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NFT: NCAA Tourny: Round 2 (part 1)

superspynyg : 3/18/2017 9:28 am
ND takes on UVA at 12:10 UVA favored by 2.5. Need an upset here! LETS GO IRISH!!!!!

other good matchups are
Virginia vs Florida 8:40
Villanova vs Wisconsin at 2:40
Gonzaga vs NW at 5:15
Xavier vs FSU 6:10
Arizona vs St Mary's 7:45
Iowa St vs Perdue 9:40
Middle Tenn vs Butler 7:10



We're playing Notre Dame AND Florida?  
Greg from LI : 3/18/2017 9:31 am : link
Jeez, talk about a rough day
I'd love to see Northwestern  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/18/2017 9:31 am : link
beat Gonzaga, unlikely as it might be. Northwestern is a great story.
RE: We're playing Notre Dame AND Florida?  
superspynyg : 3/18/2017 9:36 am : link
In comment 13397891 Greg from LI said:
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Jeez, talk about a rough day


Run the gambit!!!

ND vs WVU

my bad
Loads of good games.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/18/2017 10:08 am : link
Nova v. Wisconsin is going to be really interesting.
If we go into  
Jon in NYC : 3/18/2017 10:12 am : link
one of our patented shooting slumps, it's over, but I low key think we could be a pretty good matchup, with two strong low post scorers.
Bray needs to find something  
bigbluehoya : 3/18/2017 1:10 pm : link
To force WV into tougher shots. Half court offense is supposed to be WV's weakness but they're taking ND apart inside.

Free throw shooting could keep it interesting but ND has not been impressive in the least.
Well..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/18/2017 1:30 pm : link
Bucknell came back against WVU to make it a game. Maybe the team with impeccable academic standards and playing by the rules can do it too.

Or is that repetitive since I already mentioned Bucknell?
ND is toast  
bigbluehoya : 3/18/2017 1:30 pm : link
If they don't drain these open looks when they get them
RE: ND is toast  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/18/2017 1:41 pm : link
In comment 13398128 bigbluehoya said:
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If they don't drain these open looks when they get them


Mookie -- you gotta make a call to the bench here and straighten these ND guys out
I hated doing it because I dislike ND  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 2:07 pm : link
But I had them going to the final 4, looking like I should have listened to my initial gut feeling
RE: I hated doing it because I dislike ND  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/18/2017 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13398159 montanagiant said:
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But I had them going to the final 4, looking like I should have listened to my initial gut feeling


I had them going to the Final Four too. Not looking good right now.
i watched zero WVU games this year  
Ned In Atlanta : 3/18/2017 2:21 pm : link
but they look like they are going to be a damn tough out
Fucking ND..what a shit show  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 2:23 pm : link
..
Next year will be 40 years  
B in ALB : 3/18/2017 2:26 pm : link
since ND made a Final Four. Brutal.
haha  
MetsAreBack : 3/18/2017 2:29 pm : link
Cruzin can go join B at the kiddie table now... or whatever the fuck Rocky was talking about the past 2 days.
RE: Next year will be 40 years  
Mike in NY : 3/18/2017 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13398176 B in ALB said:
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since ND made a Final Four. Brutal.


I didn't see Notre Dame losing to Ole Miss in the NIT
RE: Next year will be 40 years  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 2:30 pm : link
In comment 13398176 B in ALB said:
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since ND made a Final Four. Brutal.

Where did Rocky go?
Rocky is crying in his  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/18/2017 2:34 pm : link
whatever he's drinkin today -- he had ND winning it all in the BBI tournament Bracket Pool -- I hope he didn't have money on this
Ha. Hahaha.  
Greg from LI : 3/18/2017 2:37 pm : link
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As a Nova alum  
The_Boss : 3/18/2017 2:38 pm : link
Wisconsin scares the crap out of me. They are better than what an 8 seed should be.
RE: Rocky is crying in his  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 2:49 pm : link
In comment 13398186 gidiefor said:
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whatever he's drinkin today -- he had ND winning it all in the BBI tournament Bracket Pool -- I hope he didn't have money on this
Oh can absorb it since he claimed he made so much on the other games..lol
RE: RE: Next year will be 40 years  
B in ALB : 3/18/2017 2:51 pm : link
In comment 13398180 montanagiant said:
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In comment 13398176 B in ALB said:


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since ND made a Final Four. Brutal.


