I don't believe so... it seems as if he is holding out hope for a deal that would've been offered by now if it was going to... now he's wading around knowing the Giants offer is still there for the taking...
They may be at the point where they leak they are contemplating pulling the offer but instead, 'they want an answer'
Over the weekend, we heard that the Giants have a 50-50 chance of keeping the defensive tackle. The Giants exact offer to the 25-year-old is not known, but Ralph Vacchiano of SNY says theyre unlikely to offer him anything more than a one-year, $4MM deal because of their cap situation. That would be a crushing blow to Hankins who came into March looking for a deal worth more than $10MM per year. After Dontari Poe settled for a one-year deal with an $8MM base, a lucrative multi-year deal seems unlikely for Hankins, even though hes younger
pride is probably the last roadblock in accepting a deal. I'm sure he scoffed at their offer, "shopped around", and is slowly realizing his ridiculous demands will not be met
wait it out or return with your tail between your legs? I like Hankins, would be thrilled if he's back, but he really overrated his value and the market seems to agree.
hopefully it's a multi year deal with performance incentives, but a 1 year prove it deal would suffice.
love to have him back, but he's better off going somewhere else for one year to reestablish his value. He's a 1T, but is more likely to play 3T here because of Snacks.
The $$'s not there for him on the open market like he had hoped.
Don't have that information but its a long term deal.
Say it's a four-year deal, it would be comparable to what Nick Fairley got from the Saints (without knowing the guarantee or the bonus structures, of course).
really want him back and compare this to Griffen, Coefield and Joesph. That being said, Hankins is not the player they were. I'm glad (it seems) the Giants aren't bending for him. Don't get me wrong I want him back as well but I don't see it the same way I saw the other DTs they let walk.
Don't have that information but its a long term deal.
Say it's a four-year deal, it would be comparable to what Nick Fairley got from the Saints (without knowing the guarantee or the bonus structures, of course).
Thanks for the information Brandon. Great job. That is a very fair offer, especially considering that no one is offering him anywhere close to that amount.
I agree with keeping the D intact. We spent a lot of money creating a top D, the team will not be stronger by letting it break down. If our offer has really been out there for a few weeks, then I think the Giants have a right to get an answer. No employer wants to give an offer and then wait for weeks while the employee tries to beat it, either he wants to be here or not.
really want him back and compare this to Griffen, Coefield and Joesph. That being said, Hankins is not the player they were. I'm glad (it seems) the Giants aren't bending for him. Don't get me wrong I want him back as well but I don't see it the same way I saw the other DTs they let walk.
Hankins is every bit the player Cofield and Joseph were here. IF he isn't it's too close to discern any real difference. Will JO never had 7 sacks here in a season with NYG. Neither did Cofield.
All three are/were solid DTs. Not great but plus players. Will Jo peaked with Minny but he's still pretty close to what he was here.
but he just doesn't fit our needs.. At his current weight and athleticism.. he provides no pass rush.. However for other teams specifically in the NFC East they should be all over this guy.. He can help them neutralize the Cowgirls running game.. Calais Campbell is the type of of DT that we need.. Obviously we were never going to be able to afford him but we need a pressure up the middle while still providing above average run defense..
really want him back and compare this to Griffen, Coefield and Joesph. That being said, Hankins is not the player they were. I'm glad (it seems) the Giants aren't bending for him. Don't get me wrong I want him back as well but I don't see it the same way I saw the other DTs they let walk.
Hankins is every bit the player Cofield and Joseph were here. IF he isn't it's too close to discern any real difference. Will JO never had 7 sacks here in a season with NYG. Neither did Cofield.
All three are/were solid DTs. Not great but plus players. Will Jo peaked with Minny but he's still pretty close to what he was here.
I wasn't just speaking in terms of sacks, They all seemed to push the middle alittle more, or perhaps that it just seemed that way because of our DEs. I get what you are saying and perhaps I'm being too nostalgic or something. I was refering to Linval JO, I'm assuming you were as well since Will went to the Radiers.
1 of the top FAs -- #Giants DT Jonathan Hankins -- has tried for weeks to beat NYG's standing offer. Hasn't done it yet. They want an answer
I hope that isn't the case. He is not worth that.
Definitely agree that was the right approach.
The alternative plan is Thomas and a draft pick in all likelihood.
I don't believe so... it seems as if he is holding out hope for a deal that would've been offered by now if it was going to... now he's wading around knowing the Giants offer is still there for the taking...
They may be at the point where they leak they are contemplating pulling the offer but instead, 'they want an answer'
Not as big of an asshole move
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I'd never listen to anything he has to say
wait it out or return with your tail between your legs? I like Hankins, would be thrilled if he's back, but he really overrated his value and the market seems to agree.
hopefully it's a multi year deal with performance incentives, but a 1 year prove it deal would suffice.
I'd never listen to anything he has to say
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per year.
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Say it's a four-year deal, it would be comparable to what Nick Fairley got from the Saints (without knowing the guarantee or the bonus structures, of course).
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per year.
For how many years?
Don't have that information but its a long term deal.
Say it's a four-year deal, it would be comparable to what Nick Fairley got from the Saints (without knowing the guarantee or the bonus structures, of course).
Thanks for the information Brandon. Great job. That is a very fair offer, especially considering that no one is offering him anywhere close to that amount.
not sure where we stand post JPP
I just wonder whether there's a fallback plan in FA, whether it's Bromley and co. taking a bigger role, or they hope to draft a DT high.
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not sure where we stand post JPP
Thanks!! We'll see. Are we just waiting on Hankins now?
not sure where we stand post JPP
Seems about right. Thanks hitdog
Time to go all in with vets!
Hankins is getting poor advice, IMHO.
Hankins is every bit the player Cofield and Joseph were here. IF he isn't it's too close to discern any real difference. Will JO never had 7 sacks here in a season with NYG. Neither did Cofield.
All three are/were solid DTs. Not great but plus players. Will Jo peaked with Minny but he's still pretty close to what he was here.
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really want him back and compare this to Griffen, Coefield and Joesph. That being said, Hankins is not the player they were. I'm glad (it seems) the Giants aren't bending for him. Don't get me wrong I want him back as well but I don't see it the same way I saw the other DTs they let walk.
Hankins is every bit the player Cofield and Joseph were here. IF he isn't it's too close to discern any real difference. Will JO never had 7 sacks here in a season with NYG. Neither did Cofield.
All three are/were solid DTs. Not great but plus players. Will Jo peaked with Minny but he's still pretty close to what he was here.
I wasn't just speaking in terms of sacks, They all seemed to push the middle alittle more, or perhaps that it just seemed that way because of our DEs. I get what you are saying and perhaps I'm being too nostalgic or something. I was refering to Linval JO, I'm assuming you were as well since Will went to the Radiers.