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Francesa killing Beckham for no showing at Wrap Up Breakfast

MookGiants : 3/20/2017 1:20 pm
Says he cancelled on saturday night last minute after getting paid and agreeing to come.

Not a good look for him
What was the reason?  
robbieballs2003 : 3/20/2017 1:23 pm : link
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whats a  
ron mexico : 3/20/2017 1:23 pm : link
"wrap up breakfast"?
RE: whats a  
jeff57 : 3/20/2017 1:24 pm : link
In comment 13399989 ron mexico said:
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"wrap up breakfast"?


Scrambled eggs on a wrap?
Following in Strahan's footsteps  
DieHard : 3/20/2017 1:25 pm : link
When it comes to dissing Mike. Pretty good company.
If I'm an athlete in this city, why the hell would I agree to or want  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 1:26 pm : link
to do an event with this guy anyway? What's in it for the player?
RE: If I'm an athlete in this city, why the hell would I agree to or want  
Danny Kanell : 3/20/2017 1:27 pm : link
In comment 13400001 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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to do an event with this guy anyway? What's in it for the player?


Money
You're only as good as your word  
jcn56 : 3/20/2017 1:28 pm : link
I'll wait and see what kind of excuse he comes up with, there might be something reasonable - but otherwise, signing up to be there, being paid in advance, letting them promote the event with your name all over it and then no-showing at the last minute is pretty shitty.
RE: whats a  
Klaatu : 3/20/2017 1:29 pm : link
In comment 13399989 ron mexico said:
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"wrap up breakfast"?


Forget Mike, it's an event for the fans  
bceagle05 : 3/20/2017 1:29 pm : link
sponsored by Big Blue Travel. Buffet, Q+A with players, autograph session, and "MVP" awards to the season's best players - in this case, Collins and Beckham. They were even pictured on the flier for it. If he bailed without a legit reasons, that's a real slap in the face to the fans.
RE: RE: whats a  
Deej : 3/20/2017 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13399994 jeff57 said:
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"wrap up breakfast"?



Scrambled eggs on a wrap?


Condom awareness
It's an event that's been held forever, too.  
bceagle05 : 3/20/2017 1:30 pm : link
Mike's been talking about how long he's hosted it - going back to the Banks/LT days.
RE: You're only as good as your word  
BillKo : 3/20/2017 1:30 pm : link
In comment 13400004 jcn56 said:
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I'll wait and see what kind of excuse he comes up with, there might be something reasonable - but otherwise, signing up to be there, being paid in advance, letting them promote the event with your name all over it and then no-showing at the last minute is pretty shitty.


Totally agree. I hoped OBJ had kinda turned the corner after being received so well at the Pro Bowl.

But let's wait for a response.
RE: It's an event that's been held forever, too.  
Anakim : 3/20/2017 1:31 pm : link
In comment 13400012 bceagle05 said:
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Mike's been talking about how long he's hosted it - going back to the Banks/LT days.


Francesa would never miss a breakfast
Just trying to change the subject...  
njm : 3/20/2017 1:31 pm : link
from the fact that none of his Final Four picks made it to the second weekend.
I'm always surprised when people care about stuff that has literally  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/20/2017 1:32 pm : link
nothing to do with on-field performance. After all this time, I know I shouldn't be.
He's also  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 1:33 pm : link
no showed for signings he was paid in advance for before. I remember it happening with a signing here in my local area a couple years ago.

The crazy part is the only people who were supposed to get Beckham autograph and photo opportunity were the ones that paid 600 for the VIP package each. Those people have to feel royally screwed. Wonder if they refunded peoples money
RE: If I'm an athlete in this city, why the hell would I agree to or want  
Brown Recluse : 3/20/2017 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13400001 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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to do an event with this guy anyway? What's in it for the player?


Well if you've already accepted payment, you should probably hold up your end and show up. Otherwise it would most likely be a non issue.
RE: He's also  
BillKo : 3/20/2017 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13400019 MookGiants said:
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no showed for signings he was paid in advance for before. I remember it happening with a signing here in my local area a couple years ago.

The crazy part is the only people who were supposed to get Beckham autograph and photo opportunity were the ones that paid 600 for the VIP package each. Those people have to feel royally screwed. Wonder if they refunded peoples money


Oh they'd have to..............otherwise get ready for lawyers.......
RE: I'm always surprised when people care about stuff that has literally  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 1:34 pm : link
In comment 13400018 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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nothing to do with on-field performance. After all this time, I know I shouldn't be.


You don't think people should care that he basically screwed people out of a lot of money? It's wrong. He should be better than that.
RE: I'm always surprised when people care about stuff that has literally  
BillKo : 3/20/2017 1:35 pm : link
In comment 13400018 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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nothing to do with on-field performance. After all this time, I know I shouldn't be.


I'm surprised you say this........it tells a lot about a person.

And there's no doubt that OBJ has already displayed some traits that correspond to exactly this. In other words, it's all about me...........

PS - I'm a big fan.
RE: RE: It's an event that's been held forever, too.  
jeff57 : 3/20/2017 1:36 pm : link
In comment 13400014 Anakim said:
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Mike's been talking about how long he's hosted it - going back to the Banks/LT days.



Francesa would never miss a breakfast



I'm sure he has a legit reason just check out his Instagram...  
Bchurch : 3/20/2017 1:38 pm : link
Chilling with Drake, Nicki Minaj and Johnny Football getting high on life!
OBJ Insta - ( New Window )
He should kill him for that.  
Frankie in Flushing : 3/20/2017 1:38 pm : link
OBJ is a diva the Giants should trade.
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spike : 3/20/2017 1:40 pm : link
RE: You're only as good as your word  
ColHowPepper : 3/20/2017 1:42 pm : link
In comment 13400004 jcn56 said:
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I'll wait and see what kind of excuse he comes up with, there might be something reasonable - but otherwise, signing up to be there, being paid in advance, letting them promote the event with your name all over it and then no-showing at the last minute is pretty shitty.
100%. The comments on this lambasting Francessa are off the mark. This is of a kind of classless (and so far explanation less) act that got Geno's jaw broken.
RE: If I'm an athlete in this city, why the hell would I agree to or want  
Frankie in Flushing : 3/20/2017 1:42 pm : link
In comment 13400001 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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to do an event with this guy anyway? What's in it for the player?


It's for the fans and Big Blue Travel charges waaaay too much for this.
He still ripping Beckham?  
The_Boss : 3/20/2017 1:42 pm : link
Thinking of tuning in
RE: He should kill him for that.  
Bchurch : 3/20/2017 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13400034 Frankie in Flushing said:
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OBJ is a diva the Giants should trade.


Makes sense. Trade your best player for being an eccentric.
Weak on Beckham's part.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 1:44 pm : link
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This has become the norm  
Sy'56 : 3/20/2017 1:44 pm : link
With Beckham. He's known for cancelling last minute on these things.

Kid is special talent but there is now a list of things that just aren't right here. Hopefully it won't spiral out of control.
RE: RE: I'm always surprised when people care about stuff that has literally  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/20/2017 1:47 pm : link
In comment 13400028 BillKo said:
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nothing to do with on-field performance. After all this time, I know I shouldn't be.



I'm surprised you say this........it tells a lot about a person.

And there's no doubt that OBJ has already displayed some traits that correspond to exactly this. In other words, it's all about me...........

PS - I'm a big fan.


These people jump, catch, tackle, and run fast for a living. And to be perfectly honest, if they couldn't do those things, none of us would know who they are or care about their personalities or how they conduct themselves otherwise (in a non-criminal sense). I love sports and I love football, but I try to keep some perspective about it and the people who play these games. I don't need people who do these relatively unimportant things to be nice people.
RE: This has become the norm  
Bchurch : 3/20/2017 1:47 pm : link
In comment 13400049 Sy'56 said:
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With Beckham. He's known for cancelling last minute on these things.

Kid is special talent but there is now a list of things that just aren't right here. Hopefully it won't spiral out of control.


Hope B Marsh can educate OBJ on how to better conduct himself on and OFF the field. I wouldn't be surprised if OBJ had a similar condition as Marshall (borderline personality disorder).
LT  
spike : 3/20/2017 1:48 pm : link
was probably never a reliable human being, except on Sundays
RE: This has become the norm  
Reb8thVA : 3/20/2017 1:49 pm : link
In comment 13400049 Sy'56 said:
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With Beckham. He's known for cancelling last minute on these things.

Kid is special talent but there is now a list of things that just aren't right here. Hopefully it won't spiral out of control.


It seems that maybe the glory level is expanding at such a rapid rate and the maturity level is struggling to keep up.
Normally I'm not the guy to get worked up over the off  
jcn56 : 3/20/2017 1:49 pm : link
the field stuff, but that's because those are issues that are mostly blown out of proportion by the media (the net nonsense, ripping his helmet off, etc.).

This is a question of integrity - and it's a slippery slope. Today he's leaving people high and dry on promised appearances, tomorrow he's failing to show up for a practice or rehab.

This isn't some kid who grew up poor and lacked guidance, I'm surprised the people close to him haven't pulled him aside and told him to grow the fuck up already. Or maybe that has happened and he's just a little too full of himself at the moment to listen.
RE: LT  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/20/2017 1:50 pm : link
In comment 13400059 spike said:
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was probably never a reliable human being, except on Sundays


And people STILL cheer for him when he runs through that tunnel despite numerous serious reasons not to.
He's just a kid  
Go Terps : 3/20/2017 1:52 pm : link
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RE: He's just a kid  
arcarsenal : 3/20/2017 1:54 pm : link
In comment 13400066 Go Terps said:
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For someone who claims to not care about anything Beckham does with his personal life, you sure seem to care a lot about what Beckham does with his personal life....
That's not a good look for Beckham  
Matt in SGS : 3/20/2017 1:54 pm : link
unless there was a valid reason he wasn't there. The Giants did a thing last year in the practice bubble back in May or June for the Kids Sports Awards with Nickelodeon. They had a bunch of current and former players there as the kids did a few drills and threw a ball at a target. They had Jennings and Wing were there, and also had Snee, Suebert and Stephen Baker. Odell came late but was there and mingled with the kids and took pictures with them (he was wearing a Rugrats backpack). He took a picture with my 2 sons and seemed to be pretty comfortable and was really engaging with the kids and parents. That would suck if he left fans and the Big Blue Travel organization in a lurch.
I think suggesting he has a serious mental condition is probably the  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 1:55 pm : link
point where the conversation has jumped the shark.
Check it out...  
Bchurch : 3/20/2017 1:57 pm : link
These clips should sum up our two receivers:

Marshall:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3LcUOhXIA/?taken-by=bmarshall&hl=en

Beckham:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRyssvYjidC/?taken-by=obj&hl=en
Beckham should've been there  
EddieNYG : 3/20/2017 1:57 pm : link
Period. Hopefully he has a good reason not to be there and it wasn't because he was partying some where with celebrities.
RE: He should kill him for that.  
Kulish29 : 3/20/2017 1:58 pm : link
In comment 13400034 Frankie in Flushing said:
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OBJ is a diva the Giants should trade.