Where did Rocky go?


Who cares? Dude is a delusional loser.
RE: RE: Next year will be 40 years  
B in ALB : 3/18/2017 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13398178 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13398176 B in ALB said:


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since ND made a Final Four. Brutal.



I didn't see Notre Dame losing to Ole Miss in the NIT


Awww. Boo hoo. What that 40 year streak got to do with Cuse? Nothing.

Don't be a sore loser. Sorry your team lost man.
Wisconsin beating on Nova  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/18/2017 3:04 pm : link
dangerous game developing
After hearing about how awesome ND..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/18/2017 3:10 pm : link
and Duke are, it is pretty damn satisfying to see my alma mater put up a better fight against WVU than a second-tier ACC team.

And Bucknell does it without giving out athletic scholarships.
Nova playing catchup the entire first half  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/18/2017 3:51 pm : link
their shooting % has to be below 25% -- down by 4 at the half

Wisconsin is playing like they belong - they look must more at ease out there
RE: Nova playing catchup the entire first half  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/18/2017 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13398259 gidiefor said:
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their shooting % has to be below 25% -- down by 4 at the half

Wisconsin is playing like they belong - they look must more at ease out there


I enjoyed watching them foul over and over again.
RE: Nova playing catchup the entire first half  
The_Boss : 3/18/2017 3:59 pm : link
In comment 13398259 gidiefor said:
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their shooting % has to be below 25% -- down by 4 at the half

Wisconsin is playing like they belong - they look must more at ease out there


Nobody is playing well for Nova right now other than Hart and DiVincenzo. Jenkins has been off since just before the Virginia game and based on his play today, that worm is not going to turn anytime soon. We're down 4. Could have been 10. The concern level is high right now.
Simple as knowing the sport  
Davisian : 3/18/2017 4:27 pm : link
Yup, tanked.
Nova takes the lead  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/18/2017 4:29 pm : link
43 - 40
RE: Nova takes the lead  
The_Boss : 3/18/2017 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13398304 gidiefor said:
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43 - 40


Build a lead. Their best big guys are on the bench.
RE: i watched zero WVU games this year  
batman11 : 3/18/2017 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13398171 Ned In Atlanta said:
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but they look like they are going to be a damn tough out


...if they continue to let them foul on almost every possesion. It is a great strategy used by a lot of the really good pressing teams (Louisville, VCU, etc), not to mention a lot of the good high school teams in the NYC CHSAA. It allows you to get away with about half of the fouls you commmit, because they can't/won't call everything.
Anyone else thing  
DomerGiant2008 : 3/18/2017 4:45 pm : link
that this is one of the worst games we've seen Brey coach in a long time?

It was painfully obvious that Beechum had ZERO confidence in his shot and his being on the floor was hurting the team. WVU was leaving him wide open on purpose just begging him to shoot.

Gibbs clearly could not handle the press. Not sure what the problem was ... maybe just a freshman being nervous, but he clearly couldn't get it done and had about 5 turnovers (and that stupid technical that killed all our momentum).

Matt Ryan was playing a good, hard game and he is a pretty deadly shooter when he gets wide open looks. I can't for the life of me understand why Brey wouldn't put him in for Beech in the 2nd half.
Wisconsin with the lead  
B in ALB : 3/18/2017 4:58 pm : link
Uh oh.
This is going to come down  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 5:03 pm : link
To a nail biter
Good ending here  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/18/2017 5:03 pm : link
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Wisconsin was lucky to avoid an intentional foul there  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 5:07 pm : link
Should have been one
This is a helluva  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/18/2017 5:08 pm : link
Game.
What a game  
RobCarpenter : 3/18/2017 5:08 pm : link
Come on Wisconsin
all tied up  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/18/2017 5:08 pm : link
20.6 secs - Wisconsin with the ball
Pretty move  
RobCarpenter : 3/18/2017 5:09 pm : link
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That was a sweet move by Hayes  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 5:10 pm : link
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Score - up by 2  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/18/2017 5:10 pm : link
11 secs left 64-62 Wisconsin
TO  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/18/2017 5:12 pm : link
That may be the game - 3.4 secs
Nice non-call by refs  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 5:12 pm : link
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If Villanova loses  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 5:12 pm : link
they will be furious with the refs after Hayes got away with an intentional foul
Nova goes down!!  
micky : 3/18/2017 5:13 pm : link
boom goes dynamite!
Congrats Jon in NYC  
B in ALB : 3/18/2017 5:13 pm : link
That's gotta feel good. Enjoy.

