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NFT: Ibuprofen linked to increased risk of cardiac arrest

gidiefor : Mod : 3/16/2017 8:08 pm
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Common painkillers, including ibuprofen, increase a person’s risk of cardiac arrest by a third, experts have warned.

The drugs should not be sold in supermarkets or petrol stations, and should only be available on prescription, they said.

Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) as a group were linked to a 31 percent increased risk of cardiac arrest.

But, ibuprofen – the most common NSAID – increased that risk by a staggering 50 percent.


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I knew the stuff was to good to be true  
DennyInDenville : 3/16/2017 8:11 pm : link
Stopped taking it after about 20 years of age..

Take it maybe once or twice a year now for a really bad headache or muscle tears...


Is the study for those that take it everyday ?
Yes but you would have to take massive doses of it.  
shelovesnycsports : 3/16/2017 8:24 pm : link
81mg Aspirin a day will do more good for your heart. If you are worried about your heart see a cardiologist. A basic low dose aspirin regimen will do wonders for you. with exercise and proper diet.
RE: Yes but you would have to take massive doses of it.  
section125 : 3/16/2017 8:27 pm : link
In comment 13395766 shelovesnycsports said:
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81mg Aspirin a day will do more good for your heart. If you are worried about your heart see a cardiologist. A basic low dose aspirin regimen will do wonders for you. with exercise and proper diet.


Aspirin has nothing to do with ibuprofen, Aleve or Advil.
Don't take your medical advice from the Sun.  
KeoweeFan : 3/16/2017 8:27 pm : link
If you have a concern, ask your doctor.

Studies are published every day in medical journals all over the world. That does not mean the conclusions in any one study are more true than any other study.

Some publications like the Sun will repeat any controversial finding to increase readership.
Eh...  
RC02XX : 3/16/2017 8:32 pm : link
Hundreds of thousands of military routinely take Motrin for your routine twisted ankle during training to sunken chest wound and blown off limbs (not really but really...haha). It's a cure all according to our Navy corpmen and medics.


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Holy fuck balls...  
RC02XX : 3/16/2017 8:32 pm : link
Giant picture...sorry about that.
Another large scale epidemiological  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/16/2017 8:33 pm : link
Study which is interesting but needs to be scrutinized further What other comorbid conditions do these people have. How many are overweight?Don't exercise. Family history of cardiac issues? Sure One can make the arguemenr that over the counter medicines and even dietary supplements are not inherently safe just because you don't need a Prescription.

Too much of anything is rarely good. The over abuse of pain killers can actually make some headache syndromes much worse etc. people just don't educate themselves. They rarely do. But there's no pill for lack of common sense.
Yes but you would have to take massive doses of it.  
shelovesnycsports : 3/16/2017 9:09 pm : link
81mg Aspirin a day will do more good for your heart. If you are worried about your heart see a cardiologist. A basic low dose aspirin regimen will do wonders for you. with exercise and proper diet.
RE: RE: Yes but you would have to take massive doses of it.  
shelovesnycsports : 3/16/2017 9:11 pm : link
In comment 13395767 section125 said:
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81mg Aspirin a day will do more good for your heart. If you are worried about your heart see a cardiologist. A basic low dose aspirin regimen will do wonders for you. with exercise and proper diet.



Aspirin has nothing to do with ibuprofen, Aleve or Advil.
thanks I should have made myself clear Aspirin(low regimen) is what is better for your heart.
A low dose of aspirin doesn't help with  
UConn4523 : 3/16/2017 9:15 pm : link
the things people take ibuprofen for.

If you have a headache or muscle ache and take 2 Advil, I find it very hard to believe you increase your heart attack risk by 33% unless you are already at high risk for one (high BP, overweight, elderly, etc).
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shelovesnycsports : 3/16/2017 9:19 pm : link
In comment 13395806 UConn4523 said:
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the things people take ibuprofen for.

If you have a headache or muscle ache and take 2 Advil, I find it very hard to believe you increase your heart attack risk by 33% unless you are already at high risk for one (high BP, overweight, elderly, etc).


You would have to take very high doses to effect your heart.
Acetaminophen (Tylenol) is great for pain management as well like any drug on controlled doses. unless you have liver problems.
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arcarsenal : 3/16/2017 9:21 pm : link
I am guessing you'd have to be taking it on a very regular basis and at high dosages to be at any sort of increased risk.

I take 2 Advil whenever I get headaches which is like once every couple weeks. I highly doubt it is putting me at increased risk of cardiac arrest or is at all dangerous.
RE: Eh...  
Greg from LI : 3/16/2017 9:24 pm : link
In comment 13395770 RC02XX said:
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Hundreds of thousands of military routinely take Motrin for your routine twisted ankle during training to sunken chest wound and blown off limbs (not really but really...haha). It's a cure all according to our Navy corpmen and medics.

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Don't forget the water. Motrin and water cures all.
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UConn4523 : 3/16/2017 9:45 pm : link
In comment 13395810 shelovesnycsports said:
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the things people take ibuprofen for.

If you have a headache or muscle ache and take 2 Advil, I find it very hard to believe you increase your heart attack risk by 33% unless you are already at high risk for one (high BP, overweight, elderly, etc).



You would have to take very high doses to effect your heart.
Acetaminophen (Tylenol) is great for pain management as well like any drug on controlled doses. unless you have liver problems.