Wow. There's never a lack of stupid on BBI.
yeah I'll just wait to see what happened  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 1:58 pm : link
but it sure if fun reading these threads before knowing the details....
RE: Check it out...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 1:59 pm : link
In comment 13400072 Bchurch said:
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These clips should sum up our two receivers:

Marshall:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3LcUOhXIA/?taken-by=bmarshall&hl=en

Beckham:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRyssvYjidC/?taken-by=obj&hl=en


Now look into who Brandon Marshall was at the same age.
RE: RE: He's just a kid  
Go Terps : 3/20/2017 2:00 pm : link
In comment 13400068 arcarsenal said:
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For someone who claims to not care about anything Beckham does with his personal life, you sure seem to care a lot about what Beckham does with his personal life....


I don't care what he does with his personal low as long as it doesn't interfere with the on field.

jcn's point above about integrity is solid, though. If Beckham is this much of a jerk with something that doesn't matter, could he be with something that does?
RE: Check it out...  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 2:00 pm : link
In comment 13400072 Bchurch said:
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These clips should sum up our two receivers:

Marshall:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3LcUOhXIA/?taken-by=bmarshall&hl=en

Beckham:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRyssvYjidC/?taken-by=obj&hl=en


What are you trying to get at? One is constantly working at his craft and the other isn't based on randomly juxtaposed instagram videos?
RE: RE: He's just a kid  
Danny Kanell : 3/20/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13400068 arcarsenal said:
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For someone who claims to not care about anything Beckham does with his personal life, you sure seem to care a lot about what Beckham does with his personal life....


Arc, to be fair, this is a quasi team function that people paid alot of money for to have access to him for his autograph.

Why does it always seem to be him? Did any other players no show? I'm not sure the answer, just curious.
RE: Check it out...  
spike : 3/20/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13400072 Bchurch said:
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These clips should sum up our two receivers:

Marshall:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3LcUOhXIA/?taken-by=bmarshall&hl=en

Beckham:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRyssvYjidC/?taken-by=obj&hl=en



Gen X er vs millenial.
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David in LA : 3/20/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13400079 Go Terps said:
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For someone who claims to not care about anything Beckham does with his personal life, you sure seem to care a lot about what Beckham does with his personal life....



I don't care what he does with his personal low as long as it doesn't interfere with the on field.

jcn's point above about integrity is solid, though. If Beckham is this much of a jerk with something that doesn't matter, could he be with something that does?


How about getting all the facts in before proceeding to kill the guy?
In LA getting some pussy  
Rflairr : 3/20/2017 2:02 pm : link
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If you don't see the issue  
jvm52106 : 3/20/2017 2:03 pm : link
with his behavior here then you never will see anything wrong with what he does. Bailing on something you agreed to and (supposedly) were paid to says a lot about him. I keep thinking of that dumbass boat trip before the Packer game. Not that the trip happened but how he played following it. He was a huge reason the Giants lost that day and played perhaps one of his worst games period. Are the two things related?? Maybe not but hard to ignore it when the result was so damn poor.

His judgment is flawed. His need to be the center of attention, even at the detriment of his team is a concern.
LOL  
Chris684 : 3/20/2017 2:03 pm : link
At all the Beckham groupies here to tell us everything is ok with this guy.

RE: RE: Check it out...  
Bchurch : 3/20/2017 2:04 pm : link
In comment 13400083 David in LA said:
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These clips should sum up our two receivers:

Marshall:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3LcUOhXIA/?taken-by=bmarshall&hl=en

Beckham:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRyssvYjidC/?taken-by=obj&hl=en



What are you trying to get at? One is constantly working at his craft and the other isn't based on randomly juxtaposed instagram videos?


I'm getting at exactly what I said. This should sum up our two receivers. I didn't say it was negative or bad. Two different guys with two different personalities.
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arcarsenal : 3/20/2017 2:05 pm : link
In comment 13400086 Danny Kanell said:
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For someone who claims to not care about anything Beckham does with his personal life, you sure seem to care a lot about what Beckham does with his personal life....



Arc, to be fair, this is a quasi team function that people paid alot of money for to have access to him for his autograph.

Why does it always seem to be him? Did any other players no show? I'm not sure the answer, just curious.


I honestly don't give a shit what he does anywhere besides on the football field as long as its not criminal or anything that puts his being on the field in jeopardy.

Fans get sucked into this TMZ-esque obsession with everything athletes do in their spare time.

If he blew this off without having a good reason, shame on him.

It's still near the very bottom of things I care about when it comes to football players.

I don't need Odell Beckham Jr. to be my role model or win man of the year awards. If he keeps doing what he does on the field, that's good enough for me.
RE: LOL  
Frankie in Flushing : 3/20/2017 2:05 pm : link
In comment 13400092 Chris684 said:
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At all the Beckham groupies here to tell us everything is ok with this guy.


Exactly. This guy is Jeremy Shockey all over again.
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Danny Kanell : 3/20/2017 2:05 pm : link
This is from Eric's thread about the breakfast. After reading this, you guys don't have an issue with him no-showing this event?

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Join us for Big Blue Travel's GIANTS wrap-up breakfast - an institution since 1996.

This year we honor offensive MVP Odell Beckham Jr. and defensive MVP Landon Collins, along with many other teammates.

The event will be held on Sunday, March 19 at the Hilton Meadowlands Hotel across the street from MetLife Stadium.

Your morning includes a buffet breakfast, video presentation of the 2016 season, a question and answer session with players hosted by Mike Francesa, and complimentary autographs.

(Note: Odell Beckham Jr. will not be participating in the autograph signing session with the rest of the players. To receive his autograph and picture, you much purchase the VIP package).
So we've got "Beckham Groupies" on one side  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 2:09 pm : link
and people who take mike francesa at his word sight unseen to be able to further the "Beckham is a bad guy" narrative on the other side.

And somewhere in between, suggestions of multiple personality disorder and showcasing a video of him listening to rap music as illustration of...something.
RE: RE: Check it out...  
Bchurch : 3/20/2017 2:09 pm : link
In comment 13400077 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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These clips should sum up our two receivers:

Marshall:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3LcUOhXIA/?taken-by=bmarshall&hl=en

Beckham:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRyssvYjidC/?taken-by=obj&hl=en



Now look into who Brandon Marshall was at the same age.


Marshall was probably worse. Marshall is a great example of an NFL'er who matured and I'm excited that he and OBJ are teamed up now. Beckham brings a lot of the negativity on himself and at the same time I think these things are easy to avoid. He will clean it up, I just hope he get's there sooner than later so that we can limit the distractions.
Odell is a great WR...  
Chris684 : 3/20/2017 2:09 pm : link
But he has done plenty to hurt this team ON the field in the last 2 years. Plenty.

Let's start with a full 1 game suspension and work down from there to the various 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties he's taken.
RE: I'm always surprised when people care about stuff that has literally  
gmenatlarge : 3/20/2017 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13400018 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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nothing to do with on-field performance. After all this time, I know I shouldn't be.



it shows his true character, like maybe he won't show up on the field sometimes also like in Green bay!!!
Um, correct me if I'm wrong (hard to tell from the angle)  
Overseer : 3/20/2017 2:11 pm : link
but in that instagram video posted at 1:57, is that car in motion while he's jamming out to Murda Beatz with his eyes no where near the road?

If so, that's just more me me me. What other drivers? What a fucking clown.
You people don't think that Francesa  
Chris684 : 3/20/2017 2:11 pm : link
doesn't know what he's talking about?

He hosted the event. He probably witnessed the red-faced reaction of whoever is in charge of this function as Beckham no-showed.
it's not a good sign  
djm : 3/20/2017 2:11 pm : link
that Beckham pulls this kind of shit. I used to defend Shockey but after years of watching pro sports I have learned that the better the player is off the field the better he usually is on it. Not that BEckham is a reckless maniac off the field or anything but these kind of things do bother me a little bit. These signs indicate a character flaw. Character flaws will impact someone more and more as they age. Hopefully Beckham matures over the next few years.

Bekcham is fine.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 2:12 pm : link
I defended him all throughout the Josh Norman stuff and will continue to. But screwing fans out of their money at the last minute is kind of shitty. Now, if he has a real excuse, then that's fine. But if he doesn't; that's kind of shitty. Won't change my opinion of him, but screwing people out of their money without a valid excuse (which he may have) is shitty.
RE: You people don't think that Francesa  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13400111 Chris684 said:
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doesn't know what he's talking about?

He hosted the event. He probably witnessed the red-faced reaction of whoever is in charge of this function as Beckham no-showed.


you realize francesa hates beckham because beckham wont go on his show?
RE: Odell is a great WR...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13400107 Chris684 said:
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But he has done plenty to hurt this team ON the field in the last 2 years. Plenty.

Let's start with a full 1 game suspension and work down from there to the various 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties he's taken.


The "but" doesn't outweigh the great.

We had guys on this team in recent years lose multiple games to drug and PED suspensions.
He might be in the backseat  
Overseer : 3/20/2017 2:13 pm : link
again, hard to tell.
RE: Um, correct me if I'm wrong (hard to tell from the angle)  
Bchurch : 3/20/2017 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13400110 Overseer said:
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but in that instagram video posted at 1:57, is that car in motion while he's jamming out to Murda Beatz with his eyes no where near the road?

