with his behavior here then you never will see anything wrong with what he does. Bailing on something you agreed to and (supposedly) were paid to says a lot about him. I keep thinking of that dumbass boat trip before the Packer game. Not that the trip happened but how he played following it. He was a huge reason the Giants lost that day and played perhaps one of his worst games period. Are the two things related?? Maybe not but hard to ignore it when the result was so damn poor.
His judgment is flawed. His need to be the center of attention, even at the detriment of his team is a concern.
What are you trying to get at? One is constantly working at his craft and the other isn't based on randomly juxtaposed instagram videos?
I'm getting at exactly what I said. This should sum up our two receivers. I didn't say it was negative or bad. Two different guys with two different personalities.
For someone who claims to not care about anything Beckham does with his personal life, you sure seem to care a lot about what Beckham does with his personal life....
Arc, to be fair, this is a quasi team function that people paid alot of money for to have access to him for his autograph.
Why does it always seem to be him? Did any other players no show? I'm not sure the answer, just curious.
I honestly don't give a shit what he does anywhere besides on the football field as long as its not criminal or anything that puts his being on the field in jeopardy.
Fans get sucked into this TMZ-esque obsession with everything athletes do in their spare time.
If he blew this off without having a good reason, shame on him.
It's still near the very bottom of things I care about when it comes to football players.
I don't need Odell Beckham Jr. to be my role model or win man of the year awards. If he keeps doing what he does on the field, that's good enough for me.
This is from Eric's thread about the breakfast. After reading this, you guys don't have an issue with him no-showing this event?
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Join us for Big Blue Travel's GIANTS wrap-up breakfast - an institution since 1996.
This year we honor offensive MVP Odell Beckham Jr. and defensive MVP Landon Collins, along with many other teammates.
The event will be held on Sunday, March 19 at the Hilton Meadowlands Hotel across the street from MetLife Stadium.
Your morning includes a buffet breakfast, video presentation of the 2016 season, a question and answer session with players hosted by Mike Francesa, and complimentary autographs.
(Note: Odell Beckham Jr. will not be participating in the autograph signing session with the rest of the players. To receive his autograph and picture, you much purchase the VIP package).
and people who take mike francesa at his word sight unseen to be able to further the "Beckham is a bad guy" narrative on the other side.
And somewhere in between, suggestions of multiple personality disorder and showcasing a video of him listening to rap music as illustration of...something.
Now look into who Brandon Marshall was at the same age.
Marshall was probably worse. Marshall is a great example of an NFL'er who matured and I'm excited that he and OBJ are teamed up now. Beckham brings a lot of the negativity on himself and at the same time I think these things are easy to avoid. He will clean it up, I just hope he get's there sooner than later so that we can limit the distractions.
that Beckham pulls this kind of shit. I used to defend Shockey but after years of watching pro sports I have learned that the better the player is off the field the better he usually is on it. Not that BEckham is a reckless maniac off the field or anything but these kind of things do bother me a little bit. These signs indicate a character flaw. Character flaws will impact someone more and more as they age. Hopefully Beckham matures over the next few years.
I defended him all throughout the Josh Norman stuff and will continue to. But screwing fans out of their money at the last minute is kind of shitty. Now, if he has a real excuse, then that's fine. But if he doesn't; that's kind of shitty. Won't change my opinion of him, but screwing people out of their money without a valid excuse (which he may have) is shitty.
Francesa only has the team's franchise QB on every week and just about any other member of the Giants organization he wants on any time from the owner on down.
Yep, he's just mad he can't get Beckham on there.
RE: RE: I'm always surprised when people care about stuff that has literally
nothing to do with on-field performance. After all this time, I know I shouldn't be.
it shows his true character, like maybe he won't show up on the field sometimes also like in Green bay!!!
He's not a machine, so there's a high probability he will have games in which he doesn't perform well. The fact that we've seen Eli Manning shit his pants in big games with absolutely ZERO questions about his "true character" should make people hesitant to draw lines between off-field behavior and on the field production.
pray the Giants trade the guy. That's just ridiculous. But it would be nice to see the most talented NYG draft pick in decades to act like a pro on and off the field. You want to see Beckham get every ounce of talent out of his career.
Now look into who Brandon Marshall was at the same age.
Marshall was probably worse. Marshall is a great example of an NFL'er who matured and I'm excited that he and OBJ are teamed up now. Beckham brings a lot of the negativity on himself and at the same time I think these things are easy to avoid. He will clean it up, I just hope he get's there sooner than later so that we can limit the distractions.
I hope Marshall provides some sort of mentorship for OBJ, something Cruz had failed to do. Marshall was/is a no 1 star WR for many years.
pray the Giants trade the guy. That's just ridiculous. But it would be nice to see the most talented NYG draft pick in decades to act like a pro on and off the field. You want to see Beckham get every ounce of talent out of his career.
