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NFT: NCAA tournament, Sunday games

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/19/2017 12:47 pm
I didn't see a thread for today's games.

Louisville up on Michigan right now late in the 1st half.

Later games:

Wichita vs. Kentucky at 2:40.
Michigan State vs. Kansas at 5:15.
UNC vs. Arkansas at 6:10 PM.
URI vs. Oregon at 7:10 PM.
USC vs. Baylor at 7:45 PM.
South Carolina vs. Duke at 8:40 PM.
Cincinnati vs. UCLA at 9:40 PM.

Outside of the Heels winning, I'd love to see URI advance. Also, I think Michigan State gives Kansas a game.
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You will get in the door  
MookGiants : 3/19/2017 11:28 pm : link
For sweet 16 at MSG for 100 bucks if you wait it out
RE: You will get in the door  
Jon in NYC : 3/19/2017 11:30 pm : link
In comment 13399475 MookGiants said:
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For sweet 16 at MSG for 100 bucks if you wait it out


That would be awesome.
obviously  
MookGiants : 3/19/2017 11:36 pm : link
Greenville is very close to Columbia, but its also only 2 more hours to Durham, and they can thank the idiots in NC with that bathroom bill for losing the tournament in NC this year.

Duke didn't have a point guard and couldn't defend for shit. Their defense in the 2nd half was comically bad. They played terrific in the ACC tournament, but they lost 3 of 4 prior to that, so while everyone thinks they were read hot coming in, they were only 5-3 in their last 8.

It was a flawed team all year. Defensively they just were not good enough. South Carolina is a bad offensive squad and they took it to them in the 2nd half
you're not going to hear a peep  
MookGiants : 3/19/2017 11:47 pm : link
about it from the media, but this Duke team was predicted by basically everyone to win the title prior to the year, some even talking about them going undefeated. 10 McDonalds All Americans and somehow they had zero bench. Semi Ojeleye can't get off the bench at Duke but is a stud at SMU. Coach K did a bad job with this squad this year. Outside of 4 days in Brooklyn, they underachieved all year, yet the narrative from the media is how much he got out of this team. Yet they were pre-season number 1, finished 5th in the conference, and lost in the 2nd round of the tournament.

RE: obviously  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/19/2017 11:53 pm : link
In comment 13399480 MookGiants said:
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couldn't defend for shit. Their defense in the 2nd half was comically bad.

It was a flawed team all year. Defensively they just were not good enough. South Carolina is a bad offensive squad and they took it to them in the 2nd half


ITA. They simply couldn't stay in front of their man from about the 5 minute mark on. I watched a LOT of South Carolina games this season and outside of Thornwell, they're an atrocious offensive team.

LOL...Stolen from Twitter  
montanagiant : 3/19/2017 11:58 pm : link
"Duke fan angrily throws his Lakers hat into his Cowboys poster and lands in his Cubs Themed trash can
RE: RE: obviously  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/20/2017 12:00 am : link
In comment 13399485 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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couldn't defend for shit. Their defense in the 2nd half was comically bad.

It was a flawed team all year. Defensively they just were not good enough. South Carolina is a bad offensive squad and they took it to them in the 2nd half



ITA. They simply couldn't stay in front of their man from about the 5 minute mark on. I watched a LOT of South Carolina games this season and outside of Thornwell, they're an atrocious offensive team.


Yup, Pretty much been the deal all year - they couldn't guard anyone. Were also essentially playing 4 SG/SF types at all times without a true PG. Not one of K's better rosters or coaching jobs.
65  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 12:12 am : link
points for South Carolina in 2nd half.

I know probably 15 came on free throws at end, but that's as bad of a defensive performance in the 2nd half as you will ever see on any level in basketball
LOL  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 12:27 am : link
in K's press conference he talked about the youth and lack of depth being a problem.

Well, he was the one that sold his soul to the devil and turned to the OAD model like Calipari. No one forced him to do that. And he still had 2 of his 5 best players as upperclassmen.

And the depth part is just hilarious. That's his fault and only his fault. They have 10 mcdonalds all americans. It's his fault that he hasn't developed a bench, the players are there. Ojeleye is the perfect example, he had him glued to the bench
The only worse post game interview/presser today than K  
Stu11 : 3/20/2017 12:49 am : link
was Pitino. Relentlessly throwing his kids under the bus, giving Michigan little to no credit and doing the old "the better team lost" routine. Two scumbags can have fun watching the rest of the tournament from their living rooms.
Wichita States Coach's wife was escorted out of arena  
montanagiant : 3/20/2017 2:21 am : link
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A security guard asked the wife of Wichita State coach Gregg Marshall to leave the lower bowl of Bankers Life Fieldhouse after she started loudly cursing shortly after Sunday's 65-62 loss to Kentucky in the NCAA Tournament.

