm : link
In comment 13395624 Greg from LI said:
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There's your 5-12 upset



Easy upset call though. Minnesota had no business getting a 5 seed. And MTSU has the experience. I'd pat self on back but I'm pretty sure the damn 12 seed was a 1.5 point FAVORITE entering this game. Nice job committee!!
Minnesota sucks  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 6:16 pm : link
B10. Garbage.
Not our finest year  
Kyle in NY : 3/16/2017 6:20 pm : link
in the Big 10, that's for sure, but it would help if the committee would seed the conference properly
Great job committee  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 6:20 pm : link
giving Minnesota a 5 seed. Same seed as UVA and ND? Gimme a fuckin break.
Those seeds should have been reversed  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 6:23 pm : link
game was never in doubt.
Wow...With 12 secs and a one point lead, Vandy fouls intentionally  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 6:37 pm : link
Good Lord..Total brain lock
What an awful final possession by Vandy  
jlukes : 3/16/2017 6:37 pm : link
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Doug collins needs to not watch these games  
Rflairr : 3/16/2017 6:38 pm : link
He looks like its a real struggle for him.
Fuckin idiot Vandy  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 6:38 pm : link
fouls for no reason. Moron.
Wow  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 6:40 pm : link
Unbelievably bad finish by Vanderbilt.
RE: Steve Alford to IU.  
Rflairr : 3/16/2017 6:40 pm : link
In comment 13395621 Stan in LA said:
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You heard it here first.


I'm sure UCLA, would love for them to hire Alford.
That Vany foul was terrible  
SimpleMan : 3/16/2017 6:41 pm : link
but so was their last possession. Twenty or so seconds, down by 1, and they pass the ball exactly zero times and their guy launches a 3 from 5 feet behind the line. Brutal shot.
RE: That Vany foul was terrible  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 6:42 pm : link
In comment 13395669 SimpleMan said:
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but so was their last possession. Twenty or so seconds, down by 1, and they pass the ball exactly zero times and their guy launches a 3 from 5 feet behind the line. Brutal shot.


Same thing Princeton did at the end of their game.
RE: RE: That Vany foul was terrible  
Rflairr : 3/16/2017 6:43 pm : link
In comment 13395672 Greg from LI said:
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but so was their last possession. Twenty or so seconds, down by 1, and they pass the ball exactly zero times and their guy launches a 3 from 5 feet behind the line. Brutal shot.



Same thing Princeton did at the end of their game.


College and the NBA. Teams just are way too in love with the 3 Point shot.
Vandy couldn't have performed  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 6:45 pm : link
worst in the last minute. Pathetic.
And why is Charles Barkley  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 6:48 pm : link
doing college basketball again? He's the worst.
On the plus side, my bracket is now 8-0  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 6:55 pm : link
Resisting the siren song of the upsets...to this point, anyway.
yup  
MetsAreBack : 3/16/2017 7:06 pm : link
8-0 in one; 7-1 in the other (I chose Florida and ETSU to hedge). northwestern gave me a scare as had them in both, but you can always count on Vanderbilt for tournament choking. year in, year out - never fails.

8-0 too  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 7:09 pm : link
pretty much chalk at this point.
I didn't call too many first round upsets  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 7:20 pm : link
A few minor ones - Marquette, Xavier, VCU. Wichita State is technically an upset but they might be the most underseeded team ever.
I got Vermont over Purdue.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/16/2017 7:26 pm : link
Mostly because I partied at both places & Burlington kicked Lafayette's ass.

I'm undefeated thus far, though Maryland is doing me no favors right now.
Local kid from Shen  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 7:28 pm : link
doing well - Kevin Huerter. Great to see.
Nova scoring at a point per minute pace  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 7:42 pm : link
Jeez, and people gave us a hard time for starting slow.
haha  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 7:44 pm : link
starting slow? Or scoring slow?
Hey, we put up 75 today  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 7:49 pm : link
VCU fucking killing me here  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 8:15 pm : link
Can't do better against this WCC trash?
Let's go Xavier  
figgy2989 : 3/16/2017 8:18 pm : link
.
Melo going cold...  
figgy2989 : 3/16/2017 8:19 pm : link
He is missing some easy buckets
Xavier starting to pull away a bit  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 8:34 pm : link
Cmon Musketeers
RE: Melo going cold...  
giantsfan44ab : 3/16/2017 8:36 pm : link
In comment 13395762 figgy2989 said:
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He is missing some easy buckets


Melo has been insanely disappointing. I thought he was going to be a star and was hoping for the Knicks to draft him one day.