If so, that's just more me me me. What other drivers? What a fucking clown.


Car was definitely moving. My hope was that he was overseas and the passenger in the car. I think he was in Europe touring with Drake last week.
Yea I'm sure  
Chris684 : 3/20/2017 2:14 pm : link
that's the reason why!

Francesa only has the team's franchise QB on every week and just about any other member of the Giants organization he wants on any time from the owner on down.

Yep, he's just mad he can't get Beckham on there.
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shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/20/2017 2:14 pm : link
In comment 13400108 gmenatlarge said:
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nothing to do with on-field performance. After all this time, I know I shouldn't be.




it shows his true character, like maybe he won't show up on the field sometimes also like in Green bay!!!


He's not a machine, so there's a high probability he will have games in which he doesn't perform well. The fact that we've seen Eli Manning shit his pants in big games with absolutely ZERO questions about his "true character" should make people hesitant to draw lines between off-field behavior and on the field production.
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EddieNYG : 3/20/2017 2:14 pm : link
In comment 13400116 nygiants16 said:
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doesn't know what he's talking about?

He hosted the event. He probably witnessed the red-faced reaction of whoever is in charge of this function as Beckham no-showed.



you realize francesa hates beckham because beckham wont go on his show?

It still doesn't excuse Beckham for not going to the event, unless he has a good reason for it.
i'm not going to panic or  
djm : 3/20/2017 2:15 pm : link
pray the Giants trade the guy. That's just ridiculous. But it would be nice to see the most talented NYG draft pick in decades to act like a pro on and off the field. You want to see Beckham get every ounce of talent out of his career.
RE: RE: RE: Check it out...  
spike : 3/20/2017 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13400106 Bchurch said:
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These clips should sum up our two receivers:

Marshall:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3LcUOhXIA/?taken-by=bmarshall&hl=en

Beckham:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRyssvYjidC/?taken-by=obj&hl=en



Now look into who Brandon Marshall was at the same age.



Marshall was probably worse. Marshall is a great example of an NFL'er who matured and I'm excited that he and OBJ are teamed up now. Beckham brings a lot of the negativity on himself and at the same time I think these things are easy to avoid. He will clean it up, I just hope he get's there sooner than later so that we can limit the distractions.


I hope Marshall provides some sort of mentorship for OBJ, something Cruz had failed to do. Marshall was/is a no 1 star WR for many years.
Bchurch  
Overseer : 3/20/2017 2:15 pm : link
That might explain it. Nevermind then.
RE: i'm not going to panic or  
EddieNYG : 3/20/2017 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13400131 djm said:
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pray the Giants trade the guy. That's just ridiculous. But it would be nice to see the most talented NYG draft pick in decades to act like a pro on and off the field. You want to see Beckham get every ounce of talent out of his career.

I'm not calling for the Giants to trade Beckham right now either, but not showing the events is added to a list of negative attention on Beckham and it could lead the Giants to trading him in the future.
RE: RE: Odell is a great WR...  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 2:17 pm : link
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But he has done plenty to hurt this team ON the field in the last 2 years. Plenty.

Let's start with a full 1 game suspension and work down from there to the various 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties he's taken.



The "but" doesn't outweigh the great.

We had guys on this team in recent years lose multiple games to drug and PED suspensions.


Pretty sure this is the guy who said OBJ cost us the game in Baltimore.
.  
Go Terps : 3/20/2017 2:17 pm : link
I just saw the Instagram video of Beckham. What a fucking douche.
God  
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2017 2:18 pm : link
you guys really need something else to latch on to
RE: RE: Um, correct me if I'm wrong (hard to tell from the angle)  
arcarsenal : 3/20/2017 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13400121 Bchurch said:
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In comment 13400110 Overseer said:


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but in that instagram video posted at 1:57, is that car in motion while he's jamming out to Murda Beatz with his eyes no where near the road?

If so, that's just more me me me. What other drivers? What a fucking clown.



Car was definitely moving. My hope was that he was overseas and the passenger in the car. I think he was in Europe touring with Drake last week.


He's not driving the car.
RE: RE: RE: Odell is a great WR...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13400139 David in LA said:
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In comment 13400117 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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In comment 13400107 Chris684 said:


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But he has done plenty to hurt this team ON the field in the last 2 years. Plenty.

Let's start with a full 1 game suspension and work down from there to the various 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties he's taken.



The "but" doesn't outweigh the great.

We had guys on this team in recent years lose multiple games to drug and PED suspensions.



Pretty sure this is the guy who said OBJ cost us the game in Baltimore.


Not me.
David  
Chris684 : 3/20/2017 2:19 pm : link
So now I said Beckham cost us the Baltimore game? The game we won?

Your ball washing of Beckham is getting in the way of facts now.
I don't give a shit  
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2017 2:19 pm : link
if Beckham didn't show up for that event. In fact, I'd actually like it even more if he told Mike he was coming and then didn't. Fuck Mike, he blasts Beckham every other week to listeners all across the country with no accountability so why the fuck should Beckham help him?
RE: .  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13400140 Go Terps said:
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I just saw the Instagram video of Beckham. What a fucking douche.


RE: I don't give a shit  
EddieNYG : 3/20/2017 2:21 pm : link
In comment 13400152 ryanmkeane said:
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if Beckham didn't show up for that event. In fact, I'd actually like it even more if he told Mike he was coming and then didn't. Fuck Mike, he blasts Beckham every other week to listeners all across the country with no accountability so why the fuck should Beckham help him?

It's not a Mike Francesa event. It's a Big Blue Travel Wrap Up Breakfast that they've had for years. Fans pay good money to go that event. Francesa is just the host.
You think  
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2017 2:21 pm : link
Beckham gives a shit what Mike Francesa thinks of him? You guys need a fucking beer after this thread. Jesus.
RE: I don't give a shit  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 2:21 pm : link
In comment 13400152 ryanmkeane said:
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if Beckham didn't show up for that event. In fact, I'd actually like it even more if he told Mike he was coming and then didn't. Fuck Mike, he blasts Beckham every other week to listeners all across the country with no accountability so why the fuck should Beckham help him?


He's not helping Mike. It's a Giants thing, not a Mike thing. He's just the host.
RE: RE: i'm not going to panic or  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/20/2017 2:21 pm : link
In comment 13400137 EddieNYG said:
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I'm not calling for the Giants to trade Beckham right now either, but not showing the events is added to a list of negative attention on Beckham and it could lead the Giants to trading him in the future.


I think some of you guys are in La-La Land.

This is a team who kept a KICKER who had physically and mentally abused his wife on the team until it became publicly untenable for them to do so. They invite a man who was charged with sex with an underage prostitute back to team functions. If you think this stuff is going to make them trade one of the most talented/productive players in sports, you're crazy.
RE: David  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 2:21 pm : link
In comment 13400149 Chris684 said:
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So now I said Beckham cost us the Baltimore game? The game we won?

Your ball washing of Beckham is getting in the way of facts now.


How is asking for more facts before jumping to conclusions ball washing? You certainly did kill Beckham for the penalty in Baltimore, and conveniently forgot to mention the play was essentially a walk off HR.
Alright  
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2017 2:22 pm : link
fine...after you guys are done crying about this can we get back to normal draft and FA threads please..
Crying?  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 2:23 pm : link
Not anyone here. Possibly the fans he screwed out of their money, though..
Dave  
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2017 2:24 pm : link
you should go back and read this thread. We have morons actually suggesting we trade Beckham.
did they invent checking your bloodpressure  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 2:24 pm : link
using a URL yet? If so half of you need to look into that.
RE: Alright  
EddieNYG : 3/20/2017 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13400165 ryanmkeane said:
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fine...after you guys are done crying about this can we get back to normal draft and FA threads please..

The only who is crying is you. We're just discussing this, but you seem to be the one who is all bent out of shape of any criticism of Beckham.
Eddie  
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2017 2:24 pm : link
seriously? Way to go.
Beckham misses breakfast  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 2:24 pm : link
trade him. AP beats his kid, sign him.

So weird.
By itself  
Sy'56 : 3/20/2017 2:25 pm : link
this isn't a big deal. Add this in to everything else he's been doing...there could be something brewing here that NYG won't want to deal with.

I hope I am wrong...I really do.
RE: Crying?  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 2:26 pm : link
In comment 13400168 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Not anyone here. Possibly the fans he screwed out of their money, though..


according to the flyer fans had to pay for a vip package and it sounds like they would get their aitograph in the mail..

sounds like the only thing he skipped the was the q and a with francesa..
RE: Eddie  
EddieNYG : 3/20/2017 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13400174 ryanmkeane said:
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seriously? Way to go.


Ryan,

My overall feeling of this is Beckham is wrong for not showing up to this event UNLESS he has a good reason for skipping it.

I mentioned that the this kind of thing along with boat trip to Miami/dropped passes in the playoff game and his sometimes immature antics on the field could eventually lead him to the Giants trading him.

I didn't say they will or should. I said they could.
RE: You think  
Overseer : 3/20/2017 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13400159 ryanmkeane said:
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Beckham gives a shit what Mike Francesa thinks of him?.

Definitely. He's got very thin skin. This has been demonstrated. A characteristic which is very commonly accompanied by an extreme sensitivity to criticism (hmm..where else are we seeing that presently...?)

Francesca (deservedly) excoriated OBJ after Carolina when he Brian Dawkins'd Norman.
RE: Beckham misses breakfast  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13400175 UConn4523 said:
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trade him. AP beats his kid, sign him.

So weird.


Though, I do get the sentiment here. People paid good money for the VIP package to see him. He deserves criticism if he just disregarded the event, all I'm saying is let's wait to see what the reason is.
RE: RE: Crying?  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13400178 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13400168 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Not anyone here. Possibly the fans he screwed out of their money, though..



according to the flyer fans had to pay for a vip package and it sounds like they would get their aitograph in the mail..

sounds like the only thing he skipped the was the q and a with francesa..