The amount of aspirin suggested for heart health isn't close to what people take for headaches. Using your 81mg as an example, most people I know would need 2 extra strength (1,000mg) for a headache or aches and pains.
Here's another article with some more info  
Ira : 3/16/2017 9:49 pm : link
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shelovesnycsports : 3/16/2017 9:55 pm : link
In comment 13395834 UConn4523 said:
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the things people take ibuprofen for.

If you have a headache or muscle ache and take 2 Advil, I find it very hard to believe you increase your heart attack risk by 33% unless you are already at high risk for one (high BP, overweight, elderly, etc).



You would have to take very high doses to effect your heart.
Acetaminophen (Tylenol) is great for pain management as well like any drug on controlled doses. unless you have liver problems.



The amount of aspirin suggested for heart health isn't close to what people take for headaches. Using your 81mg as an example, most people I know would need 2 extra strength (1,000mg) for a headache or aches and pains.


A low dose aspirin regimen keeps the same levels of aspirin in your system so you don't have to shock it with high doses. You stay more even helps you cope with managing the pain. Again this for those who abuse other drugs like Ibuprofen and Acetaminophen. lots of Aspirin in high doses can do terrible things to your stomach.

This survey had to be done on high doses and people who abused the drugs.

Also if you are getting headaches all the time not due to injury you really need to be checked. Early warning signs to bigger things should not be ignored.
What NIH has to say  
Jim in Fairfax : 3/16/2017 10:04 pm : link
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I'm not speaking for me  
UConn4523 : 3/16/2017 10:06 pm : link
I'm speaking in general, if someone gets headaches or is an athlete and has muscle pains, they need a higher dose than what you are suggesting. Keeping a constant low dosage won't help a migraine. I don't really know what you are arguing to be honest.
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shelovesnycsports : 3/16/2017 10:29 pm : link
In comment 13395864 UConn4523 said:
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I'm speaking in general, if someone gets headaches or is an athlete and has muscle pains, they need a higher dose than what you are suggesting. Keeping a constant low dosage won't help a migraine. I don't really know what you are arguing to be honest.

if you are getting Migraine headaches alot or are an athlete who has an injuries than you need more than over the counter drugs.
right now I am just bored and killing time.
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RC02XX : 3/16/2017 10:59 pm : link
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Hundreds of thousands of military routinely take Motrin for your routine twisted ankle during training to sunken chest wound and blown off limbs (not really but really...haha). It's a cure all according to our Navy corpmen and medics.

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Don't forget the water. Motrin and water cures all.


Don't forget to change your socks as well. You have to take care of your feet!
Is this a fucking joke?  
Knineteen : 3/16/2017 11:33 pm : link
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The drugs should not be sold in supermarkets or petrol stations, and should only be available on prescription, they said.

That's the second sentence of the article. Who is "they"?!
Is this like an inside joke going over my head?

It's well known that Ibuprofen increases heart attack risk...this isn't news.
No, we don't need prescriptions for ibuprofen  
buford : 3/17/2017 6:39 am : link
I was probably one of those people who 'abused' it. I used to get raging headaches and would take it a lot. It likely damaged my intestines and caused 'rebound' headaches. It was tough to stop taking it, but I did. Now I take Tylenol. Tylenol can also cause problems with your liver if you drink while taking it. Every drug has some kind of risk. You have to read the labels and take them seriously. Also stop reading all of these studies that are basically meaningless.
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feelflows : 3/17/2017 6:42 am : link
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Hundreds of thousands of military routinely take Motrin for your routine twisted ankle during training to sunken chest wound and blown off limbs (not really but really...haha). It's a cure all according to our Navy corpmen and medics.

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You have to take care of your feet!


Take good care of your feet, Pete
You better watch out what you eat, Pete
Better take care of your life
'Cause nobody else will
RE: Eh...  
Jonald : 3/17/2017 6:45 am : link
In comment 13395770 RC02XX said:
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Hundreds of thousands of military routinely take Motrin for your routine twisted ankle during training to sunken chest wound and blown off limbs (not really but really...haha). It's a cure all according to our Navy corpmen and medics.

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I'm pretty sure that should be sucking chest wound.
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section125 : 3/17/2017 7:31 am : link
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Hundreds of thousands of military routinely take Motrin for your routine twisted ankle during training to sunken chest wound and blown off limbs (not really but really...haha). It's a cure all according to our Navy corpmen and medics.

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I'm pretty sure that should be sucking chest wound.


RC was a Marine. They suck at nothing.....
It's be nice if they linked the actual studies instead of  
Wuphat : 3/17/2017 7:39 am : link
another tabloid

This is sadly what passes for science journalism anymore.

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Jonald : 3/17/2017 7:47 am : link
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In comment 13395770 RC02XX said:


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Hundreds of thousands of military routinely take Motrin for your routine twisted ankle during training to sunken chest wound and blown off limbs (not really but really...haha). It's a cure all according to our Navy corpmen and medics.

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I'm pretty sure that should be sucking chest wound.



RC was a Marine. They suck at nothing.....


No way RC was a Marine. Source?
The New York Post republishing The Sun about medicine?  
Mr. Bungle : 3/17/2017 8:47 am : link
That's like Skip Bayless reciting an Adam Schein article about the Giants.
RE: What NIH has to say  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/17/2017 9:02 am : link
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thanks for posting that Jim
One thing you do have to be careful of with Ibiprofen  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 11:42 am : link
Is taking it while on Prednisone. That combo caused me to have a perforated intestine wall and in the hospital for 5 days
I won't take IB anymore  
montanagiant : 3/17/2017 11:44 am : link
Naproxen works longer and less issues
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