Please convince me why (besides it being a need) we should draft any offensive linemen in the first round of this draft.
I am warming up to it, but this is deep draft in a ton of positions besides Oline, and Qb. The prospects available in the first feel like reaches, and I have a feeling someone unexpected is going to drop to use at #23.
No I am just saying, tons of people on here are demanding we take an Olineman in the first round even if any of those players could be had at #23.
That's how I feel.
Plus the fact that 3 of the lineman are FA's next year.
I hope they draft the best player left on the board period! Even if it's a position where we are already strong (CB, WR, DT/DE, etc.). Even if the linemen slated as first rounders gets drafted - they are two or three years away from making an impact
No. No soup for you.
I think Giants should draft best skill player available and draft OL in the later rounds and hope they get lucky.
TE, or OL are the picks.
I think Giants should draft best skill player available and draft OL in the later rounds and hope they get lucky.
Pugh was a tackle and fits better at LG. To say he is a mediocre LG loses you points.
My guess is a pass rusher at 23 followed by an OT at 55 -- maybe a trade up in the 2nd if there's a run on OL.
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Who is available when it is our pick?
That's how I feel.
I think you think people are agreeing with you and they're not (or maybe I'm misinterpreting). It's possible that an OL could be the BPA when we're on the clock.
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Davis, Williams, Ross, Reddick, Charlton, Thomas, and Foster are all gone?
No I am just saying, tons of people on here are demanding we take an Olineman in the first round even if any of those players could be had at #23.
I'm reading Adam's post as answering your plea to be convinced. The way I'm understanding his post is he's saying is if all those guys he mentions are gone that's why you take the OL at 23
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Davis, Williams, Ross, Reddick, Charlton, Thomas, and Foster are all gone?
No I am just saying, tons of people on here are demanding we take an Olineman in the first round even if any of those players could be had at #23.
I'm reading Adam's post as answering your plea to be convinced. The way I'm understanding his post is he's saying is if all those guys he mentions are gone that's why you take the OL at 23
Yeah. That's what I was trying to say at least. Maybe I phrased it weird.
I don't think they will take a guy in a lower tier talent-wise just for need, but this year it need and value may line up with a guy like Bolles. I"m not terribly excited about Ramcyzk or Bolles.. if Taco Charleton, McCaffrey, Lampe, or Howard aren't there for me.. I wouldn't worry about "reach".
I don't know how he lasts until our pick but if he does we should run to the podium. Unit-changing player.
Lamp is the squeaky clean prospect who's strong as a bull, athletic and plays with great technique.
Look what happened with the FA OL.
Also, Lamp looks like a fantastic prospect, but to my untrained eye he looks like a guard.
Look what happened with the FA OL.
Also, Lamp looks like a fantastic prospect, but to my untrained eye he looks like a guard.
He is projected to Guard, but I think he plays LT for WKU.
How bout this ^
How bout this ^
I think Dion Dawkins could be a good starting tackle for us and should be around in the 2nd round.
hey can i join that?..
"China doll"
"blue chip player"
offense needs to "gel"
I'd bet a CB is pick at 23
TE, or OL are the picks.
completely agree.....im no too crazy about the miami TE though as most people seem to be, maybe we trade the pick and take 2 more mid rounders, since it seems to be where a lot of linemen will fall.
The starting line will almost certainly include five of the following players:
Weston Richburg (C)
Justin Pugh (LG; conceivably LT or RT, but don't bet on it)
Ereck Flowers (LT or possibly RT or G)
D.J. Fluker (RG, RT or swingman)
John Jerry (G or swingman)
Bobby Hart (RG, RT or swingman)
Brett Jones or a rookie might have an outside chance of cracking the lineup, but it's a long shot. So, somewhat paradoxically, the Giants have a glaring need for offensive line help and very little chance of immediate relief through the draft.