And Villanova shits the bed. Another 2nd round loss.
Sweeeet  
UConn4523 : 3/18/2017 5:14 pm : link
good job Wisco!
Wow  
RobCarpenter : 3/18/2017 5:14 pm : link
Lots of brackets are now wrecked
OMG!  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/18/2017 5:14 pm : link
Wisconsin Wins!!!!!
Well I'm still bitter about last year's Final so its fine  
MetsAreBack : 3/18/2017 5:15 pm : link

but it is annoying that this is Duke's region to lose now.
10 out of 34  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/18/2017 5:16 pm : link
in our Pool had Nova going all the way
Nova playing in MSG would've made for a great crowd too.  
Mad Mike : 3/18/2017 5:16 pm : link
Cést la vie.
Neat  
Jon in NYC : 3/18/2017 5:16 pm : link
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RE: Congrats Jon in NYC  
Jon in NYC : 3/18/2017 5:17 pm : link
In comment 13398371 B in ALB said:
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That's gotta feel good. Enjoy.

And Villanova shits the bed. Another 2nd round loss.


Thanks man. I'm so stoked right now.
Duke now the prohibitive favorite in the East region  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 5:17 pm : link
it's them versus the field now
RE: If Villanova loses  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/18/2017 5:19 pm : link
In comment 13398369 dpinzow said:
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they will be furious with the refs after Hayes got away with an intentional foul


Wisconsin fouled from the opening tip to the last play. And I was rooting for them.

This is also another example of bad seeding by the committee. Nova gets Wisconsin as an 8 when they should've been the 5 or 6 that Minnesota and Maryland.
Now Duke will win the region.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/18/2017 5:20 pm : link
Goddammit.
Glad that  
Jay in Toronto : 3/18/2017 5:20 pm : link
Bronson and Nigel have at least one more game in their college career.

Two classy young men.
LOL..Two of my Final Fours out with the first two games today  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 5:21 pm : link
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17 out of 34 had Nova in the finals  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/18/2017 5:21 pm : link
no one - no one - had Wisconsin winning this game
But Gard did a masterful job  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/18/2017 5:21 pm : link
of stealing minutes with Koenig and Happ in foul trouble. Great coaching job in that regard.
Calling the region  
Jon in NYC : 3/18/2017 5:21 pm : link
Duke's is just dumb. Baylor, then the winner of Wisconsin vs Virginia/Florida? Far from a cakewalk.
unreal  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/18/2017 5:22 pm : link
!!!
RE: Calling the region  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 5:24 pm : link
In comment 13398394 Jon in NYC said:
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Duke's is just dumb. Baylor, then the winner of Wisconsin vs Virginia/Florida? Far from a cakewalk.


Those teams would have to play an A game and Duke would have to play a C game for Duke to lose
RE: LOL..Two of my Final Fours out with the first two games today  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/18/2017 5:25 pm : link
In comment 13398391 montanagiant said:
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Me too pal. Me too.
RE: RE: Calling the region  
Jon in NYC : 3/18/2017 5:26 pm : link
In comment 13398400 dpinzow said:
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In comment 13398394 Jon in NYC said:


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Duke's is just dumb. Baylor, then the winner of Wisconsin vs Virginia/Florida? Far from a cakewalk.



Those teams would have to play an A game and Duke would have to play a C game for Duke to lose


Wisconsin just played a C game and beat Nova.

Either way, I'm too happy to bicker over this shit. So fucking ecstatic.
RE: RE: RE: Calling the region  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 5:26 pm : link
In comment 13398404 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 13398400 dpinzow said:


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In comment 13398394 Jon in NYC said:


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Duke's is just dumb. Baylor, then the winner of Wisconsin vs Virginia/Florida? Far from a cakewalk.



Those teams would have to play an A game and Duke would have to play a C game for Duke to lose



Wisconsin just played a C game and beat Nova.

Either way, I'm too happy to bicker over this shit. So fucking ecstatic.