I'm not calling for the Giants to trade Beckham right now either, but not showing the events is added to a list of negative attention on Beckham and it could lead the Giants to trading him in the future.
if Beckham didn't show up for that event. In fact, I'd actually like it even more if he told Mike he was coming and then didn't. Fuck Mike, he blasts Beckham every other week to listeners all across the country with no accountability so why the fuck should Beckham help him?
if Beckham didn't show up for that event. In fact, I'd actually like it even more if he told Mike he was coming and then didn't. Fuck Mike, he blasts Beckham every other week to listeners all across the country with no accountability so why the fuck should Beckham help him?
It's not a Mike Francesa event. It's a Big Blue Travel Wrap Up Breakfast that they've had for years. Fans pay good money to go that event. Francesa is just the host.
if Beckham didn't show up for that event. In fact, I'd actually like it even more if he told Mike he was coming and then didn't. Fuck Mike, he blasts Beckham every other week to listeners all across the country with no accountability so why the fuck should Beckham help him?
He's not helping Mike. It's a Giants thing, not a Mike thing. He's just the host.
I'm not calling for the Giants to trade Beckham right now either, but not showing the events is added to a list of negative attention on Beckham and it could lead the Giants to trading him in the future.
I think some of you guys are in La-La Land.
This is a team who kept a KICKER who had physically and mentally abused his wife on the team until it became publicly untenable for them to do so. They invite a man who was charged with sex with an underage prostitute back to team functions. If you think this stuff is going to make them trade one of the most talented/productive players in sports, you're crazy.
So now I said Beckham cost us the Baltimore game? The game we won?
Your ball washing of Beckham is getting in the way of facts now.
How is asking for more facts before jumping to conclusions ball washing? You certainly did kill Beckham for the penalty in Baltimore, and conveniently forgot to mention the play was essentially a walk off HR.
My overall feeling of this is Beckham is wrong for not showing up to this event UNLESS he has a good reason for skipping it.
I mentioned that the this kind of thing along with boat trip to Miami/dropped passes in the playoff game and his sometimes immature antics on the field could eventually lead him to the Giants trading him.
I didn't say they will or should. I said they could.
Beckham gives a shit what Mike Francesa thinks of him?.
Definitely. He's got very thin skin. This has been demonstrated. A characteristic which is very commonly accompanied by an extreme sensitivity to criticism (hmm..where else are we seeing that presently...?)
Francesca (deservedly) excoriated OBJ after Carolina when he Brian Dawkins'd Norman.
His judgment is flawed. His need to be the center of attention, even at the detriment of his team is a concern.
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These clips should sum up our two receivers:
Marshall:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3LcUOhXIA/?taken-by=bmarshall&hl=en
Beckham:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRyssvYjidC/?taken-by=obj&hl=en
What are you trying to get at? One is constantly working at his craft and the other isn't based on randomly juxtaposed instagram videos?
I'm getting at exactly what I said. This should sum up our two receivers. I didn't say it was negative or bad. Two different guys with two different personalities.
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For someone who claims to not care about anything Beckham does with his personal life, you sure seem to care a lot about what Beckham does with his personal life....
Arc, to be fair, this is a quasi team function that people paid alot of money for to have access to him for his autograph.
Why does it always seem to be him? Did any other players no show? I'm not sure the answer, just curious.
I honestly don't give a shit what he does anywhere besides on the football field as long as its not criminal or anything that puts his being on the field in jeopardy.
Fans get sucked into this TMZ-esque obsession with everything athletes do in their spare time.
If he blew this off without having a good reason, shame on him.
It's still near the very bottom of things I care about when it comes to football players.
I don't need Odell Beckham Jr. to be my role model or win man of the year awards. If he keeps doing what he does on the field, that's good enough for me.
Exactly. This guy is Jeremy Shockey all over again.
This year we honor offensive MVP Odell Beckham Jr. and defensive MVP Landon Collins, along with many other teammates.
The event will be held on Sunday, March 19 at the Hilton Meadowlands Hotel across the street from MetLife Stadium.
Your morning includes a buffet breakfast, video presentation of the 2016 season, a question and answer session with players hosted by Mike Francesa, and complimentary autographs.
(Note: Odell Beckham Jr. will not be participating in the autograph signing session with the rest of the players. To receive his autograph and picture, you much purchase the VIP package).
And somewhere in between, suggestions of multiple personality disorder and showcasing a video of him listening to rap music as illustration of...something.
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These clips should sum up our two receivers:
Marshall:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3LcUOhXIA/?taken-by=bmarshall&hl=en
Beckham:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRyssvYjidC/?taken-by=obj&hl=en
Now look into who Brandon Marshall was at the same age.
Marshall was probably worse. Marshall is a great example of an NFL'er who matured and I'm excited that he and OBJ are teamed up now. Beckham brings a lot of the negativity on himself and at the same time I think these things are easy to avoid. He will clean it up, I just hope he get's there sooner than later so that we can limit the distractions.
Let's start with a full 1 game suspension and work down from there to the various 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties he's taken.
it shows his true character, like maybe he won't show up on the field sometimes also like in Green bay!!!
If so, that's just more me me me. What other drivers? What a fucking clown.
He hosted the event. He probably witnessed the red-faced reaction of whoever is in charge of this function as Beckham no-showed.