Lynn Marshall remained in the stands about 10 minutes after the final buzzer. She at first consoled fans and family members of the team's players. But then she started shouting loudly about the calls made during the game. Eventually, the people around coaxed her to leave and the police officer followed.

She later was taken back to the playing level on an elevator so she could attend her husband's news conference.

Team spokesman Bryan Holmgren said the team was unaware of the situation and could not comment.
The "best conference ever" got exactly one team....  
Crispino : 3/20/2017 7:39 am : link
into the Sweet 16. ACC better hope UNC wins this thing. Which they might.
K is worse than Pitino  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 3/20/2017 8:12 am : link
Pitino was talking more about a few specific instances that were the difference in the game. He directly referenced the game plan.

K just whines. His first comment was how physical South Carolina was aka we should gotten more calls. Then he went to injuries.
Yeah I didnt catch Pitino's postgame  
MetsAreBack : 3/20/2017 8:34 am : link
but he went into the game saying Michigan was the best second round opponent he had ever had to prepare for his in career.

Without analyzing his career it did seem a bit melodramatic - and maybe it was another shot at one of the worst committee performances I can recall in 15-20 years...

but bottom line it was a coach respectful and knowledgeable about the talent level of the other team, so not sure why after the game he would say things like 'better team lost'

Then again this is a coach that went off / after a fan who said 'you suck' to him at halftime, so maybe he's losing it a little.
Well..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/20/2017 9:22 am : link
at least now a bunch of people can sit at the kiddie table for the rest of the tourney:)

I know basketball like the back of my hand. While I was at Bucknell, with their esteemed academic tradition and their squeaky clean program, I sat at a cafeteria bench that once supported Jay Wright's ass, and I bet his DNA actually rubbed off on my jeans, so people rooting for those wannabe academics like ND and Duke can kiss the bottom of my Wright-stained Wranglers and get a clue. Mongrels like that Jarhead Greg who keep blabbing on about Virginia can put that in a balloon and shove it up his ass.

I don't want to hear from B because of some unwritten rule that if your team is in the NIT that you can't comment on the NCAA because, well that's just how I roll. I ate burgers made by the same lady with drooping tricep flab as Jay Wright, one of basketball's greatest minds, so lick my nutsack, motherfuckers.

I mean just look at Wright's complexion - so creamy white compared to Coach K and Mike Brey, who looked like they have a raging case of rosacea, with their faces lit up like they've been frostbitten in the winds of Lambeau as they huff and puff at the refs for not giving them every call. Sure, K can do his "gee whillikers" routine in a pre-game presser, and then spend the next 40 minutes as the Devil incarnate, rat-faced twin of Shanahan, while Bucknell and their string of academics tries hard to comprehend what all of the 4-letter words mean. Afterall, in Lewisberg, PA, if it isn't at least a 6-letter word, it is laughed at as being the tools of the ignorant.

But as I type out this, I'm reminded that only 16 teams remain and even Bucknell isn't one of them, so stepping on the same floors as Jay Wright shouldn't impress you. Acting as if Duke and ND are impeccable models of excellence that graduate 4-year starters at ridiculously high rates shouldn't impress you. Calling Greg a fat troll who likes a defensive team that is harder to watch than a Victorian period piece shouldn't impress you. I'm just a cockmonkey, but at least I'm on my first handle:)
Will Wade talking with LSU about their opening....  
Britt in VA : 3/20/2017 9:33 am : link
The life of a VCU fan every year... Frustrating.
I don't think UNC is playing all that great  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/20/2017 10:55 am : link
Kansas on the other hand looks strong
I heard Coach K just suspended  
B in ALB : 3/20/2017 11:12 am : link
Grayson Allen for the rest of the tournament.
RE: I don't think UNC is playing all that great  
MetsAreBack : 3/20/2017 11:34 am : link
In comment 13399715 gidiefor said:
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Kansas on the other hand looks strong



Agree, but survive and advance... UNC just played their worst (offensive) game in forever, and still won. I think we'll see a lot better against Butler on Friday night... but the Kentucky game can certainly go either way.

The right side of the bracket looks so much better than the left side now. I'm thinking Arizona plays Wisconsin in a national semifinal, while Kansas plays UNC or Kentucky in the other.