Now I don't know if he'll ever play more than 20 minutes in an NBA game.
Man..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/16/2017 8:37 pm : link
against almost any other 4 seed, Bucknell probably gets a W. Tough matchup against a team that pressed for 40 minutes. Even then, they hung tough and had a couple horrendous calls against them.

I did call Winthrop losing by 12 though.
I had to stay away from TV, radio, & internet all day  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/16/2017 8:42 pm : link
so I could watch the Zags game unspoiled tonight, which is a lot more difficult than I thought. As for the game, the Zags couldn't hit an open shot (3 or free throw) if their lives depended on it. They were definitely tight as a drum.

I do feel a little better seeing that Nova was only up 1 at the half. But they're pulling away now.

St. Mary's beating VCU down is shocking.
Musketeers relying too much on shots beyond the arc  
figgy2989 : 3/16/2017 8:48 pm : link
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UVM  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 8:56 pm : link
Hanging in there. Down 4.

Now down 2. .
RE: Musketeers relying too much on shots beyond the arc  
figgy2989 : 3/16/2017 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13395787 figgy2989 said:
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Guess it didn't matter, Maryland is terrible.
Shocker  
giantsfan44ab : 3/16/2017 8:59 pm : link
Maryland doesn't get 20 more FT attempts than their opponent on a neutral court and lose to a lower seed by 10.

Who would've thought.
Maryland  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 9:03 pm : link
Another B10 team shits the bed. This is ridiculous.
St. Mary's VERY close to completely pissing that lead away  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/16/2017 9:06 pm : link
...
Rams made this a game  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 9:08 pm : link
Really turned up the defensive intensity.
Still.undefeated  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 9:20 pm : link
But I think VCU is going to come up a bit short for my first loss.
RE: And why is Charles Barkley  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 9:30 pm : link
In comment 13395678 B in ALB said:
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doing college basketball again? He's the worst.


Why are you on an NCAA tourney thread?

The JV plays when the big boys aren't on.
Lets go  
ctc in ftmyers : 3/16/2017 9:36 pm : link
Eagles
VCU..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/16/2017 9:41 pm : link
getting screwed by the refs down the stretch
Fat Man  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 9:49 pm : link

I completely disagree with your constant criticism of the refs, but I usually ignore it as you have an agenda that you research. It's part of the game, adapt and adjust but I must thank you for getting me off Winthrop. Actually took Butler to the Sweet Sixteen. Thanks.

You're a quality poster, the ref obsession takes away from that. Not complaining, just pointing that out. Take it for what it's worth. Carry on.
Nah... VCU definitely got screwed a few times and I'm rooting  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/16/2017 9:51 pm : link
for St. Mary's. There was an awful flop called a loose ball foul under the basket that was especially egregious.
Really interesting game  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 9:52 pm : link
Between FGCU and FSU. LOTS going on here.
Congrats to St. Mary's.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/16/2017 9:52 pm : link
I had very little confidence in them winning today.
RE: Nah... VCU definitely got screwed a few times and I'm rooting  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 9:53 pm : link
In comment 13395840 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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for St. Mary's. There was an awful flop called a loose ball foul under the basket that was especially egregious.


Agree completely. Good call shock.
RE: Nah... VCU definitely got screwed a few times and I'm rooting  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 9:54 pm : link
In comment 13395840 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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for St. Mary's. There was an awful flop called a loose ball foul under the basket that was especially egregious.


Yup. St Mary's had some Duke quality flops. VCU probably still loses anyway but it would have been a much closer game.
Ooooooh, LeDay scaryface!  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 9:55 pm : link
What a fucking tool. Between him and Self Allen, Tek is utterly loathsome.
I'm teaching my son that the fans  
Cruzin : 3/16/2017 9:59 pm : link

who complain about the refereeing are the fans with the least knowledge of the game.

Thank you for proving my point.