I hope that's true, but I don't know. They were expecting to see him there, I'm pretty sure..
Eddie  
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2017 2:29 pm : link
I understand you are upset. The Giants are not trading Beckham.
RE: If I'm an athlete in this city, why the hell would I agree to or want  
Victor in CT : 3/20/2017 2:30 pm : link
In comment 13400001 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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to do an event with this guy anyway? What's in it for the player?



he accepted the invite, he should have been there
RE: Eddie  
EddieNYG : 3/20/2017 2:30 pm : link
In comment 13400186 ryanmkeane said:
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I understand you are upset. The Giants are not trading Beckham.


I'm not upset. I'm simply giving my opinion.
unless he had some real problem or family issue if course, but if  
Victor in CT : 3/20/2017 2:31 pm : link
thats the case he should at least notify the organizers or have the Giants do it.
RE: RE: Beckham misses breakfast  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 2:32 pm : link
In comment 13400183 David in LA said:
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In comment 13400175 UConn4523 said:


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trade him. AP beats his kid, sign him.

So weird.



Though, I do get the sentiment here. People paid good money for the VIP package to see him. He deserves criticism if he just disregarded the event, all I'm saying is let's wait to see what the reason is.


I agree, but i'd still like to see what the reason was and whether they get their money back.

Still, whatever this guy does short of being a Eagle Scout results in Eric having to wear riot gear.
One hundred percent of the proceeds of the silent auction  
bceagle05 : 3/20/2017 2:33 pm : link
go to Odell and Landon's charities, too.
On one hand it's pretty crappy to skip something like that  
j_rud : 3/20/2017 2:36 pm : link
On the other hand, paying that much money to shake some dudes hand and get his autograph is...what's the word...weird and sad? Yeah, kinda weird and sorta sad.

There are no winners here. Just losers. Petulant athlete or creepy collector man-child, losers one and all.
RE: unless he had some real problem or family issue if course, but if  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 2:36 pm : link
In comment 13400192 Victor in CT said:
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thats the case he should at least notify the organizers or have the Giants do it.


they probably did, you really think francesa is going to tell the reason? he just wants to kill beckham every chance he can get
RE: unless he had some real problem or family issue if course, but if  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13400192 Victor in CT said:
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thats the case he should at least notify the organizers or have the Giants do it.


Agree. You can't be the least bit critical of anyone under Giants' contract here, though. It's weird...and creepy. And this coming from someone who defended Beckham all through out the on field stuff, including the Norman stuff (and I will continue to).
i am not going to believe anything that comes out of francesas mouth  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 2:43 pm : link
when it comes to beckham, this is the same guy that said beclham was probably faking when he got hurt against baltimore and came back in the game..

a caller said you have to give beckham credit for playing hurt, francesa responded saying he was not hurt
What is there to believe?  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 2:44 pm : link
He wasn't there.
RE: By itself  
Go Terps : 3/20/2017 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13400176 Sy'56 said:
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this isn't a big deal. Add this in to everything else he's been doing...there could be something brewing here that NYG won't want to deal with.

I hope I am wrong...I really do.


I hope you're right.

Subjectively I hope he has a huge year in 2017 and Reese has the good sense to make a Herschel Walker trade to set up the post-Eli era.
RE: i am not going to believe anything that comes out of francesas mouth  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13400213 nygiants16 said:
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when it comes to beckham, this is the same guy that said beclham was probably faking when he got hurt against baltimore and came back in the game..

a caller said you have to give beckham credit for playing hurt, francesa responded saying he was not hurt


He's done this numerous times, no showing for things he got paid to do already. This has nothing to do with Francesa, he deserves to be ripped for it.
RE: RE: unless he had some real problem or family issue if course, but if  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 2:45 pm : link
In comment 13400204 Dave in Hoboken said:
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thats the case he should at least notify the organizers or have the Giants do it.



Agree. You can't be the least bit critical of anyone under Giants' contract here, though. It's weird...and creepy. And this coming from someone who defended Beckham all through out the on field stuff, including the Norman stuff (and I will continue to).


Being critical without facts, especially when trying to judge someone's character, is a character flaw. This thread has given us "trade him" and "he needs mental help" all while not knowing anything other than what a disgruntled radio show host says.
Odell really is an immature punk  
Torrag : 3/20/2017 2:47 pm : link
If you don't want to do the event don't lend your name to it. Period. If you do then get your act together and be there. Barring a true emergency there is no excuse.
i am talking in general  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 2:50 pm : link
not about this specific event...
I am starting  
PaulN : 3/20/2017 2:50 pm : link
To think the Giants will be better off without this guy, he simply is all about himself and nothing else, and that is a cancer. Go get another wideout in this draft, another next season and fuck this choker.
RE: RE: unless he had some real problem or family issue if course, but if  
Victor in CT : 3/20/2017 2:51 pm : link
In comment 13400204 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 13400192 Victor in CT said:


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thats the case he should at least notify the organizers or have the Giants do it.



Agree. You can't be the least bit critical of anyone under Giants' contract here, though. It's weird...and creepy. And this coming from someone who defended Beckham all through out the on field stuff, including the Norman stuff (and I will continue to).


there is clearly a pattern here with him. I hope it improves and he grows up some, but I'm not holding my breath.
...  
Unemployable : 3/20/2017 2:52 pm : link
The Player needs to show some maturity or ram his head into another wall.
RE: I am starting  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13400239 PaulN said:
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To think the Giants will be better off without this guy, he simply is all about himself and nothing else, and that is a cancer. Go get another wideout in this draft, another next season and fuck this choker.


his teammates would disagree with you, all of whom say he is one of the hardest workers on the team...

how is he a choker? because he had a bad game in the playoffs?
on the brighter side, Perkins was a big hit here at the Dick's  
Victor in CT : 3/20/2017 2:54 pm : link
Sporting Goods grand opening. Good turn out, my son and the other employees said he was really nice to everyone, good personality and very engaging.
Despite all the "burn him" out there  
Sec 103 : 3/20/2017 2:55 pm : link
I'd like to see him healthy every Sunday during the fall and start of winter.
'Unemployable '...  
Torrag : 3/20/2017 2:55 pm : link
funny handle. Hope it's not true in RL. My tax dollars would be spent better elsewhere.
those that bought the package  
LedHeded : 3/20/2017 2:57 pm : link
were emailed Friday that Odell will not be attending & full refunds are offered
So it was not a last minute no show
RE: those that bought the package  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13400261 LedHeded said:
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were emailed Friday that Odell will not be attending & full refunds are offered
So it was not a last minute no show


not surprising
Isn't his Mom  
NNJ Tom : 3/20/2017 3:00 pm : link
his agent for non-football things? She needs to speak to her meal ticket.
RE: those that bought the package  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 3:02 pm : link
In comment 13400261 LedHeded said:
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were emailed Friday that Odell will not be attending & full refunds are offered
So it was not a last minute no show


LMAO, proof once again that this board's greatest national pastime is jumping to conclusions. I'm sure no one is backing down from their "trade him!" talks, because for some reason, THAT makes them look foolish.
RE: RE: those that bought the package  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 3:03 pm : link
In comment 13400270 David in LA said:
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In comment 13400261 LedHeded said:


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were emailed Friday that Odell will not be attending & full refunds are offered
So it was not a last minute no show



LMAO, proof once again that this board's greatest national pastime is jumping to conclusions. I'm sure no one is backing down from their "trade him!" talks, because for some reason, THAT makes them look foolish.


you think francesa mentioned the full refunds? i am going to guess no
Of course he wouldn't  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 3:04 pm : link
.
I never really understood the fascination  
B in ALB : 3/20/2017 3:06 pm : link
with needing to get a player's autograph or have some meaningless conversation.

I guess the kids are into it and that's fine to a point. But for adults to get all upset about this kind of stuff strikes me as weird. No offense, but I just don't get it. At all.

"I can't pretend a stranger is a long-awaited friend."
I'd like to hear what he has to say about it.  
Ira : 3/20/2017 3:08 pm : link
He shouldn't just brush things like this off a couple of days before the event unless he had a good reason.
RE: I never really understood the fascination  
spike : 3/20/2017 3:09 pm : link
In comment 13400276 B in ALB said:
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with needing to get a player's autograph or have some meaningless conversation.

I guess the kids are into it and that's fine to a point. But for adults to get all upset about this kind of stuff strikes me as weird. No offense, but I just don't get it. At all.

"I can't pretend a stranger is a long-awaited friend."


Last year, Chris Mullen was at a Mets game, sitting two rows in front of me. There were people (adults and kids) walking up to him and shook his hands and took selfies with him. Another guy who sat behind him took a cellphone picture of the back of his head.

I just don't understand people.
Here's the audio  
ghost718 : 3/20/2017 3:11 pm : link
Saturday night cancellation according to Francesa,Out of 700 Giants fans,30 cancelled.
Francesa - ( New Window )
this was also posted on Big Blue Travel Website  
LedHeded : 3/20/2017 3:12 pm : link
notifying that Odell will not be at the breakfast

Link - ( New Window )
Francessa has a long history of bashing athletes  
Keith : 3/20/2017 3:13 pm : link
that won't do his show.
RE: I never really understood the fascination  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 3:13 pm : link
In comment 13400276 B in ALB said:
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with needing to get a player's autograph or have some meaningless conversation.

I guess the kids are into it and that's fine to a point. But for adults to get all upset about this kind of stuff strikes me as weird. No offense, but I just don't get it. At all.

"I can't pretend a stranger is a long-awaited friend."


i have giants players come to my car wash all the time i got their autograph once and every time after that they are very nice talk to you a little bit...

cruz signed my wifes jersey...

kareem mckenzie sat and talked for a good half hour
RE: Here's the audio  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13400289 ghost718 said:
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Saturday night cancellation according to Francesa,Out of 700 Giants fans,30 cancelled. Francesa - ( New Window )


so he is lying since an email was sent out friday
RE: RE: I never really understood the fascination  
B in ALB : 3/20/2017 3:15 pm : link
In comment 13400294 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13400276 B in ALB said:


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with needing to get a player's autograph or have some meaningless conversation.

I guess the kids are into it and that's fine to a point. But for adults to get all upset about this kind of stuff strikes me as weird. No offense, but I just don't get it. At all.