Wisconsin played their best game of the season to beat Nova
Wisconsin's C game was losing to Northwestern at home  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 5:27 pm : link
and getting destroyed by Michigan in the Big Ten tournament. Their C game gets them beat by 20 against Nova
RE: Wisconsin's C game was losing to Northwestern at home  
Jon in NYC : 3/18/2017 5:28 pm : link
In comment 13398407 dpinzow said:
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and getting destroyed by Michigan in the Big Ten tournament. Their C game gets them beat by 20 against Nova


2 best players missed major stretches. 7-16 from the freethrow line. Double their usual turnovers. Stop it.

Maybe Villanova played a bad game, but Wisconsin was far from their best.
RE: RE: If Villanova loses  
MetsAreBack : 3/18/2017 5:29 pm : link
In comment 13398386 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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This is also another example of bad seeding by the committee. Nova gets Wisconsin as an 8 when they should've been the 5 or 6 that Minnesota and Maryland.


Agree. At an absolute minimum, both Northwestern and Wisconsin were seeded 8th. Same geographies more or less, same conference obviously. Wisconsin finished 2 games ahead of NW in conference play and overall record.

Safe to say Wisconsin then would be a higher 8 seed... than Northwestern. So then why the fuck would you have the #1 overall seed in the tournament play the better 8 seed than what Gonzaga, overall #4 in the tournament, plays later today?

But obviously i agree with you that they should have been a 6 or 7 seed to begin with. I'd have given Wichita State the 5 seed, dropped Minnesota to 7 or 8, and dropped Vanderbilt to a 10.
RE: Now Duke will win the region.  
The_Boss : 3/18/2017 5:32 pm : link
In comment 13398388 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Goddammit.


Every other team is a damn speed bump for Duke the rest of the way.
RE: RE: RE: If Villanova loses  
The_Boss : 3/18/2017 5:39 pm : link
In comment 13398410 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 13398386 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:


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This is also another example of bad seeding by the committee. Nova gets Wisconsin as an 8 when they should've been the 5 or 6 that Minnesota and Maryland.



Agree. At an absolute minimum, both Northwestern and Wisconsin were seeded 8th. Same geographies more or less, same conference obviously. Wisconsin finished 2 games ahead of NW in conference play and overall record.

Safe to say Wisconsin then would be a higher 8 seed... than Northwestern. So then why the fuck would you have the #1 overall seed in the tournament play the better 8 seed than what Gonzaga, overall #4 in the tournament, plays later today?

But obviously i agree with you that they should have been a 6 or 7 seed to begin with. I'd have given Wichita State the 5 seed, dropped Minnesota to 7 or 8, and dropped Vanderbilt to a 10.


When the bracket was announced I said immediately the NCAA F'ed Villanova. Top overall seed and to get a matchup vs a team that was better than a damn 8 seed? I can deal with losing. There is no shame losing next week at msg if that happens. When the 2nd seed (Duke) has an easier half of the bracket than the top overall seed, something isn't right.
courtesy of Art Stapleton's bracket  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/18/2017 5:44 pm : link
And, of course, the real 8 seed Nova should have drawn in the East  
The_Boss : 3/18/2017 6:08 pm : link
Is getting their asses kicked.
Thanks NCAA.
In I guess related news...  
MetsAreBack : 3/18/2017 6:33 pm : link
Illinois hires Brad Underwood as HC away from Oklahoma State just one year into his deal.

