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At what round should we draft a Line Backer.....

Blue Angel : 3/17/2017 6:32 pm
Time to create a STRANGLING DEFENSE like the one the Ravens had when they beat the Giants in the Super Bowl.
Reddick in the first!!!  
Simms11 : 3/17/2017 6:37 pm : link
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annexOPR : 3/17/2017 6:38 pm : link
said in another thread, but this defense could be truly special with a stud LB flying around behind snacks/jpp/vernon. jenkins/drc/apple locking down WRs, and collins taking the heads off whoever dares catching the ball.

depending on who's available obviously, but this might be the year for 1st round LB.

I wouldn't expect one  
Cenotaph : 3/17/2017 6:45 pm : link
before 3rd or 4th....Giants just don't seem to value LB very highly in our D scheme. Mainly DL and CB - and Collins is a huge boost from the S spot. Plus we invested a ton of $ in D, we have more holes on O that we should aim for low round (OL, TE, even RB though I'd rather a RB later). Even DT would be a need if Hank is not back. Wouldn't be surprised if they grab a LB at some point, but probably not in the 1st 2-3 rounds...
Reese was present at Vanderbilt Pro Day  
Rjanyg : 3/17/2017 6:53 pm : link
Cunningham would have fun playing with this defense
'At what round should we draft a Line Backer'....  
Torrag : 3/17/2017 6:57 pm : link
Any where we have a belief in the player.
Jarrad Davis and Zach Cunningham?  
colin : 3/17/2017 7:13 pm : link
How do you guys think these 2 project to the NFL. I really like Davis, but don't know much about the injury that seems to be the big red flag.
Funny, that's not a question I'd even think about.  
81_Great_Dane : 3/17/2017 7:22 pm : link
I'm more concerned about whether Goodson pans out. I just want them to get really good players out of the draft, I don't care what position, or what round, or any of it. Just give me some great guys to watch...
Any round after they draft an oline man in 1st!  
SterlingArcher : 3/17/2017 7:26 pm : link
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I wonder what...  
Milton : 3/17/2017 7:27 pm : link
...a kickass 3-techniqe DT could mean to this defense. And they seem to come from anywhere in the draft, just not that often. The Giants keep trying (Alford, Austin, Bromley) but they haven't hit on one yet.
Day three  
dk in TX : 3/17/2017 7:33 pm : link
We have more urgent OL,TE,DE, DT,RB and CB needs. Just resign Robinson, promote Goodson and draft a LB on day three.
They have so many needs on offense.  
Giant John : 3/17/2017 7:54 pm : link
TE, guard, OT, running back, wide receiver (yes that's what I said). Throw in a CB and LB and we are done.
Beckham, Marshall, Shepard  
annexOPR : 3/17/2017 8:13 pm : link
almost every team in the NFL would kill to have a "need" at WR like this
RE: Beckham, Marshall, Shepard  
dk in TX : 3/17/2017 9:01 pm : link
In comment 13397610 annexOPR said:
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almost every team in the NFL would kill to have a "need" at WR like this


The Giants have Marshall for only two years. We need to start developing a you good big WR.
agreed  
annexOPR : 3/17/2017 9:12 pm : link
the giants also have a top 3 WR and Shepard - who I think will develop into a great slot WR, so "need" is subjective.

marshall is a "win now" move for sure - but WR is 1 of the last positions I'm worried about going forward
You = young  
dk in TX : 3/17/2017 11:19 pm : link
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RE: RE: Beckham, Marshall, Shepard  
adamg : 3/18/2017 12:58 am : link
In comment 13397649 dk in TX said:
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In comment 13397610 annexOPR said:


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almost every team in the NFL would kill to have a "need" at WR like this



The Giants have Marshall for only two years. We need to start developing a you good big WR.


ArDarius Stewart from Alabama fits that. Raw but possibly the most physically gifted WR in the Draft. Wouldn't mind him in the third.

Not a big fan of Jarrad Davis for us. Ideally Reddick is my draftmance but Cunningham would be nice too. They both have that agility combined with size that looks like it would boost the front seven and give us a scary player in the LB corps outside of Kennard (who really is only scary as a pass rusher). Davis looks like a pure MLB. And I think Goodson might be a really good two down MLB.
Give me Jarrad Davis in Round 1  
Optimus-NY : 3/18/2017 4:01 am : link
He'd add a whole new dimension to this D. Love this kid.
What I think will happen?  
Sy'56 : 3/18/2017 7:31 am : link
NYG will wait until day three and try to scoop up an athletic, pass rush potential type.

What I want to happen?

Look for a value as soon as round 1. Names like Reddick/Davis/Foster/McMillan/Beckwith.

It strongly depends on the outlook of BJ Goodson. Is he their future Will? Mike? We can't watch JT Thomas anymore.