He hosted the event. He probably witnessed the red-faced reaction of whoever is in charge of this function as Beckham no-showed.
you realize francesa hates beckham because beckham wont go on his show?
Let's start with a full 1 game suspension and work down from there to the various 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties he's taken.
The "but" doesn't outweigh the great.
We had guys on this team in recent years lose multiple games to drug and PED suspensions.
If so, that's just more me me me. What other drivers? What a fucking clown.
Car was definitely moving. My hope was that he was overseas and the passenger in the car. I think he was in Europe touring with Drake last week.
Francesa only has the team's franchise QB on every week and just about any other member of the Giants organization he wants on any time from the owner on down.
Yep, he's just mad he can't get Beckham on there.
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nothing to do with on-field performance. After all this time, I know I shouldn't be.
it shows his true character, like maybe he won't show up on the field sometimes also like in Green bay!!!
He's not a machine, so there's a high probability he will have games in which he doesn't perform well. The fact that we've seen Eli Manning shit his pants in big games with absolutely ZERO questions about his "true character" should make people hesitant to draw lines between off-field behavior and on the field production.
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doesn't know what he's talking about?
He hosted the event. He probably witnessed the red-faced reaction of whoever is in charge of this function as Beckham no-showed.
you realize francesa hates beckham because beckham wont go on his show?
It still doesn't excuse Beckham for not going to the event, unless he has a good reason for it.
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These clips should sum up our two receivers:
Marshall:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3LcUOhXIA/?taken-by=bmarshall&hl=en
Beckham:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRyssvYjidC/?taken-by=obj&hl=en
Now look into who Brandon Marshall was at the same age.
Marshall was probably worse. Marshall is a great example of an NFL'er who matured and I'm excited that he and OBJ are teamed up now. Beckham brings a lot of the negativity on himself and at the same time I think these things are easy to avoid. He will clean it up, I just hope he get's there sooner than later so that we can limit the distractions.
I hope Marshall provides some sort of mentorship for OBJ, something Cruz had failed to do. Marshall was/is a no 1 star WR for many years.
I'm not calling for the Giants to trade Beckham right now either, but not showing the events is added to a list of negative attention on Beckham and it could lead the Giants to trading him in the future.
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But he has done plenty to hurt this team ON the field in the last 2 years. Plenty.
Let's start with a full 1 game suspension and work down from there to the various 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties he's taken.
The "but" doesn't outweigh the great.
We had guys on this team in recent years lose multiple games to drug and PED suspensions.
Pretty sure this is the guy who said OBJ cost us the game in Baltimore.
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but in that instagram video posted at 1:57, is that car in motion while he's jamming out to Murda Beatz with his eyes no where near the road?
If so, that's just more me me me. What other drivers? What a fucking clown.
Car was definitely moving. My hope was that he was overseas and the passenger in the car. I think he was in Europe touring with Drake last week.
He's not driving the car.
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But he has done plenty to hurt this team ON the field in the last 2 years. Plenty.
Let's start with a full 1 game suspension and work down from there to the various 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties he's taken.
The "but" doesn't outweigh the great.
We had guys on this team in recent years lose multiple games to drug and PED suspensions.
Pretty sure this is the guy who said OBJ cost us the game in Baltimore.
Not me.
Your ball washing of Beckham is getting in the way of facts now.
It's not a Mike Francesa event. It's a Big Blue Travel Wrap Up Breakfast that they've had for years. Fans pay good money to go that event. Francesa is just the host.
He's not helping Mike. It's a Giants thing, not a Mike thing. He's just the host.
I'm not calling for the Giants to trade Beckham right now either, but not showing the events is added to a list of negative attention on Beckham and it could lead the Giants to trading him in the future.
I think some of you guys are in La-La Land.
This is a team who kept a KICKER who had physically and mentally abused his wife on the team until it became publicly untenable for them to do so. They invite a man who was charged with sex with an underage prostitute back to team functions. If you think this stuff is going to make them trade one of the most talented/productive players in sports, you're crazy.
Your ball washing of Beckham is getting in the way of facts now.
How is asking for more facts before jumping to conclusions ball washing? You certainly did kill Beckham for the penalty in Baltimore, and conveniently forgot to mention the play was essentially a walk off HR.
The only who is crying is you. We're just discussing this, but you seem to be the one who is all bent out of shape of any criticism of Beckham.
So weird.
I hope I am wrong...I really do.
according to the flyer fans had to pay for a vip package and it sounds like they would get their aitograph in the mail..
sounds like the only thing he skipped the was the q and a with francesa..
Ryan,
My overall feeling of this is Beckham is wrong for not showing up to this event UNLESS he has a good reason for skipping it.
I mentioned that the this kind of thing along with boat trip to Miami/dropped passes in the playoff game and his sometimes immature antics on the field could eventually lead him to the Giants trading him.
I didn't say they will or should. I said they could.
Definitely. He's got very thin skin. This has been demonstrated. A characteristic which is very commonly accompanied by an extreme sensitivity to criticism (hmm..where else are we seeing that presently...?)
Francesca (deservedly) excoriated OBJ after Carolina when he Brian Dawkins'd Norman.