After Florida destroys Virginia on Saturday, maybe Greg and B can Facebook each other and leave the college basketball comments to those of us that will still matter.

You guys are really pathetic.
Maybe you can teach your son not to be a fucking internet douche.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/16/2017 10:04 pm : link
...
so if the team you root for  
nygiants16 : 3/16/2017 10:05 pm : link
is not in the tournament or loses you can no longer talk about the ncaa tournament? makes sense
so if you went to a non division 1 school  
nygiants16 : 3/16/2017 10:06 pm : link
you are just shit out of luck every year huh, damn that sucks
RE: so if you went to a non division 1 school  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 10:09 pm : link
In comment 13395862 nygiants16 said:
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you are just shit out of luck every year huh, damn that sucks


Rocky didn't even go to Notre Dame
RE: RE: so if you went to a non division 1 school  
figgy2989 : 3/16/2017 10:11 pm : link
In comment 13395871 Greg from LI said:
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you are just shit out of luck every year huh, damn that sucks



Rocky didn't even go to Notre Dame


It's ok he lived next store to Digger, so it's all good.
Damn Auto correct...  
figgy2989 : 3/16/2017 10:12 pm : link
*next door
RE: RE: so if you went to a non division 1 school  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13395871 Greg from LI said:
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you are just shit out of luck every year huh, damn that sucks



Rocky didn't even go to Notre Dame


Bwahahaha! What?!

Clown show.
And he can't even pull the "well, my school is D-III" card  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 10:15 pm : link
Because, last I checked, Fordham plays in the A-10.
FGCU  
ctc in ftmyers : 3/16/2017 10:16 pm : link
with the lead
RE: And he can't even pull the  
B in ALB : 3/16/2017 10:18 pm : link
In comment 13395879 Greg from LI said:
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Because, last I checked, Fordham plays in the A-10.


What a Fuckin old man dupe fraud loser. Can it get any worse? Good Lord.
RE: FGCU  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 10:19 pm : link
In comment 13395882 ctc in ftmyers said:
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with the lead


They're still a fun team to watch. Plus, for all their talent, FSU plays as dumb as a bag of hammers.
Mark Turgeon just witnessed what good coaching looks like  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/16/2017 10:21 pm : link
Mack exposed him again as a mediocre coach who has been able to recruit at an above-average level.
The Wolfpack could be winning if they weren't shooting like they were  
YAJ2112 : 3/16/2017 10:25 pm : link
on roofies
RE: RE: FGCU  
ctc in ftmyers : 3/16/2017 10:25 pm : link
In comment 13395885 Greg from LI said:
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with the lead



They're still a fun team to watch. Plus, for all their talent, FSU plays as dumb as a bag of hammers.


They are a fun team to watch. Have been all year.

Not expecting anything but it should be a good game.
Justin Robinson is the most pathetic flopper I've ever seen  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 11:31 pm : link
He makes Greg Paulus look like a player with a high level of integrity.
RE: Mark Turgeon just witnessed what good coaching looks like  
giantsfan44ab : 3/16/2017 11:45 pm : link
In comment 13395888 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Mack exposed him again as a mediocre coach who has been able to recruit at an above-average level.


I'll take Turgeon as a replacement for Crean. He gets his guys to play defense. He's made chicken out of chicken shit. Jake layman is the best player he's had the last 4 years and he's a D leaguer.
Wisconsin has done us all a great service  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 11:54 pm : link
The trash has been taken out.
they got the big ten seedings  
adambear : 3/16/2017 11:56 pm : link
completely wrong.
I always forget to look at venues in these early rounds  
MetsAreBack : 3/16/2017 11:58 pm : link
If I'd seen Iowa state was somehow playing a home game tonight when they aren't the 4 seed I wouldn't have gone Nevada here
RE: they got the big ten seedings  
MetsAreBack : 3/16/2017 11:59 pm : link
In comment 13395953 adambear said:
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completely wrong.


They screwed a lot more up than just the big 10. Is there a universe where vandernilts 15 losses in a mid major conference is a higher seed than Wichita state or even Vermont?
I just realized Iowa state may face kansas  
MetsAreBack : 3/17/2017 12:11 am : link
In sweet 16. Whaaaat?