Kennard is a rock...nothing great but he can play the SAM role for as long as he wants to stay here. A fresh, aggressive WILL would be nice.
I strongly disagree with this Goodson  
NikkiMac : 3/18/2017 9:16 am : link
Stuff.Many people on bbi have this kid penciled in at MLB

Yet I didn't see much out of this guy and he doesn't seem like a sideline to sideline guy ... Does he play special teams ? Some people act like he's a pro bowler I don't get it did I miss something last year

Nobody might have liked Kelvin Shepard but one thing he was good at was getting everybody in that front seven lined up right which is very important that's what Antonio Pierce was real good at ......
Sheppard  
XBRONX : 3/18/2017 10:19 am : link
stunk playing the run. So much for getting people in place.
RE: What I think will happen?  
Klaatu : 3/18/2017 10:28 am : link
In comment 13397827 Sy'56 said:
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NYG will wait until day three and try to scoop up an athletic, pass rush potential type.


And now you know why I asked you about late-round OLBs a few days ago.
Goodsen was not my pick nor have I seen anything there yet  
idiotsavant : 3/18/2017 10:47 am : link
Having said that, I see this D as predicated on heroics on the DL and cover at the corner.

Don't be surprised if you see INTs by our safeties next year.

If I HAD to pick any defensive player early this draft it would to me, clearly, be a DT. That is first in order to get the football near him as a player during each play, and more directly enhances the strength of a unit, the DL, and more fits our NFCE situation.

Montravious Adams jumps to mind.

And never say never on a 5-0-6
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annexOPR : 3/18/2017 10:48 am : link
an athletic WLB would make this defense almost impossible to move the ball on


simply put, we are 'closer to'  
idiotsavant : 3/18/2017 10:52 am : link
greatness on DL than we are at LB, therefor you go for which is the more likely to get you to great.
the DL is great  
annexOPR : 3/18/2017 10:55 am : link
the secondary is great

I like Kennard @ SLB, add an athletic Will and this defense is about as perfect as could be in the salary cap era
annex  
idiotsavant : 3/18/2017 10:57 am : link
an athletic LB -may- have made -last years- defense impossible to move the ball on.

next season we may be missing a big piece. Hank. Even if you think Bromley = Hank (not) there are # of reps to consider at very least.

I am hinting at a DL that is as solid as last years but with the added ability to rush the passer from interior gaps - with regularity.
my view is that with the advent of super quick release pass games  
idiotsavant : 3/18/2017 11:00 am : link
one needs the ability to not only stop the run but also get into the interior gaps super quick-like to counter the timing of pass release.

We are SO close to epic greatness on DL...so close...lets go for it!
You have to give Goodson a shot  
PatersonPlank : 3/18/2017 11:33 am : link
Just because a 4th rounder doesn't start immediately doesn't mean we forget about him. BBI does this a lot. Last year was like his freshman year in college. This year and next year will tell, but to dismiss him isn't right. We do this with every draft choice, be it Goodson, Adams, Hart, a bunch of DBs, Bromley, etc.
fair point  
annexOPR : 3/18/2017 11:52 am : link
I'm less concerned about MLB for those exact reasons and while I like Hankins, I don't think he'll be that big of a loss on the DL. Snacks JPP Vernon and _______ is an excellent DL. [I actually think Hankins comes back to reality and may even end up back here. no one is paying his ridiculous current demands]

I was thinking an investment into a speedy WLB would make sense to stop the 1 weakness this defense seemingly has had since HDTV has been readily available - covering a #!%@* tight end in man coverage




We have seven Linebackers on the roster now.  
Klaatu : 3/18/2017 1:04 pm : link
Of those seven, only four have a reasonable chance of making the final 53. The rest are most likely camp fodder/practice squad players.

So, the Giants will most likely sign a lower-priced free agent (or two), which may not happen until after the draft, but my hope is that they'll address the position in the draft itself. We could at least use a fast, athletic WILL with pass-rush ability, and a versatile kid who can play multiple LB positions as well as special teams.
Sounds like Zach Cunningham to me  
bigfish703 : 3/18/2017 8:53 pm : link

So, the Giants will most likely sign a lower-priced free agent (or two), which may not happen until after the draft, but my hope is that they'll address the position in the draft itself. We could at least use a fast, athletic WILL with pass-rush ability, and a versatile kid who can play multiple LB positions as well as special teams. [/quote]
Cunningham Goodson Kenard?  
annexOPR : 3/19/2017 10:02 am : link
Would finally be an interesting LB corp at least
I didn't think the Giants were allowed to pick a LB in the 1st Round  
Jimmy Googs : 3/19/2017 10:34 am : link
based on past few decades of drafts.

League-imposed rule or something I figured...
RE: Sheppard  
NikkiMac : 3/25/2017 8:30 am : link
In comment 13397933 XBRONX said:
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stunk playing the run. So much for getting people in place.


Well I never said he got himself lined up but got everybody else LOL
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