"I can't pretend a stranger is a long-awaited friend."



i have giants players come to my car wash all the time i got their autograph once and every time after that they are very nice talk to you a little bit...

cruz signed my wifes jersey...

kareem mckenzie sat and talked for a good half hour


Yeah, great I guess. I just don't get it. They're just people who play a game yet I see grown men clamor for a second or two of their time or an illegible signature. It's weird.
RE: RE: RE: unless he had some real problem or family issue if course, but if  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13400225 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 13400192 Victor in CT said:


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thats the case he should at least notify the organizers or have the Giants do it.



Agree. You can't be the least bit critical of anyone under Giants' contract here, though. It's weird...and creepy. And this coming from someone who defended Beckham all through out the on field stuff, including the Norman stuff (and I will continue to).



Being critical without facts, especially when trying to judge someone's character, is a character flaw. This thread has given us "trade him" and "he needs mental help" all while not knowing anything other than what a disgruntled radio show host says.


I'm not talking about the 1 or 2 posts like that. I'm talking about the people who never say anything even resembling constructive criticism about Giants' employees. There are more of them and they are cringe-worthy, as well.
.  
arcarsenal : 3/20/2017 3:19 pm : link
So an e-mail was sent out Friday? Has anyone confirmed that?

And full refunds were issued?
Glad the Giants are at least offering *full* refunds.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 3:21 pm : link
They must be thrilled they have to do that, though.
RE: RE: RE: RE: unless he had some real problem or family issue if course, but if  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 3:23 pm : link
In comment 13400302 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 13400204 Dave in Hoboken said:


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thats the case he should at least notify the organizers or have the Giants do it.



Agree. You can't be the least bit critical of anyone under Giants' contract here, though. It's weird...and creepy. And this coming from someone who defended Beckham all through out the on field stuff, including the Norman stuff (and I will continue to).



Being critical without facts, especially when trying to judge someone's character, is a character flaw. This thread has given us "trade him" and "he needs mental help" all while not knowing anything other than what a disgruntled radio show host says.



I'm not talking about the 1 or 2 posts like that. I'm talking about the people who never say anything even resembling constructive criticism about Giants' employees. There are more of them and they are cringe-worthy, as well.


That's me sometimes and its because I find myself as a fan having only the information the media gives me and using that to flame away at a personnel decision or any other scenario seems like a waste of time.
I'm a fan, too.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 3:25 pm : link
I praise them when they deserve it, and don't when they don't deserve it. :shrug
So it wasn't a last second no show  
est1986 : 3/20/2017 3:25 pm : link
And half of BBI is ready to crucify the kid.
Who will be the first to bring  
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2017 3:27 pm : link
this up when Beckham has his first drop?
I bet you anything they had at least a idea that there was  
est1986 : 3/20/2017 3:29 pm : link
A good chance he wouldnt attend in the first place and they used his name anyway just to sell more tickets in case he did show. Its just so easy to blame it on Beckham.
RE: So it wasn't a last second no show  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 3:31 pm : link
In comment 13400317 est1986 said:
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And half of BBI is ready to crucify the kid.


36 hours before an event when it's been planned for a couple months absolutely is a last second no show.
I would boycott the Giants if they traded Odell  
est1986 : 3/20/2017 3:31 pm : link
For this shit or for anything hes done so far on or off the field. People who say otherwise are just dumb Giants fans.
I would boycott the Giants if they traded Odell  
est1986 : 3/20/2017 3:31 pm : link
For this shit or for anything hes done so far on or off the field. People who say otherwise are just dumb Giants fans.
Is this why Eric gave away  
B in ALB : 3/20/2017 3:33 pm : link
a free ticket to this thing?
Best to wait and see  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 3/20/2017 3:34 pm : link
How this thing unfolds before forming an opinion.
RE: Best to wait and see  
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2017 3:44 pm : link
In comment 13400341 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
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How this thing unfolds before forming an opinion.

We don't do that here
RE: RE: Check it out...  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/20/2017 3:50 pm : link
In comment 13400087 spike said:
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These clips should sum up our two receivers:

Marshall:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3LcUOhXIA/?taken-by=bmarshall&hl=en

Beckham:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRyssvYjidC/?taken-by=obj&hl=en




Gen X er vs millenial.

Brandon Marshall in NOT gen-X, not even close.
RE: I am starting  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/20/2017 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13400239 PaulN said:
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To think the Giants will be better off without this guy, he simply is all about himself and nothing else, and that is a cancer. Go get another wideout in this draft, another next season and fuck this choker.

I've thought BBI would be better without you for years, yet somehow we manage to tolerate the suffering. You should try doing the same.
I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
EricJ : 3/20/2017 3:58 pm : link
just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.
Wow, lets chill a bit  
Emil : 3/20/2017 4:07 pm : link
Not saying OBJ doesn't need to grow up, he clearly does. And I am not excusing any past behavior or the times when he has literally no showed. But this kind of stuff happens all the time. Happens every day in the corporate and political world. People's schedules change all the time and for a variety of reasons, many of them personal. If in fact OBJ and the Giants informed the organizers of the wrap up breakfast that OBJ would be a no show, that is plenty of lead time.

However, no one can deny this "looks" bad for OBJ. An extremely talented player with a large immature streak. As a fan its incredibly annoying because you see a player who has the world on a string, was an outstanding team mate and organizational rep at the pro-bowl, shakes hands of vets prior to the game, but still exhibits a selfishness mostly seen in teenagers. None of us are perfect and we should all remember that, but OBJ and the people around him need to remember no amount of receptions and TDs will make up for the damage to his image that he can cause off the field.

I think this latest hoopla will blow over. I think Francesa is blowing this out of proportion, especially since he is heavily involved in the event. However, there is no doubt this is a trend with Beckham, no matter whether his absence is justified or explainable. He is under a microscope, and I don't envy him. This is the double edged sword of stardom.
RE: RE: Best to wait and see  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 4:08 pm : link
In comment 13400363 ryanmkeane said:
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In comment 13400341 Tittle 9 20 64 said:


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How this thing unfolds before forming an opinion.


We don't do that here


Not a single person that jumped to conclusions has the grace to admit they did so.
RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
Emil : 3/20/2017 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13400384 EricJ said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.


basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not
RE: RE: RE: Best to wait and see  
Go Terps : 3/20/2017 4:23 pm : link
In comment 13400402 David in LA said:
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How this thing unfolds before forming an opinion.


We don't do that here



Not a single person that jumped to conclusions has the grace to admit they did so.


I reached the conclusion that Beckham is a jerk a long time ago.

Consistently excusing lousy behavior on and off the field isn't grace either.
No way the Giants are happy they have to refund  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 4:27 pm : link
a bunch of money for this unless there is a really, really good reason..
RE: No way the Giants are happy they have to refund  
drkenneth : 3/20/2017 4:30 pm : link
In comment 13400436 Dave in Hoboken said:
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a bunch of money for this unless there is a really, really good reason..


Wouldn't Big Blue Travel have to refund, since they run the event? Not sure the Giants org is involved here.
RE: RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
EricJ : 3/20/2017 4:38 pm : link
In comment 13400408 Emil said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.



basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not


The reality is that HE is the one doing this stuff. People are just reacting to it. If you know that the media has their eye on you then you are even more of an idiot for doing those things.

I guess I am just old school. If I had a shot at an NFL career, my focus would have been solely on improving my game knowing that my career will most likely be short and doing so can potentially extend it a bit. I would understand that once I am out of the game in my early to mid 30s I would have the rest of my life to do whatever the fuck I want.
Things that can be true at the same time:  
81_Great_Dane : 3/20/2017 4:38 pm : link
Mike Francesa is a thin-skinned, arrogant blowhard who likes to get on athletes over perceived personal affronts.

Odell Beckham Jr. is immature and has repeatedly behaved in ways that undermine his employer's PR effort and damage his own brand.
RE: Things that can be true at the same time:  
therealmf : 3/20/2017 4:43 pm : link
In comment 13400457 81_Great_Dane said:
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Mike Francesa is a thin-skinned, arrogant blowhard who likes to get on athletes over perceived personal affronts.

Odell Beckham Jr. is immature and has repeatedly behaved in ways that undermine his employer's PR effort and damage his own brand.


You forgot this one.

Fans can over react to a player cancelling an appointment without knowing the reason why.
RE: RE: RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 4:48 pm : link
In comment 13400455 EricJ said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.



basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not



The reality is that HE is the one doing this stuff. People are just reacting to it. If you know that the media has their eye on you then you are even more of an idiot for doing those things.

I guess I am just old school. If I had a shot at an NFL career, my focus would have been solely on improving my game knowing that my career will most likely be short and doing so can potentially extend it a bit. I would understand that once I am out of the game in my early to mid 30s I would have the rest of my life to do whatever the fuck I want.


by all accounts he is one of the hardest workers on the team...
Before he's gone....  
Mike From Brielle : 3/20/2017 4:53 pm : link
Francesa will take any and all shots at the Giants and Giant players he can.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
Mad Mike : 3/20/2017 4:53 pm : link
In comment 13400470 nygiants16 said:
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by all accounts he is one of the hardest workers on the team...

Stop making sense.
RE: Before he's gone....  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 4:58 pm : link
In comment 13400481 Mike From Brielle said:
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Francesa will take any and all shots at the Giants and Giant players he can.


only the players who wont go on his show
RE: RE: RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
j_rud : 3/20/2017 5:02 pm : link
In comment 13400455 EricJ said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.



basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not



The reality is that HE is the one doing this stuff. People are just reacting to it. If you know that the media has their eye on you then you are even more of an idiot for doing those things.

I guess I am just old school. If I had a shot at an NFL career, my focus would have been solely on improving my game knowing that my career will most likely be short and doing so can potentially extend it a bit. I would understand that once I am out of the game in my early to mid 30s I would have the rest of my life to do whatever the fuck I want.


Not a commentary on Beckham in any way, but it's awfully easy to say how you would have acted in your 20s when you're in your 40s or 50s. It's really disingenuous and kinda funny. "Well here's how I would act in this situation, and don't think for a second that my cumulative life experience, which this young man clearly doesn't have, is influencing my statement one bit.
RE: RE: RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 5:03 pm : link
In comment 13400455 EricJ said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.



basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not



The reality is that HE is the one doing this stuff. People are just reacting to it. If you know that the media has their eye on you then you are even more of an idiot for doing those things.