For all the upsets in this second round, the South still went chalk.
Wow, Duke had 10 McDonald's AA's on the roster?  
Jim in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 11:36 am : link
Tatum is a goner for sure. How about Jackson? I'm guessing Giles comes back but you never know. Allen is definitely coming back, he's destined to be an assistant coach at Duke, or a fabulous career in MMA/kickboxing. Kennard is probably coming back. How many more years of eligibility does Jefferson have?
RE: "The best conference ever" got exactly one team....  
Stan in LA : 3/20/2017 11:57 am : link
In comment 13399533 Crispino said:
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into the Sweet 16. ACC better hope UNC wins this thing.

ACC 7-8, Pac 12 8-1.

Do the math.
the tournament  
PaulBlakeTSU : 3/20/2017 12:04 pm : link
is chaotic and fluky, and that randomness has humbled the ACC this season. But it was the same chaotic nature that allowed the ACC to thump its chest last year.

The ACC will take its lumps for the poor showing and that's fine. But they'll be back.

At this point, here's hoping the second weekend has some great games.
RE: RE: I don't think UNC is playing all that great  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/20/2017 12:11 pm : link
In comment 13399770 MetsAreBack said:
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Kansas on the other hand looks strong




Agree, but survive and advance... UNC just played their worst (offensive) game in forever, and still won. I think we'll see a lot better against Butler on Friday night... but the Kentucky game can certainly go either way.

The right side of the bracket looks so much better than the left side now. I'm thinking Arizona plays Wisconsin in a national semifinal, while Kansas plays UNC or Kentucky in the other.

For all the upsets in this second round, the South still went chalk.


I haven't seen Arizona play yet this year -- but they've broken my heart repeatedly over the years
Didn't want to start a new thread for this  
Greg from LI : 3/20/2017 2:37 pm : link
But it seems that the mysterious and debilitating illness of UVA's Isaiah Wilkins, which was a major blow to us, might be related to his having the sickle cell trait. Right now, his future is uncertain. It may affect him long term.
RE: I heard Coach K just suspended  
montanagiant : 3/20/2017 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13399735 B in ALB said:
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Grayson Allen for the rest of the tournament.

LOL
UNC  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 3:22 pm : link
100% got a break on the Meeks blocked shot, he clearly blocked it so Arkansas should have had the ball out of bounds with 1 on the shot clock.

But watch this if you think this was a charge. He got raked in the face, chest, and arm before any charge or travel.

They got the benefit of the whistle on the out of bounds play, but this wasn't a charge and Hicks also should have had an and one on his dunk.

Officiating has not been good, but those screaming charge or walk here are wrong, imo

But the ref..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/20/2017 4:16 pm : link
called a block on that play, not a hack. It clearly wasn't a block.
RE: But the ref..  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 4:17 pm : link
In comment 13400418 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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called a block on that play, not a hack. It clearly wasn't a block.


He didn't call anything.

And take away  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 4:18 pm : link
the hack and it's a blocking foul imo. Secondary defender has to be set and if he's leaning in hacking away how is he set?
Oh..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/20/2017 4:21 pm : link
that's right. They let it go and Meeks got the put back, right?
Yeah that was a shocking no call  
Giants in 07 : 3/20/2017 4:22 pm : link
Nice camera work there. Clearly a reach and then a block, but something has to be called there.

RE: Oh..  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 4:27 pm : link
In comment 13400430 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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that's right. They let it go and Meeks got the put back, right?


correct
I thought Meeks fouled  
B in ALB : 3/20/2017 4:31 pm : link
the shooter on the three. Since when can you rake the shooters hand, wrist and arm? And since they called it a no-tip, it's even more puzzling. Terrible, inconsistent and scared officiating from these idiots.
I think thats inconclusive that he raked his face or arm  
MetsAreBack : 3/20/2017 4:40 pm : link

but i've said from the start that could have been called a blocking foul.

for whatever reason the refs let both teams play throughout the game - if the game had been called like Duke / So Carolina, which bizarrely was the game right after this in Greensville (almost like the second game refs felt they had to make up for how the first game was officiated) - both teams would have fouled out 3 players. I think UNC only had 3 fouls called on them the entire second half?

And yes they missed an obvious 'and one' on Hicks earlier that would have tied the game.

B - sorry but no one neutral concludes Arkansas was fouled on the later 3 point shot. Clearly when a player misses the bucket by 8 feet which is what happened on that airball though, you can assume UNC got some of the ball. They should have given Arkansas the ball with 1 tick left.

Bottom line - UNC played lousy and was lucky to advance. Roy's refusal to use timeouts when other teams go on runs is baffling. But man did Arkansas go into an offensive shell just standing around milking shot clock on every single position inside 3:30 to go in the game. They didnt play to win.
Mets  
B in ALB : 3/20/2017 5:43 pm : link
Watch the replay. Tons of contact on the shooters arm and hand. It was a foul. And came before the other questionable call, not after.
B  
MetsAreBack : 3/20/2017 6:36 pm : link
I've watched the replay 10 times. I dont see a foul.