But of course, coach does not have to sit out a year...
Northwestern trying to fight back  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 7:21 pm : link
they were down at least 20 at one point and now they have 2 free throws to cut their deficit to 7. 6 minutes to go
Florida State down 10 at half  
MetsAreBack : 3/18/2017 7:24 pm : link
who would have thought the Power 5 conferences would do so well this year (particularly the SEC, Pac-10 and big 10)... but that the one conference to struggle would be the ACC.
NW right back in the game and Zaga reeling  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 7:24 pm : link
19 straight NW points
Chris Collins just got T'd up  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 7:25 pm : link
furious at a no call on a Gonzaga block with Northwestern down 5
Collins had a point  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 7:26 pm : link
that was goaltending; the Gonzaga defender put his hand through the hoop
Shitty call by the officials  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 7:27 pm : link
The Zaga defender had his arm through the net on that block
refs have been horrible down the stretch of this game  
nygiants16 : 3/18/2017 7:29 pm : link
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WTF with non Over the back calls on Zaga?"  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 7:29 pm : link
Could have called it twice
Great job refs  
B in ALB : 3/18/2017 7:32 pm : link
Fucking imbeciles. Make it about you. We all came to watch you.
The noncall tech was huge  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/18/2017 7:37 pm : link
Also Mcintosh playing way too fast now despite the three.
Gonzaga survives  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 7:48 pm : link
they will face a very tough test against West Virginia
Florida State getting absolutely crushed by Xavier  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 7:48 pm : link
Seminoles down 21 with 10 minutes left
That no call goaltending  
B in ALB : 3/18/2017 7:49 pm : link
And T completely ruined the game.
ACC taking it on the chin today  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 7:57 pm : link
ND beaten pretty comfortably by West Virginia
FSU getting hammered by Xavier
Virginia definitely up against it vs. Florida in Orlando
Catch the Steve Lavin comment in the Xavier game?  
Stan in LA : 3/18/2017 7:58 pm : link
After the black center for Xavier dunked, "He just did it gorilla style."

Uh-oh...
Acc is having a rough tournament not just Day  
MetsAreBack : 3/18/2017 8:05 pm : link
Already 5 teams eliminated and UVA has an uphill battle tonight too. No one has advanced to sweet 16 yet.

Meanwhile the much maligned Big 10, sec and pac 12 are doing very well
Great  
AcidTest : 3/18/2017 8:11 pm : link
win for Wisconsin.
Xavier looks like a 2 seed  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 8:12 pm : link
That is going to be a tough team to beat
Maybe Xavier is really good  
MetsAreBack : 3/18/2017 8:22 pm : link

But as good a season as they had, Leonard Hamilton should be ashamed of himself how his team played late in the year and in this tournament. That's terrible coaching. If I'm the AD I'm not at all happy. Losing happens but losing by 25 in Orlando - a halfway decent coach gets a lot more out of that FSU team than Hamilton did this year
The only reason Florida might win this game is Wilkins being sick  
Greg from LI : 3/18/2017 8:23 pm : link
Florida isn't a particularly impressive team
Well is Arizona doesn't wake up  
MetsAreBack : 3/18/2017 9:02 pm : link
I suppose I can kick back and watch the rest of this tournament with my feet up.

Crazy day of upsets - I suppose not surprising with all the chalk Thursday
This  
AcidTest : 3/18/2017 9:02 pm : link
game may end up in the thirties. UVA needs to get Guy and/or Jerome in the game. They have no three point shooting right now.
Shayock  
AcidTest : 3/18/2017 9:04 pm : link
comes in and hits a three. But Florida answers with a three of their won. Guy is also in for UVA.
Refs are calling every touch foul  
hitdog42 : 3/18/2017 9:06 pm : link
Makes some of these just brutal to watch
More  
AcidTest : 3/18/2017 9:19 pm : link
cold shooting from UVA.
RE: More  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 9:40 pm : link
In comment 13398568 AcidTest said:
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cold shooting from UVA.


17 points at halftime...frigid shooting
Arizona looks lethargic  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 9:51 pm : link
I think they're in big trouble
And as I say that they wake up a bit  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 9:59 pm : link
and take a 5 point lead on St. Mary's. Arizona will feel super confident if they get through playing an average game
37-17?  
B in ALB : 3/18/2017 9:59 pm : link
Holy shit.
Virginia....  
Jon in NYC : 3/18/2017 10:04 pm : link
not great.
RE: 37-17?  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 10:04 pm : link
In comment 13398596 B in ALB said:
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Holy shit.


ACC really getting hammered
28 points thru 3/4 of the game  
B in ALB : 3/18/2017 10:24 pm : link
Wow. That's offensive.
RE: Virginia....  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 10:26 pm : link
In comment 13398598 Jon in NYC said:
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not great.

They are brutal right now
Virginia  
AcidTest : 3/18/2017 10:29 pm : link
is terrible. Classic cold shooting. It has plagued them all season. 1-13 on threes. Good career for Perrantes. Sorry it has to end this way.
ACC better go 3-0 tomorrow  
MetsAreBack : 3/18/2017 10:32 pm : link
Or it may go down as most overrated conference of all time.