I guess I am just old school. If I had a shot at an NFL career, my focus would have been solely on improving my game knowing that my career will most likely be short and doing so can potentially extend it a bit. I would understand that once I am out of the game in my early to mid 30s I would have the rest of my life to do whatever the fuck I want.


I have my doubts that you, nor anyone else here would have any clue on how to handle that type of fame. There's famous, and then there's super-duper-star famous in a 24 hour news cycle, and social media.
RE: RE: RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 5:05 pm : link
In comment 13400455 EricJ said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.



basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not



The reality is that HE is the one doing this stuff. People are just reacting to it. If you know that the media has their eye on you then you are even more of an idiot for doing those things.

I guess I am just old school. If I had a shot at an NFL career, my focus would have been solely on improving my game knowing that my career will most likely be short and doing so can potentially extend it a bit. I would understand that once I am out of the game in my early to mid 30s I would have the rest of my life to do whatever the fuck I want.


I have my doubts that you, nor anyone else here would have any clue on how to handle that type of fame. There's famous, and then there's super-duper-star famous in a 24 hour news cycle, and social media.
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OBJ_AllDay : 3/20/2017 5:28 pm : link
zeke is laughing somewhere right now wondering how people ignore a domestic violence allegation and a video of him ripping a woman's clothes off and choose to get mad over beckham dancing or missing a signing... Smh. Bunch of dopes. The TV or radio personality tells u how to feel and you eat it up..
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j_rud : 3/20/2017 5:33 pm : link
In comment 13400538 OBJ_AllDay said:
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zeke is laughing somewhere right now wondering how people ignore a domestic violence allegation and a video of him ripping a woman's clothes off and choose to get mad over beckham dancing or missing a signing... Smh. Bunch of dopes. The TV or radio personality tells u how to feel and you eat it up..


Giants fans were all over Elliot for his actions. You're acting like Giants fans condoned it. But that doesn't fit your ridiculous narrative, so...sheeple! Sheeple EVERYWHERE!
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Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 5:34 pm : link
In comment 13400538 OBJ_AllDay said:
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zeke is laughing somewhere right now wondering how people ignore a domestic violence allegation and a video of him ripping a woman's clothes off and choose to get mad over beckham dancing or missing a signing... Smh. Bunch of dopes. The TV or radio personality tells u how to feel and you eat it up..


Listen, I agree that some Giants fans on here are huge hypocrites in relation to looking the other way with Giants players most of the time. But comparing what Elliot did to what Beckham did here isn't the same thing at all. What Beckham did, without a legitimate reason, is shitty. But Elliot's actions are worse..
RE: RE: So it wasn't a last second no show  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 5:44 pm : link
In comment 13400331 MookGiants said:
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And half of BBI is ready to crucify the kid.



36 hours before an event when it's been planned for a couple months absolutely is a last second no show.


Man, you'd be raking it in as a doctor with that terrible policy. Talk about a reach.
When the show is announced months in advance,  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 5:45 pm : link
calling out of it 1.5 days before is kind of last minute. Is this an actual debate?
Now mike is debating  
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2017 5:50 pm : link
with a caller on how long Landing collins stayed to sign autographs. Was it 1 hour or was it 2 hours?
Seems like the goalposts moved a bit  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 5:50 pm : link
First he was a punk for blowing off the event.

Now he didn't give them enough notice.



RE: Seems like the goalposts moved a bit  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 5:52 pm : link
In comment 13400573 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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First he was a punk for blowing off the event.

Now he didn't give them enough notice.




Of course it did. This place shows that it can suck ass very hard at times.
RE: Seems like the goalposts moved a bit  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 5:54 pm : link
In comment 13400573 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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First he was a punk for blowing off the event.

Now he didn't give them enough notice.




It can be both. They aren't mutually exclusive. If you don't want to go, you can let the Giants know a decent amount of time in advance.

But I forgot with BBI. Certain Giants employees never make a mistake.
RE: RE: RE: So it wasn't a last second no show  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 5:54 pm : link
In comment 13400567 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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And half of BBI is ready to crucify the kid.



36 hours before an event when it's been planned for a couple months absolutely is a last second no show.



Man, you'd be raking it in as a doctor with that terrible policy. Talk about a reach.


yeah, because a doctors appointment has hundreds of people relying on you to be there after they shelled out hundreds of dollars expecting you to be there. When you put out 600 dollars for a ticket and promise your kid he's going to get to meet Beckham and get an autograph, him cancelling 36 hours before absolutely is last minute.

Comparing it to cancelling a doctors appointment is mind numbing.
and Beckham  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 5:58 pm : link
doesn't get the benefit of the doubt as far as cancelling for a legitimate reason because he has done this multiple times. So he lost that benefit of the doubt. He's known to blow these things off. It's a bad look for him. I would never pay 5 bucks for an autograph, but I'm also not going to rip on people who will, especially people who are doing so so their kids get to meet the player.

These guys would have zero money playing football if it wasn't for the fans, guys like Beckham should respect that instead of blowing these things off regularly. He doesn't have to do any of this stuff, but if you commit to it and regularly back out, you look like an asshole.

RE: RE: RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 6:00 pm : link
In comment 13400455 EricJ said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.



basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not



The reality is that HE is the one doing this stuff. People are just reacting to it. If you know that the media has their eye on you then you are even more of an idiot for doing those things.



At what point do people have some responsibility here? Maybe the problem is the people are the ones that stick their noses into the lives of 20 year old kids and come away confused and angry that 20 somethings act like 20 somethings. If he puts his life on twitter, that's one thing. It's quite another to decide to care about it.

Maybe it's the people's fault for gobbling up twitter gossip and sports radio and reacting to things irrationally venomously. Sports fans make these guys way more important than they really are, then get shocked that a stranger doesn't meet their idealized impression of them.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So it wasn't a last second no show  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 6:01 pm : link
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And half of BBI is ready to crucify the kid.



36 hours before an event when it's been planned for a couple months absolutely is a last second no show.



Man, you'd be raking it in as a doctor with that terrible policy. Talk about a reach.



yeah, because a doctors appointment has hundreds of people relying on you to be there after they shelled out hundreds of dollars expecting you to be there. When you put out 600 dollars for a ticket and promise your kid he's going to get to meet Beckham and get an autograph, him cancelling 36 hours before absolutely is last minute.

Comparing it to cancelling a doctors appointment is mind numbing.


Yeah, you're really upset for the kids, huh?
Well KWALL paid $600 to see Lebron  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 6:05 pm : link
at least people got a refund and notice ahead of time. BFD if you get your money back.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So it wasn't a last second no show  
therealmf : 3/20/2017 6:07 pm : link
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And half of BBI is ready to crucify the kid.



36 hours before an event when it's been planned for a couple months absolutely is a last second no show.



Man, you'd be raking it in as a doctor with that terrible policy. Talk about a reach.



yeah, because a doctors appointment has hundreds of people relying on you to be there after they shelled out hundreds of dollars expecting you to be there. When you put out 600 dollars for a ticket and promise your kid he's going to get to meet Beckham and get an autograph, him cancelling 36 hours before absolutely is last minute.

Comparing it to cancelling a doctors appointment is mind numbing.


Doctors have policies about how far in advance an appointment must be cancelled not to be charged. Do you know what is customary notice for an event like this? I don't but do you?
In and of itself....It's not really a huge deal  
AnnapolisMike : 3/20/2017 6:11 pm : link
If you step back and look at the larger picture then things like this and all the other silly crap allows people to form an opinion of him and the type of person he is. Some won't care....others will.

He is not going anywhere with regards to the Giants. They will pick up his option next year. But if the sillyness continues...perhaps he is a guy you let go instead of paying him $50M+ guaranteed.

I've seen him stay late well past what should reasonably be expected  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 6:13 pm : link
to greet and sign for kids and families, for free, after training camp practices.

But yeah, let's sharpen up those axes and pretend it's all about the kids.

Hopefully more comes out to further blow apart this non story mouthpieced by the king of grudging against sports personalities who don't kiss his ring.
RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
Mr. Bungle : 3/20/2017 6:17 pm : link
In comment 13400384 EricJ said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball

Well, he doesn't do that, either. Like playoff games.
BigBlueBreakfast I was there  
dlgiants : 3/20/2017 6:51 pm : link
I was at the Breakfast on Sunday
Yea - Beckham cancelled but we got notified a couple of days before the event (Friday night? ) via email which was no big deal for me because it was noted from the start that Beckham would not being part of the autograph session at the end of the show and I was not going to pay the $599.00 for the VIP ticket so I could "meet and greet OBJ and Collins"
Francesa, showed up in the main area walking onto the stage waving at people like he was the Mayor of NY and when it was his time, talked for about 10 minutes off of some written notes about each player that showed up. I no longer have any use for Francesa - thank God for satellite radio

Beckham does have a lot of maturing to do - fast - but he may have a valid excuse for missing the breakfast

Beckham shows up before games and signs for everyone every home Sunday game He does have appreciation for the fan base

Landon Collins left right before they broke up for autographs - he walked - almost ran - straight out of the Hotel We were told he had to catch a flight at the airport

I have been going to these events for 10+ years (they did not have the breakfast for the past 4 years) and they have always been Hectic and the players announced are rarely the players who show up
ODB is who he is  
DieHard : 3/20/2017 6:57 pm : link
Those with a preconceived notion of how he should act, and are waiting/hoping/demanding for that to happen, are wasting their time. But if you take it as a certainty that his attitude will derail the team's chances, just remember: plenty of championship teams have had jerks playing major roles in their success.
Ever think something last minute came up in beckhams personal life  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 6:58 pm : link
ever happen to any of you?
Thanks for the insight DLGiants  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 7:01 pm : link
Seems like more people on this board are more outraged than the people that were in attendance.
It would be nice if we could just worry  
Motley Two : 3/20/2017 7:05 pm : link
about what the guy does ON the field and the last time I checked...oh right, he shit the bed in the play offs :(
He s becoming  
joeinpa : 3/20/2017 7:29 pm : link
A PIA for this franciise
OBJ has some off-field stuff  
Cenotaph : 3/20/2017 7:30 pm : link
And it's definitely a shitty move if he agreed to show up to an event like this (and got paid), but backed out last minute. But he might have a reasonable excuse, let's wait and see. If not, a shitty thing to do, but not on the same level as some of the off-field stuff you see. Beckham's issues at least seem to be more the 'young & dumb' type than the criminal or drug or violence types that really speak to a player's character...but not everyone is going to be Eli to the media.
RE: Ever think something last minute came up in beckhams personal life  
Emil : 3/20/2017 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13400640 UConn4523 said:
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ever happen to any of you?


