Now, I've been seeing a lot of contracts lately where there's guaranteed money as roster bonuses in year 2 and 3 - is that included in the 'guaranteed' portion, or is that part of the overall?
If he's getting $34M in first 11 mo and 20 is the SB, then his salary is $14 million in the first 2 years? So something like this?
20M SB
Year 1 salary-6M(11M cap hit)
Year 2 salary-8M(13M cap hit)
Year 3 salary-13M(partially gtd)(18M cap hit)
Year 4 salary-19M(24M cap hit, 5M dead money if released)
For the Giants and a great job by Jerry Reese. Now if we can add another pass rusher and a defensive tackle, this defense will be something to watch, I also would not be surprised to see a free safety added also.
On offense we all know we need a pass catching tight end, a running back, and 2 offensive linemen would be nice. A tackle and a guard/tackle swing man. I loved last years draft and I think they should and will take the same approach. I also love the fact that McAdoo has a year under his belt, and he is much more experienced moving forward this season.
I also like his mentality, he wants to control the lines of scrimmage. It's a fun time to be a Giants fan, we just have to pray for good health, that is the thing that can kill us. We are overdue for some run of luck in that area.
And supposedly he came back early from vacation, does that mean they got this done now in conjunction with another impending deal to get cap space (Hankins?)?
Agreed. He was obviously being facetious, especially given his reference to trading him to the Browns for Thomas and one of their second round picks. That "hypothetical" trade has been discussed many times during the last few weeks.
That means he gets a guaranteed roster bonus in February of next year which will be amortized over the remaining three years of the deal.
for example...
$20M signing bonus today. (guaranteed money)
$3.5M salary in year 1 (guaranteed)--8.5M cap hit
$10.5M roster bonus in February 2018 (guaranteed)
$6M salary in year 2 (guaranteed)--14.5M cap hit
$9.5M salary in year 3--18M cap hit
$12.5M salary in year 4--21M cap hit.
and first 11 months might not include his 2nd year base salary since he technically doesn't get that until September 2018. So the $34M could just be his SB ($20M) plus his first year salary, plus a 2018 roster bonus.
Milton is guessing based on the little information
and first 11 months might not include his 2nd year base salary since he technically doesn't get that until September 2018. So the $34M could just be his SB ($20M) plus his first year salary, plus a 2018 roster bonus.
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On his 4-yr, $62M deal worth up to $66M, #Giants star JPP has a $20M signing bonus. He earns $34M within 11 mos & $49.5M over the 1st 3 yrs
Sounds about right, 5/52 vs 4/40.
Vernon's cap hit was very reasonable in year 1 though, wonder if they do the same with JPP.
20M SB
Year 1 salary-6M(11M cap hit)
Year 2 salary-8M(13M cap hit)
Year 3 salary-13M(partially gtd)(18M cap hit)
Year 4 salary-19M(24M cap hit, 5M dead money if released)
Meaning we likely just freed up $10 million in cap space ($17MM franchise tag hit - ($5mm signing bonus + $2mm salary)
I'm here all week, folks.
$10MM from his signing bonus
$4MM first year salary
$13MM year 2 salary
$7MM year 2 roster bonus (due in february)
That opens up about $10mil in cap space and gives us more flexibility in the draft.
LOT is handled, the offense is much improved and no way anyone can project which way we'll go in the draft.
They can go either side of the ball now. I would sign Hank and then go LB, DE, RB and TE in the draft.
That opens up about $10mil in cap space and gives us more flexibility in the draft.
LOT is handled, the offense is much improved and no way anyone can project which way we'll go in the draft.
They can go either side of the ball now. I would sign Hank and then go LB, DE, RB and TE in the draft.
You obviously dont know how contracts work. Once the contract is signed, JPP is literally untradeable until year 3 at the earliest.
His entire signing bonus would be accelerated to the Giants cap the moment he was traded.
We only could have traded him if he played under the Franchise tag, because that is no bonus and all salary
That opens up about $10mil in cap space and gives us more flexibility in the draft.
LOT is handled, the offense is much improved and no way anyone can project which way we'll go in the draft.
They can go either side of the ball now. I would sign Hank and then go LB, DE, RB and TE in the draft.
Great idea! Then his 40m guaranteed accelerates to this year and the Giants go over the cap by $30m+!!
Thank you! LOL!
Seems a bit much for "kidding".
On offense we all know we need a pass catching tight end, a running back, and 2 offensive linemen would be nice. A tackle and a guard/tackle swing man. I loved last years draft and I think they should and will take the same approach. I also love the fact that McAdoo has a year under his belt, and he is much more experienced moving forward this season.
I also like his mentality, he wants to control the lines of scrimmage. It's a fun time to be a Giants fan, we just have to pray for good health, that is the thing that can kill us. We are overdue for some run of luck in that area.
Agreed. He was obviously being facetious, especially given his reference to trading him to the Browns for Thomas and one of their second round picks. That "hypothetical" trade has been discussed many times during the last few weeks.
for example...
$20M signing bonus today. (guaranteed money)
$3.5M salary in year 1 (guaranteed)--8.5M cap hit
$10.5M roster bonus in February 2018 (guaranteed)
$6M salary in year 2 (guaranteed)--14.5M cap hit
$9.5M salary in year 3--18M cap hit
$12.5M salary in year 4--21M cap hit.
This^^^
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based on the various threads started on bbi.
Seems a bit much for "kidding".
Sorry BillT
This sounds right