6 of 9 teams - gone. Two blown the fuck out of the building today alone.
Parrentes not sniffing his fingers  
B in ALB : 3/18/2017 10:33 pm : link
like an arrogant prick tonight. Holy awful.
Wow, Virginia is bad, really bad  
Kevin in CT : 3/18/2017 10:45 pm : link
Awful performance on this stage tonight.
39 points.  
B in ALB : 3/18/2017 10:47 pm : link
Whoa. That's horrific.
Tony Bennett era of Virginia basketball may have ended tonight.  
Meats and Cheeses : 3/18/2017 11:00 pm : link
Going to be an interesting week or two.
Yeah yeah  
B in ALB : 3/18/2017 11:04 pm : link
He's not going to Indiana. Find another post.
Purdue putting it on Iowa St  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 11:09 pm : link
Up 16 w/ 13.30 left
Seriously  
MetsAreBack : 3/18/2017 11:11 pm : link
I know Indiana is begging after 20 years to be relevant again but your best bets are Marshall (seems really pissed about being down seeded again) or playing UCLA heartstrings even though UCLA would pay more than you and offer better quality of life and for his kids life versus fuckin Bloomington
If Indiana  
Jon in NYC : 3/18/2017 11:16 pm : link
was smart they'd offer every penny they can to Gregg Marshall.

But they aren't, so they'll probably go hard after Alford.
Iowa St making it a game  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 11:21 pm : link
On a nice run have closed to within 7 of Purdue
Bizarre  
MetsAreBack : 3/18/2017 11:21 pm : link
How they've massively outdrawn Purdue in
Milwaukee tonight
St. Mary's played Zona a LOT tougher than I thought they would.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/18/2017 11:22 pm : link
They're just simply lacking in physical talent. I wouldn't be surprised if this was Randy Bennett's last game if the CAL job comes calling. He's done as much as he can with that program, which is a helluva lot.

My Zags had the same damn issue they've had several times this year in which they've let teams back into the game despite large second half leads (Arizona, Iowa State, even in the 1 game they lost they had a double digit 2nd half lead). Guys who really should know better at this point made ridiculous unforced errors in the second half. They obviously got lucky with the goal-tending play. The only defense I have of the officials is I (and a lot of other people watching and at the game) didn't even notice it... it happened that fast. I'm just happy to advance. I don't really give a shit if it looks good or not.
RE: If Indiana  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/18/2017 11:24 pm : link
In comment 13398629 Jon in NYC said:
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was smart they'd offer every penny they can to Gregg Marshall.

But they aren't, so they'll probably go hard after Alford.


I agree. However, I'm sure there are some people like Dan Dakich around the program, who made one of the most asinine comments I've ever heard this morning. These idiots would rather have "Knight guys" than the best coach available.
RE: Seriously  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 11:25 pm : link
In comment 13398626 MetsAreBack said:
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I know Indiana is begging after 20 years to be relevant again but your best bets are Marshall (seems really pissed about being down seeded again) or playing UCLA heartstrings even though UCLA would pay more than you and offer better quality of life and for his kids life versus fuckin Bloomington


Also, why would Alford leave UCLA when he knows he is getting the other two Ball brothers (unless he is sick of their dad and wants to get out of there, back to his alma mater)
RE: Bizarre  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 11:25 pm : link
In comment 13398636 MetsAreBack said:
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How they've massively outdrawn Purdue in
Milwaukee tonight

Iowa and Iowa St fans are notorious for traveling to follow their team in big games
RE: RE: Seriously  
Jon in NYC : 3/18/2017 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13398644 dpinzow said:
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In comment 13398626 MetsAreBack said:


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I know Indiana is begging after 20 years to be relevant again but your best bets are Marshall (seems really pissed about being down seeded again) or playing UCLA heartstrings even though UCLA would pay more than you and offer better quality of life and for his kids life versus fuckin Bloomington



Also, why would Alford leave UCLA when he knows he is getting the other two Ball brothers (unless he is sick of their dad and wants to get out of there, back to his alma mater)


The younger ball seems to be a prospect, but middle Ball doesn't look impressive at all. That isn't a reason to stay.
RE: RE: Seriously  
montanagiant : 3/18/2017 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13398644 dpinzow said:
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I know Indiana is begging after 20 years to be relevant again but your best bets are Marshall (seems really pissed about being down seeded again) or playing UCLA heartstrings even though UCLA would pay more than you and offer better quality of life and for his kids life versus fuckin Bloomington