Could very well be the case. And even though many of us fans think we have a right to know, we actually don't. We may never know exactly why he canceled and we are not entitled to. Only his employer has a right to know.

I'm in total agreement that OBJ has lost the benefit of the doubt, but lets put this in some perspective and realize we all lack context.
RE: BigBlueBreakfast I was there  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/20/2017 7:44 pm : link
In comment 13400631 dlgiants said:
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I was at the Breakfast on Sunday
Yea - Beckham cancelled but we got notified a couple of days before the event (Friday night? ) via email which was no big deal for me because it was noted from the start that Beckham would not being part of the autograph session at the end of the show and I was not going to pay the $599.00 for the VIP ticket so I could "meet and greet OBJ and Collins"
Francesa, showed up in the main area walking onto the stage waving at people like he was the Mayor of NY and when it was his time, talked for about 10 minutes off of some written notes about each player that showed up. I no longer have any use for Francesa - thank God for satellite radio

Beckham does have a lot of maturing to do - fast - but he may have a valid excuse for missing the breakfast

Beckham shows up before games and signs for everyone every home Sunday game He does have appreciation for the fan base

Landon Collins left right before they broke up for autographs - he walked - almost ran - straight out of the Hotel We were told he had to catch a flight at the airport

I have been going to these events for 10+ years (they did not have the breakfast for the past 4 years) and they have always been Hectic and the players announced are rarely the players who show up


Thanks for the information.
Unless, I'm missing something  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 7:46 pm : link
what is this "off field" stuff that he's done in the past, that everyone seems to be mentioning that cost him the benefit of the doubt? Has there been other events where he just said "fuck it, I'm not going."?
People really like to bitch about Beckham  
Deej : 3/20/2017 8:03 pm : link
Guy plays his ass off and cares about winning so much it drives him nuts. I wish we had 53 OBJs.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
EricJ : 3/20/2017 8:05 pm : link
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At what point do people have some responsibility here? Maybe the problem is the people are the ones that stick their noses into the lives of 20 year old kids and come away confused and angry that 20 somethings act like 20 somethings. If he puts his life on twitter, that's one thing. It's quite another to decide to care about it.

Maybe it's the people's fault for gobbling up twitter gossip and sports radio and reacting to things irrationally venomously. Sports fans make these guys way more important than they really are, then get shocked that a stranger doesn't meet their idealized impression of them.


I understand your point but this is the world we live in right now. He and his mother and agent have to understand that. This is no different than preparing for an opponent on the field. You understand what you are dealing with and you adjust do that you can defeat your opponent. The same with dealing with the public and the media. You just don't give them something to talk about. There are a thousand other guys in the NFL who apparently don't have this problem. So, it is not just because he is a young guy, etc. Why is it that other players are not getting caught up in this stuff? Did someone put a gun to his head to tweet a picture of himself and the rest of the NYG WRs on a yacht in FL with Beiber? No, he did that. Reporters were not following him.
RE: RE: Here's the audio  
Deej : 3/20/2017 8:06 pm : link
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Saturday night cancellation according to Francesa,Out of 700 Giants fans,30 cancelled. Francesa - ( New Window )



so he is lying since an email was sent out friday


The Giants need to protect their player here and demand an apology from WFAN and Francesa.
Giants fans can be a strange lot.  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 3/20/2017 8:14 pm : link
So quick to shit all over their own guys. To the point where it almost feels like they relish the opportunity to do so.

Don't appreciate Beckham

Don't appreciate JPP.

Don't appreciate Eli.

None of those three are players you easily replace.

...and Francesca is a loudmouthed fat jackass that loves to stir the pot.
RE: People really like to bitch about Beckham  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13400680 Deej said:
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Guy plays his ass off and cares about winning so much it drives him nuts. I wish we had 53 OBJs.


but he punched a hole in a wall, we mist trade him...

he dances to much we must trade him..

he listens to rap music we must trade him..

his hair is blonde we must trade him...

he is making money from endorsements and being on tv and going to clubs, we must trade him...

he was on a boat in miami, we must trade him...

teammates say he is the hardest worker on the team, bbi says it cant be true because he is a cancer who is lazy and only cares about himself and nobody else
RE: unless he had some real problem or family issue if course, but if  
batman11 : 3/20/2017 8:42 pm : link
In comment 13400192 Victor in CT said:
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thats the case he should at least notify the organizers or have the Giants do it.


Maybe he was with Derrick Rose. Another unprofessional idiot!
Don't sugar coat this for OBJ  
Matt M. : 3/20/2017 8:54 pm : link
This is not a good thing. Not only was he paid in advance, but he was part of a VIP package that fans had to pay extra for just to get his autograph. What do you tell all the people that paid extra for those tickets?
RE: Don't sugar coat this for OBJ  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 9:02 pm : link
In comment 13400730 Matt M. said:
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This is not a good thing. Not only was he paid in advance, but he was part of a VIP package that fans had to pay extra for just to get his autograph. What do you tell all the people that paid extra for those tickets?


Easy. We will give you a full refund.
He should live up to an obligation  
micky : 3/20/2017 9:55 pm : link
Unless something legit (like an emergency, family issue, etc) then no excuse. He had plenty of time to give cancellation notice nor signed up to be on hand.

Seems like this isn't a first for him in doing something like this. Bad image
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 10:04 pm : link
In comment 13400683 EricJ said:
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At what point do people have some responsibility here? Maybe the problem is the people are the ones that stick their noses into the lives of 20 year old kids and come away confused and angry that 20 somethings act like 20 somethings. If he puts his life on twitter, that's one thing. It's quite another to decide to care about it.

Maybe it's the people's fault for gobbling up twitter gossip and sports radio and reacting to things irrationally venomously. Sports fans make these guys way more important than they really are, then get shocked that a stranger doesn't meet their idealized impression of them.



I understand your point but this is the world we live in right now. He and his mother and agent have to understand that. This is no different than preparing for an opponent on the field. You understand what you are dealing with and you adjust do that you can defeat your opponent. The same with dealing with the public and the media. You just don't give them something to talk about. There are a thousand other guys in the NFL who apparently don't have this problem. So, it is not just because he is a young guy, etc. Why is it that other players are not getting caught up in this stuff? Did someone put a gun to his head to tweet a picture of himself and the rest of the NYG WRs on a yacht in FL with Beiber? No, he did that. Reporters were not following him.
other players do things we'd find objectionable, but we don't care what less famous players do. It's only the ones we put on a pedestal that we get upset about. It's not like anyone puts a gun to our heads and forces us to moralize and shake fists. "Don't do anything for us to talk about, because we can't help ourselves and we'll lose our minds and spit venom and judgement at you like you owe us something." Its not a good look.
RE: By itself  
micky : 3/20/2017 10:05 pm : link
In comment 13400176 Sy'56 said:
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this isn't a big deal. Add this in to everything else he's been doing...there could be something brewing here that NYG won't want to deal with.

I hope I am wrong...I really do.


yes..and when it comes to re upping his contract..these kind of things along with other things taken in consideration..might give enough to Giants to give second thought..JS
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christian : 3/20/2017 10:15 pm : link
Being bad for the team and being inconsiderate aren't the same.
RE: Yea I'm sure  
Bramton1 : 3/20/2017 11:17 pm : link
In comment 13400124 Chris684 said:
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that's the reason why!

Francesa only has the team's franchise QB on every week and just about any other member of the Giants organization he wants on any time from the owner on down.

Yep, he's just mad he can't get Beckham on there.


Francesa is known to hold a grudge. Didn't he bar Shockey from his show after the tight end canceled a weekly appearance because he had to pick up his mother from the airport?
RE: RE: By itself  
Bramton1 : 3/20/2017 11:20 pm : link
In comment 13400832 micky said:
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In comment 13400176 Sy'56 said:


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this isn't a big deal. Add this in to everything else he's been doing...there could be something brewing here that NYG won't want to deal with.

I hope I am wrong...I really do.



yes..and when it comes to re upping his contract..these kind of things along with other things taken in consideration..might give enough to Giants to give second thought..JS


Yeah, I'm sure when it's time to talk contract, the Giants will say "You've been our best player every year since you were drafted, but you keep canceling your public appearances last minute. So why don't you go and sign with the Cowboys or something?"
Do you what  
uconngiant : 3/21/2017 1:03 am : link
You say you're going to do, especially if you make a commitment to be there. Maturity is something OBJ needs to work on
He's got priorities  
feelflows : 3/21/2017 7:03 am : link
http://pagesix.com/2017/03/18/stars-flock-to-la-opening-of-tao/

Why fulfill a commitment with fans when you could be hanging with celebs??

RE: RE: RE: By itself  
micky : 3/21/2017 7:13 am : link
In comment 13400935 Bramton1 said:
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In comment 13400832 micky said:


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In comment 13400176 Sy'56 said:


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this isn't a big deal. Add this in to everything else he's been doing...there could be something brewing here that NYG won't want to deal with.

I hope I am wrong...I really do.



yes..and when it comes to re upping his contract..these kind of things along with other things taken in consideration..might give enough to Giants to give second thought..JS



Yeah, I'm sure when it's time to talk contract, the Giants will say "You've been our best player every year since you were drafted, but you keep canceling your public appearances last minute. So why don't you go and sign with the Cowboys or something?"


Remember I'm sure they take everything in "as a whole"..js.. you and seem not understanding in my post..
If this was Dez Bryant, Desean Jackson, or  
jlukes : 3/21/2017 7:59 am : link
Josh Norman, we would all be killing them.