I did see a foul on Berry which ripped off two of his fingernails though late in the first half (and oh by the way Arkansas went on a massive run from down 17 at the time while UNC's floor general was getting tended to by the team physician).

Obviously the 27-10 foul discrepancy i believe it was ... was shady. Carolina benefited. But Meeks didnt commit a foul on that one play and the refs generally sucked all afternoon.
Mets  
B in ALB : 3/20/2017 6:43 pm : link
How can you say there's no foul when there was clear contact on the shooter? It wasn't close.
we are talking about the shot that landed with 1 second left correct?  
MetsAreBack : 3/20/2017 7:35 pm : link

you see what you want to see... the rest of the world saw a pretty clean block.
Will Wade takes the LSU job  
Greg from LI : 3/20/2017 10:27 pm : link
Jeez...two years at VCU, good years but hardly great, and he gets a major conference gig? That seems hasty.

Jeff Capel, Anthony Grant, Shaka Smart....eventually someone will have to be successful season after leaving VCU, I guess.
Fuck Wade.  
Britt in VA : 3/20/2017 11:37 pm : link
He didn't even tell his players, the AD, or anybody... They found out on twitter just like the rest of us.

We're going to play LSU in Maui next season.

That said, we had a monster recruiting class coming in... I don't know how we're going to recover from losing two top 25 classes in 2 years, not to mention anybody that's transferred out.

Yeah, Capel, Grant, and Shaka... One thing I can say about them, they all left VCU better than they found it.

Wade? Not so much. And for LSU?!?! Adios mother fucker.
Capel should consider going back  
MetsAreBack : 3/21/2017 8:34 am : link
he's a good coach that fell into a bad situation / luck (although i dont recall the violation details) at Oklahoma and then there were unrealistic expectations for this year's Duke team, exacerbated by K using his media connections to make it seem like him coming back from back surgery saved this year's season.
I would love Capel but that ship has sailed.  
Britt in VA : 3/21/2017 8:44 am : link
I have a feeling Mike Rhoades from Rice will be announced as our new head coach by the end of the week, if not the end of the day.
All of the coaches that leave VCU have a clause in their contract  
Britt in VA : 3/21/2017 8:48 am : link
that they have to bring their new team to Richmond for a home and home series with VCU. Texas is coming next fall.

This is the first time where I'd actually rather have the payout than the home and home series. LSU will hurt our RPI. They suck.
RE: I would love Capel but that ship has sailed.  
Greg from LI : 3/21/2017 8:57 am : link
In comment 13401054 Britt in VA said:
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I have a feeling Mike Rhoades from Rice will be announced as our new head coach by the end of the week, if not the end of the day.


I think Rhoades is actually an upgrade for them. He turned Rice into a 20 game winner for the first time in 13 years, and only the third time since 1955.
RE: RE: I would love Capel but that ship has sailed.  
Britt in VA : 3/21/2017 9:04 am : link
In comment 13401068 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13401054 Britt in VA said:


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I have a feeling Mike Rhoades from Rice will be announced as our new head coach by the end of the week, if not the end of the day.



I think Rhoades is actually an upgrade for them. He turned Rice into a 20 game winner for the first time in 13 years, and only the third time since 1955.


When Shaka left, our AD asked him who he suggested. He suggested Wade and Rhoades, Wade if we wanted to be successful quickly and then gone, or Rhoades for longevity.

I wanted Rhoades last time.
And hopefully Rhoades will bring Joey Rodriguez with him.  
Britt in VA : 3/21/2017 9:44 am : link
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Mike Rhoades is the new VCU Basketball Coach.  
Britt in VA : 3/21/2017 1:20 pm : link
Get your shit out of his office, Will.
Rhoads is a good hire  
Greg from LI : 3/21/2017 1:23 pm : link
But next year is gonna be rough for the Rams unless you can pull some quality transfers.
RE: Rhoads is a good hire  
Britt in VA : 3/21/2017 1:27 pm : link
In comment 13401520 Greg from LI said:
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But next year is gonna be rough for the Rams unless you can pull some quality transfers.


Wade was able to do it after Shaka left, let's see what Rhoades has got.
They didn't lose five seniors after Shaka, though  
Greg from LI : 3/21/2017 1:55 pm : link
Anyway, I'll be rooting for them to pull it off, so long as your interests don't conflict with our interests.
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