Also, why would Alford leave UCLA when he knows he is getting the other two Ball brothers (unless he is sick of their dad and wants to get out of there, back to his alma mater)

Their dad is a fucking idiot, using his kid's talent to promote himself
RE: RE: Seriously  
MetsAreBack : 3/18/2017 11:27 pm : link
In comment 13398644 dpinzow said:
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I know Indiana is begging after 20 years to be relevant again but your best bets are Marshall (seems really pissed about being down seeded again) or playing UCLA heartstrings even though UCLA would pay more than you and offer better quality of life and for his kids life versus fuckin Bloomington



Also, why would Alford leave UCLA when he knows he is getting the other two Ball brothers (unless he is sick of their dad and wants to get out of there, back to his alma mater)


Agree. I would not leave UCLA for Indiana for any reason but that just pretty much cements it.
RE: RE: RE: Seriously  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 11:28 pm : link
In comment 13398646 Jon in NYC said:
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I know Indiana is begging after 20 years to be relevant again but your best bets are Marshall (seems really pissed about being down seeded again) or playing UCLA heartstrings even though UCLA would pay more than you and offer better quality of life and for his kids life versus fuckin Bloomington



Also, why would Alford leave UCLA when he knows he is getting the other two Ball brothers (unless he is sick of their dad and wants to get out of there, back to his alma mater)



The younger ball seems to be a prospect, but middle Ball doesn't look impressive at all. That isn't a reason to stay.


And when Alford figures that out and doesn't start the middle Ball brother, the dad will ask for him to be fired. Maybe Alford would rather go home again instead of dealing with the lavar ball circus
RE: RE: RE: RE: Seriously  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/18/2017 11:30 pm : link
In comment 13398651 dpinzow said:
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And when Alford figures that out and doesn't start the middle Ball brother, the dad will ask for him to be fired.


It's crazy... I thought that same exact thing last week.
Back to Gregg Marshall for a second  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 11:32 pm : link
he would be a much better hire for IU than Alford (just a better coach to begin with)
People are letting this year's success cloud the fact  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/18/2017 11:33 pm : link
Alford's seat was hot as heck before the season.
And as we ruminate about Alford, IU, UCLA, and the Ball family  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 11:39 pm : link
this Iowa State-Purdue game has become a humdinger
What a battle  
B in ALB : 3/18/2017 11:40 pm : link
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Gotta grab that rebound.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/18/2017 11:52 pm : link
That sucks for ISU.
Very good day for the B1G  
dpinzow : 3/18/2017 11:53 pm : link
Wisconsin upsets Nova
Purdue wins
Northwestern gives Gonzaga a very tough fight
Agree  
MetsAreBack : 3/19/2017 12:01 am : link
But Michigan and Michigan st - one of them needs to produce tomorrow for anyone to take notice or remember
Jay wrights postgame  
MetsAreBack : 3/19/2017 12:11 am : link
Very measured


A lot of guys graduating. Sounded like a guy open to a discussion
Virginia's  
MookGiants : 3/19/2017 4:40 am : link
performance today was pretty much the least shocking thing ever.

You knew the dreadful offensive performance was coming. Just a matter of when.

Virginia isn't going to do better than Bennett, but I also think they have hit their ceiling under him. Maybe this is their ceiling as a program, not just under him. Sweet 16's, 2nd round, the once in every great while Elite Eight.

I don't believe without superior athletes that you can win 4 let alone 6 games in a row in the NCAA tournament playing the style he wants to play. The pace is just way too slow.
the middle ball brother  
MookGiants : 3/19/2017 4:41 am : link
is not a big prospect, and the younger one isn't as good as Lonzo either.

They should have no impact on whether or not Alford leaves UCLA.
Yeah, tough loss  
Cruzin : 3/19/2017 9:10 am : link
Was at an all day baseball clinic in the rain and the cold. Just watched it this morning. Beachem never found his shot, killed us. Farrell dribbling into corners and picking up his dribble, killed us. Carter hitting 3's from inside the tourney emblem painted at half court. Killed us.

Killed my bracket but I'm sure B took Syracse to win it all this year, oh wait.

UVA shows it's true colors, that was uplifting. I mean Florida just crushed them. Beat them worse than ND did in the ACC Tourney.