They couldn't put Notre dame in this bracket instead - in Milwaukee pod with Purdue? And put Miami in another region.... (Which Miami - Notre dame is far less likely than 1 and 5 seeds meeting)

This committee does really need to go. Further highlights how ridiculous the Minnesota 5 seed was as if was one of the reasons they put Iowa state here and not south region
Wichita State is ridiculously underseeded  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 12:18 am : link
Kenpom isn't the end all, be all, but they were #8 there and....a 10 seed.
I really  
Giantfootball025 : 3/17/2017 12:21 am : link
want to see a Wichita St vs Kentucky matchup.
What a win.  
Jon in NYC : 3/17/2017 12:58 am : link
Bronson Koenig. 8 3s. What a monster.
RE: Wichita State is ridiculously underseeded  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/17/2017 4:26 am : link
In comment 13395965 Greg from LI said:
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Kenpom isn't the end all, be all, but they were #8 there and....a 10 seed.


I actually can't blame the committee there. Wichita has ZERO good wins this season and no... Illinois State isn't a good win.

Then again, what possible excuse was there for the Spartans getting a 9 seed?
Tough loss for VCU...  
Britt in VA : 3/17/2017 8:45 am : link
that was a bad matchup from the get go. After actually seeing St. Mary's for a full game, I have to think they were a bit underseeded, as well.

We fought hard, heroic effort by JeQuan Lewis. They just exposed our weaknesses, and we didn't have a "guy" this year that can make them pay from outside.

Damn Australians... :)
RE: RE: Wichita State is ridiculously underseeded  
MetsAreBack : 3/17/2017 8:50 am : link
In comment 13396005 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Then again, what possible excuse was there for the Spartans getting a 9 seed?



The NCAA committee chairman being their athletic director?

Not enough people are talking about how the big 10 got seeded, and how Michigan State made it in with ease and got such a high seed.

But truth be told i have more of an issue with Vanderbilt getting in the tournament, let alone somehow a 9 seed, than with Mich State which at least has i guess historical success (which should obviously not factor in but it does)

The committee  
Metnut : 3/17/2017 9:02 am : link
is full of dinosaurs who are clueless at best and corrupt at worst. The sooner it's reformed the better off the sport will be.
Not defending any decisions that were made  
bigbluehoya : 3/17/2017 9:14 am : link
As I have no rooting interest other than my bracket and some bets yet-to-be-made, but a an 8-9 seed seems hardly a gift (if you accept that a team did deserve to make the tournament). I believe #1 seeds make the Sweet16 something like 85-90% of the time.

If you put aside the seeds, Wichita State surely still got screwed, but the Michigan State treatment would put them worse off than they currently are, IMO.
A minor miracle  
Metnut : 3/17/2017 9:35 am : link
that ND won yesterday. Princeton took it to them the last ten minute and ND didn't know how to respond. ND looked like a team that had turned the corner in their last 10 games and ACC tourney especially and picked a bad day to throw a big stinker.

The good news is that winning is all that matters in the NCAA tourney and they'll have a real shot against WVU given how well they've handled Louisville's press over the years.
RE: RE: Mark Turgeon just witnessed what good coaching looks like  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/17/2017 9:39 am : link
In comment 13395946 giantsfan44ab said:
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Mack exposed him again as a mediocre coach who has been able to recruit at an above-average level.



I'll take Turgeon as a replacement for Crean. He gets his guys to play defense. He's made chicken out of chicken shit. Jake layman is the best player he's had the last 4 years and he's a D leaguer.


Take him, since you don't know what you are talking about.
RE: RE: RE: Mark Turgeon just witnessed what good coaching looks like  
Stu11 : 3/17/2017 9:58 am : link
In comment 13396160 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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In comment 13395888 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:


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Mack exposed him again as a mediocre coach who has been able to recruit at an above-average level.



I'll take Turgeon as a replacement for Crean. He gets his guys to play defense. He's made chicken out of chicken shit. Jake layman is the best player he's had the last 4 years and he's a D leaguer.