Beckham is an ass for pulling a now show
But this is  
feelflows : 3/21/2017 8:10 am : link
TAO Los Angeles! A grand OPENING. He's waited his whole life to go to that. Have a heart!!!!
...  
Overseer : 3/21/2017 8:18 am : link
In comment 13400701 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13400680 Deej said:
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Guy plays his ass off and cares about winning so much it drives him nuts. I wish we had 53 OBJs.

but he punched a hole in a wall, we mist trade him...

he dances to much we must trade him..

he listens to rap music we must trade him..

his hair is blonde we must trade him...

he is making money from endorsements and being on tv and going to clubs, we must trade him...

he was on a boat in miami, we must trade him...

teammates say he is the hardest worker on the team, bbi says it cant be true because he is a cancer who is lazy and only cares about himself and nobody else

Can you provide a quote or a reference to someone referring to Beckham as "lazy"?

Moreover, consider less each individual incident (for which, with the exception of spearing Josh Norman's head, I agree excessive opprobrium is unwarranted) and recognize the overall body of work.

Certainly not time to trade him (unless the offer was bonkers - multiple 1st/2nds) but if you can't admit there are at least some mild warning signs, then we'll never not talk past each other.

Again, please provide reference to someone referring to him as ""lazy".
RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 3/21/2017 8:30 am : link
In comment 13401024 Overseer said:
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In comment 13400701 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 13400680 Deej said:
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Guy plays his ass off and cares about winning so much it drives him nuts. I wish we had 53 OBJs.

but he punched a hole in a wall, we mist trade him...

he dances to much we must trade him..

he listens to rap music we must trade him..

his hair is blonde we must trade him...

he is making money from endorsements and being on tv and going to clubs, we must trade him...

he was on a boat in miami, we must trade him...

teammates say he is the hardest worker on the team, bbi says it cant be true because he is a cancer who is lazy and only cares about himself and nobody else


Can you provide a quote or a reference to someone referring to Beckham as "lazy"?

Moreover, consider less each individual incident (for which, with the exception of spearing Josh Norman's head, I agree excessive opprobrium is unwarranted) and recognize the overall body of work.

Certainly not time to trade him (unless the offer was bonkers - multiple 1st/2nds) but if you can't admit there are at least some mild warning signs, then we'll never not talk past each other.

Again, please provide reference to someone referring to him as ""lazy".


just look at this thread, there is somrone insinuating he doesnt work hard and ifnit was him he would be working hard at his craft 24/7...

Pauln said he doesnt work hard and is more worried about public persona..

and i agree the norman thing was a big black cloud that he still has not gotten over yet, but what has he done off the field that has been so bad?

arrested? nope

drug suspension? nope

failed drig tests? nope

if his worst thing is going to miami on his off day then i think most of it you can get over...

also everything he does is magnified, no matter what he does it is spun in the wrong direction..

at the pro bowl evwryone said how great he was with fans and the media, yet new yoek talking heads said who cares he did it for the cameras and it means nothing
RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 3/21/2017 8:31 am : link
In comment 13401024 Overseer said:
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In comment 13400701 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 13400680 Deej said:
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Guy plays his ass off and cares about winning so much it drives him nuts. I wish we had 53 OBJs.

but he punched a hole in a wall, we mist trade him...

he dances to much we must trade him..

he listens to rap music we must trade him..

his hair is blonde we must trade him...

he is making money from endorsements and being on tv and going to clubs, we must trade him...

he was on a boat in miami, we must trade him...

teammates say he is the hardest worker on the team, bbi says it cant be true because he is a cancer who is lazy and only cares about himself and nobody else


Can you provide a quote or a reference to someone referring to Beckham as "lazy"?

Moreover, consider less each individual incident (for which, with the exception of spearing Josh Norman's head, I agree excessive opprobrium is unwarranted) and recognize the overall body of work.

Certainly not time to trade him (unless the offer was bonkers - multiple 1st/2nds) but if you can't admit there are at least some mild warning signs, then we'll never not talk past each other.

Again, please provide reference to someone referring to him as ""lazy".


just look at this thread, there is somrone insinuating he doesnt work hard and ifnit was him he would be working hard at his craft 24/7...

Pauln said he doesnt work hard and is more worried about public persona..

and i agree the norman thing was a big black cloud that he still has not gotten over yet, but what has he done off the field that has been so bad?

arrested? nope

drug suspension? nope

failed drig tests? nope

if his worst thing is going to miami on his off day then i think most of it you can get over...

also everything he does is magnified, no matter what he does it is spun in the wrong direction..

at the pro bowl evwryone said how great he was with fans and the media, yet new yoek talking heads said who cares he did it for the cameras and it means nothing
RE: RE: He should kill him for that.  
Beezer : 3/21/2017 8:32 am : link
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OBJ is a diva the Giants should trade.



Makes sense. Trade your best player for being an eccentric.


It's "eccentric" to fuck people over?

OK.
RE: RE: RE: He should kill him for that.  
nygiants16 : 3/21/2017 8:34 am : link
In comment 13401035 Beezer said:
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In comment 13400034 Frankie in Flushing said:


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OBJ is a diva the Giants should trade.



Makes sense. Trade your best player for being an eccentric.



It's "eccentric" to fuck people over?

OK.


fuck people over? fans were told 2 days in advance and they gotva full refund if they purchased the vip package...

someone who was there said landon collins badically ran out of the place after a couple of autographs...

The TAO opening in LA was Thursday night  
LedHeded : 3/21/2017 8:42 am : link
He canceled out of this Travel Agency's Breakfast Friday, emails were sent to those who bought the packages & full refunds were offered Friday.

The cancellation & refund offer was on the Travel Agency's site Saturday

And I am most certain that he the appearance fee was rescinded as I'm sure all that is covered on the appearance contract

From what I gathered, the Breakfast was enjoyed by the attendees with the exception of Francesa who was butt hurt & took it personally

I just don't see all the pearl clutching over this, it happens.

And yes I do agree that he has some growing up to do but when I was his age, I did not always make mature decisions.

All he owes me as a fan is his play on the field

And by all accounts he works/practices hard, his teammates like him & he's not a cancer in the locker room









RE: The TAO opening in LA was Thursday night  
UConn4523 : 3/21/2017 8:45 am : link
In comment 13401052 LedHeded said:
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He canceled out of this Travel Agency's Breakfast Friday, emails were sent to those who bought the packages & full refunds were offered Friday.

The cancellation & refund offer was on the Travel Agency's site Saturday

And I am most certain that he the appearance fee was rescinded as I'm sure all that is covered on the appearance contract

From what I gathered, the Breakfast was enjoyed by the attendees with the exception of Francesa who was butt hurt & took it personally

I just don't see all the pearl clutching over this, it happens.

And yes I do agree that he has some growing up to do but when I was his age, I did not always make mature decisions.

All he owes me as a fan is his play on the field

And by all accounts he works/practices hard, his teammates like him & he's not a cancer in the locker room










Thanks for posting. Seems that this was Mike being butthurt which was my original thought on the matter. I like Mike for what he is, but man, he will hold a grudge and take it to his deathbed.
Francesa tbinks he is the end all be all  
nygiants16 : 3/21/2017 9:16 am : link
so if someone refuses to give him an onterview that lerson becomes public enemy number 1 until that player apologizes to him and grants him an interview...

my guess beckham saw francesa was hosting and decided against going because he didnt want to give francesa the time of day, whoch is petty but i cant blame him...

if a guy is ripping me everday on the radio why am i gng to give him an interview?
What I can't tolerate with Francesa  
djm : 3/21/2017 10:33 am : link
is when he says the Giants just let Shockey do his own thing and didn't reign him in and now they are doing the same thing with BEckham. First off, he doesn't know wtf the Giants did or didn't do with Shockey and to sit here and say that Shockey didn't reach his potential based on the way he acted off the field is unfair. Shockey, like most TEs didn't dominate for ten years because he got banged up and took an absolute beating. That's a fact. Could Shockey have dedicated himself more to the game or his craft? Maybe, but from all accounts and visuals Shockey was always in ridiculous shape and condition. Ok he was a hot headed nut but he was never out of shape. And to now proclaim that the Giants are making the same mistakes with Beckham is just horseshit. Mike makes it seem like the Giants are where great talents go to underachieve. This isn't the 2009 Raiders. The Giants foster winning football. The evidence supports that. And really, what can the Giants do with Beckham? Mike is just butt hurt and blasting the Giants because it fits in to his agenda. It's misinformed crap. I like Mike but to take the Giants to task because Bechkham is an emotional diva WR is unfair. And to conjure up Shockey as evidence is even worse. What about all the great emotional players in NYG lore that the Giants nurtured? Should we ignore guys like Jacobs or Strahan or Armstead? Those guys were emotional fireplugs here. Giants did ok there.
what about Ahmad Brashaw  
djm : 3/21/2017 10:36 am : link
or Kerry COllins. Or Christian Peter. The list is practically endless of guys that came to the Giants with a dark cloud hanging over them or some shrouded concerns over them and they didn't nothing but flourish here. Mike can eat a dick. He's wrong on this one. If you're going to blast the org at least weigh the facts.
and like I said earlier  
djm : 3/21/2017 10:44 am : link
I do want to see Bechham display maturity just for the sake of posterity. At the very least you want your star players to be as good as possible off the field. It can't hurt. I am not absolving Beckham at all but it's unfair to kill the Giants. They can't control players off the field. They can only foster a stable and mature environment. I hate when Mike goes on these tangents and kills the Giants.
Mike showing he cares while at the table with food  
Vin R : 3/21/2017 11:17 am : link
RE: RE: Things that can be true at the same time:  
81_Great_Dane : 3/21/2017 1:04 pm : link
In comment 13400467 therealmf said:
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You forgot this one.

Fans can over react to a player cancelling an appointment without knowing the reason why.
Yes I did! Also true.
Bahaha.. haha  
Route 9 : 3/21/2017 9:23 pm : link
Lol, this has the most posts on an active BBI thread?

Yeah, what the hell is a wrap up breakfast anyway? The name alone sounds lame enough to not want to attend. Don't tell anyone I tried to win free tickets on here. Francesa doesn't like him? Oh boy, my opinion is totally changed.
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