I'm here for any WV fans who would like to enjoy their win. They played a great game, hitting on high notes in all facets of their game.

Congrats
RE: Yeah, tough loss  
BigBlueShock : 3/19/2017 9:33 am : link
In comment 13398779 Cruzin said:
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Was at an all day baseball clinic in the rain and the cold. Just watched it this morning. Beachem never found his shot, killed us. Farrell dribbling into corners and picking up his dribble, killed us. Carter hitting 3's from inside the tourney emblem painted at half court. Killed us.

Killed my bracket but I'm sure B took Syracse to win it all this year, oh wait.

UVA shows it's true colors, that was uplifting. I mean Florida just crushed them. Beat them worse than ND did in the ACC Tourney.

I'm here for any WV fans who would like to enjoy their win. They played a great game, hitting on high notes in all facets of their game.

Congrats

You run your mouth over and over and over again, and then instead of taking the high road and just shutting the hell up when your team gets their asses kicked, you continue to try to ridicule other fans and teams. At least you waited a day to start up again, but I'm guessing it has less to do with baseball clinics and more to do with finally waking up in that pool of vomit and feces after your team got curb stomped. Thankfully you'll likely be passed out again in another hour or so
RE: RE: Yeah, tough loss  
Cruzin : 3/19/2017 9:40 am : link
In comment 13398797 BigBlueShock said:
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Was at an all day baseball clinic in the rain and the cold. Just watched it this morning. Beachem never found his shot, killed us. Farrell dribbling into corners and picking up his dribble, killed us. Carter hitting 3's from inside the tourney emblem painted at half court. Killed us.

Killed my bracket but I'm sure B took Syracse to win it all this year, oh wait.

UVA shows it's true colors, that was uplifting. I mean Florida just crushed them. Beat them worse than ND did in the ACC Tourney.

I'm here for any WV fans who would like to enjoy their win. They played a great game, hitting on high notes in all facets of their game.

Congrats


You run your mouth over and over and over again, and then instead of taking the high road and just shutting the hell up when your team gets their asses kicked, you continue to try to ridicule other fans and teams. At least you waited a day to start up again, but I'm guessing it has less to do with baseball clinics and more to do with finally waking up in that pool of vomit and feces after your team got curb stomped. Thankfully you'll likely be passed out again in another hour or so


Let me guess, this high road you speak of, it's the one that you're taking?

RE: the middle ball brother  
dpinzow : 3/19/2017 11:12 am : link
In comment 13398722 MookGiants said:
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is not a big prospect, and the younger one isn't as good as Lonzo either.

They should have no impact on whether or not Alford leaves UCLA.


They're not the issue, the father is the issue. Lavar has Alford by the short hairs because Lonzo pretty much saved Alford's job (remember Alford's seat was really warm, to say the least, and he has not had a highly successful career as a HC going back to Iowa)

The father will play that card--you're losing because my boys aren't getting the ball most of the time
RE: RE: the middle ball brother  
Jon in NYC : 3/19/2017 11:31 am : link
In comment 13398876 dpinzow said:
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is not a big prospect, and the younger one isn't as good as Lonzo either.

They should have no impact on whether or not Alford leaves UCLA.



They're not the issue, the father is the issue. Lavar has Alford by the short hairs because Lonzo pretty much saved Alford's job (remember Alford's seat was really warm, to say the least, and he has not had a highly successful career as a HC going back to Iowa)

The father will play that card--you're losing because my boys aren't getting the ball most of the time


Who cares if he's taking a job at Indiana? Also since when does a dad have control over a coach?
Mike Hopkins is taking the Washington job  
B in ALB : 3/19/2017 11:37 am : link
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Wow, thought he was the head coach in waiting  
Kevin in CT : 3/19/2017 11:55 am : link
Boeheim needs to hang it up.
RE: Mike Hopkins is taking the Washington job  
BigBlueShock : 3/19/2017 11:59 am : link
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Wow. Wonder what happened there? He's waited all this time and now with JB leaving after next season, he bolts? Good for him I guess but where's that leave 'Cuse down the road?
Yeah this leads one to believe  
B in ALB : 3/19/2017 12:01 pm : link
That Boeheim doesn't want to retire and Hop was like, fuck it, I'm gone. He's from California and will recruit the west really well. Not looking great for the Cuse.
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