Dude what in gods name is your beef with MD? You memorize our free throw attempt total per game like its the tax code. We established last week that its not that your still butt hurt over 2002 because you said you were too young to remember. "Jake layman is the best player he's had the last 4 years and he's a D leaguer." Ok we may have to start a contest here at BBI- most idiotic comment of the week. You think Melo Trimble is chicken shit? Turg is always a tough call for me. He seems like a great guy and an excellent recruiter. However he just does not make those in game coaching adjustments. The program will be fine with him, just don't know that we can take that next step. However who are we going to get to come here that will be much better. I think the seminole moment for this program was after Gary left and the AD Anderson was sitting across the table from Sean Miller and couldn't close the deal. Now maybe Miller didn't want to come and desired Arizona more. That's very possible, however that was our chance to land an elite coach and recruiter that could have really brought us to the next level.
the seminole moment?  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 10:03 am : link
Heh
Allow me to support my erstwhile colleague Stu  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/17/2017 10:43 am : link
His likely autocorrect misspelling is nowhere as dumb as our AD, who is known for being inappropriately drunk at most major donor events and who also hired Randy Edsall.

Turgeon is a nice guy and ok recruiter, but his in-game coaching was pretty poor this year and he still can't construct a balanced roster. He is essentially a passive coach, and that translates into his teams playing passively.

yep Greg I realized when I wrote it  
Stu11 : 3/17/2017 10:58 am : link
however my limited MD graduate vocabulary couldn't come up with a better synonym lol. Yea Hump thig is I think he constructed a damn good roster this year. Its funny with all the "awww shucks what a great job he did with 3 freshman" talk and "losing 4 starters from last year" was nonsense. This roster was better than last year. Much better shooting, and before Cheko went down plenty of depth inside. The real indictment was with starting 3 freshman we actually got worse as the year went on, not better. That should be the reverse. All that having been said how much better can we do than Turg? Tom Izzo ain't walking through that door. We had a shot with Miller. And yes Anderson is a buffoon.
Never said Turgeon was a God  
giantsfan44ab : 3/17/2017 11:12 am : link
I'm saying he's better than Crean. He is starting 3 freshman and he gets them to play good defense. He built a good defense last year with fat/lazy Diamond Stone as the defensive "anchor".

I don't think Trimble is chicken shit. I just don't think you can get to the sweet sixteen with him as your best player. Is that really crazy to think? He averages almost as many turnovers as assists, and he's been abysmal from 3 this year. Is it really a stretch to say something like that? He's an undersized SG that can't shoot and is particularly bad on defense.

Exactly who has been so much more effective than Layman for UMD the last few years? No, I'm not saying Layman should've been a #1 option on a final four team. But from a team player aspect he is someone you want as part of your team.

And I'll say it again, exactly which Turgeon recuit has been tearing it up after leaving MD?

Not putting Turgeon in the Tom Izzo class of the big 10. Or even the Beeline level. But he hasn't exactly been A1 recruits either. Huerter and Jackson are nice, let's see how they develop. But he isn't exactly developing lottery picks in college park either (Alex Len is a bum).
Maybe you can say  
giantsfan44ab : 3/17/2017 11:17 am : link
Turgeon isn't developing the top recruits he gets. But no Turgeon recruit has gotten all that much better with professional training/coaching.
RE: Never said Turgeon was a God  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/17/2017 11:27 am : link
In comment 13396359 giantsfan44ab said:
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I'm saying he's better than Crean. He is starting 3 freshman and he gets them to play good defense. He built a good defense last year with fat/lazy Diamond Stone as the defensive "anchor".

I don't think Trimble is chicken shit. I just don't think you can get to the sweet sixteen with him as your best player. Is that really crazy to think? He averages almost as many turnovers as assists, and he's been abysmal from 3 this year. Is it really a stretch to say something like that? He's an undersized SG that can't shoot and is particularly bad on defense.

Exactly who has been so much more effective than Layman for UMD the last few years? No, I'm not saying Layman should've been a #1 option on a final four team. But from a team player aspect he is someone you want as part of your team.

And I'll say it again, exactly which Turgeon recuit has been tearing it up after leaving MD?

Not putting Turgeon in the Tom Izzo class of the big 10. Or even the Beeline level. But he hasn't exactly been A1 recruits either. Huerter and Jackson are nice, let's see how they develop. But he isn't exactly developing lottery picks in college park either (Alex Len is a bum).


Which recruits have torn it up FOR Maryland? Trimble and Stone were his 5-stars, Melo saved his job and Stone underwhelmed. He basically whiffed on a whole class outside of Layman - Mitchell, Faust, Allen and Cleare, and Nickens and Wiley have never developed. These ARE his recruits - the freshman class has two redshirts. That's poor balance.
RE: Maybe you can say  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/17/2017 11:29 am : link
In comment 13396365 giantsfan44ab said:
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Turgeon isn't developing the top recruits he gets. But no Turgeon recruit has gotten all that much better with professional training/coaching.


Yes, so if he can't recruit top talent or coach up mid-level talent, then what is he good for other than running a clean program and being a nice guy?
Layman was a nice player  
Greg from LI : 3/17/2017 11:30 am : link
But he was third banana his whole career to various combinations of Trimble, Dez Wells, Robert Carter, Diamond Stone, and Self Allen.
RE: RE: Maybe you can say  
giantsfan44ab : 3/17/2017 11:44 am : link
In comment 13396419 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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In comment 13396365 giantsfan44ab said:


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Turgeon isn't developing the top recruits he gets. But no Turgeon recruit has gotten all that much better with professional training/coaching.



Yes, so if he can't recruit top talent or coach up mid-level talent, then what is he good for other than running a clean program and being a nice guy?


Fair enough. When would be the earliest Maryland would even think about canning him though?
RE: Layman was a nice player  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/17/2017 11:46 am : link
In comment 13396425 Greg from LI said:
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But he was third banana his whole career to various combinations of Trimble, Dez Wells, Robert Carter, Diamond Stone, and Self Allen.


Layman was a matchup nightmare at the 4, but he had to play at the 3 because of the Stone/Carter deal. When Layman was the focus on offense at the elbow in, the team did really well.
RE: RE: RE: Maybe you can say  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/17/2017 11:54 am : link
In comment 13396498 giantsfan44ab said:
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In comment 13396419 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:


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In comment 13396365 giantsfan44ab said:


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Turgeon isn't developing the top recruits he gets. But no Turgeon recruit has gotten all that much better with professional training/coaching.



Yes, so if he can't recruit top talent or coach up mid-level talent, then what is he good for other than running a clean program and being a nice guy?



Fair enough. When would be the earliest Maryland would even think about canning him though?


They can't, our idiot AD gave him an extension, would cost a pretty penny to get out of it.
Here's my Terps frustration...  
tony stg : 3/17/2017 12:11 pm : link
On Jan 1, Nebraska beat Md primarily by using a 1-3-1 zone at the end of the game that completely flummoxed them. Yesterday was March 16, meaning they had 2-1/2 months to work on attacking that zone. Anyone with a little bit of knowledge knew that Xavier was going to zone the Terps. Looked to me like they got worse against a zone over those 2-1/2 months not better. Who's fault is that? That's the kind of stuff that drives me crazy.

Not saying I've given up on Turge, but I have to see some improvement with him, too, as well as the players.

Thing is last night was bizarre vs. the zone  
Stu11 : 3/17/2017 12:22 pm : link
awful at the start, superb in the middle of the game running Huerter to the high post and firing the dump down pass and then awful the last 15 minutes. Bottom line is 7-26 from 3 will destroy any chance you have against a zone.
RE: Here's my Terps frustration...  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/17/2017 1:01 pm : link
In comment 13396636 tony stg said:
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On Jan 1, Nebraska beat Md primarily by using a 1-3-1 zone at the end of the game that completely flummoxed them. Yesterday was March 16, meaning they had 2-1/2 months to work on attacking that zone. Anyone with a little bit of knowledge knew that Xavier was going to zone the Terps. Looked to me like they got worse against a zone over those 2-1/2 months not better. Who's fault is that? That's the kind of stuff that drives me crazy.

Not saying I've given up on Turge, but I have to see some improvement with him, too, as well as the players.


I actually have to defend turgeon in one aspect, when Xavier made their run in the second half, the Terps missed 3 straight layups against the zone and Melo turned it over twice. That was the game. Turgeon can't actually put the ball in the hole
RE: UCLA will flame out  
Stan in LA : 3/20/2017 11:58 am : link
In comment 13395078 Greg from LI said:
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I feel rock-solid on that one. They play no defense whatsoever. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cincy knock them off.


Nice call Greg!
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