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Francesa killing Beckham for no showing at Wrap Up Breakfast

MookGiants : 3/20/2017 1:20 pm
Says he cancelled on saturday night last minute after getting paid and agreeing to come.

Not a good look for him
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I would boycott the Giants if they traded Odell  
est1986 : 3/20/2017 3:31 pm : link
For this shit or for anything hes done so far on or off the field. People who say otherwise are just dumb Giants fans.
Is this why Eric gave away  
B in ALB : 3/20/2017 3:33 pm : link
a free ticket to this thing?
Best to wait and see  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 3/20/2017 3:34 pm : link
How this thing unfolds before forming an opinion.
RE: Best to wait and see  
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2017 3:44 pm : link
In comment 13400341 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
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How this thing unfolds before forming an opinion.

We don't do that here
RE: RE: Check it out...  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/20/2017 3:50 pm : link
In comment 13400087 spike said:
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These clips should sum up our two receivers:

Marshall:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3LcUOhXIA/?taken-by=bmarshall&hl=en

Beckham:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRyssvYjidC/?taken-by=obj&hl=en




Gen X er vs millenial.

Brandon Marshall in NOT gen-X, not even close.
RE: I am starting  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/20/2017 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13400239 PaulN said:
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To think the Giants will be better off without this guy, he simply is all about himself and nothing else, and that is a cancer. Go get another wideout in this draft, another next season and fuck this choker.

I've thought BBI would be better without you for years, yet somehow we manage to tolerate the suffering. You should try doing the same.
I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
EricJ : 3/20/2017 3:58 pm : link
just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.
Wow, lets chill a bit  
Emil : 3/20/2017 4:07 pm : link
Not saying OBJ doesn't need to grow up, he clearly does. And I am not excusing any past behavior or the times when he has literally no showed. But this kind of stuff happens all the time. Happens every day in the corporate and political world. People's schedules change all the time and for a variety of reasons, many of them personal. If in fact OBJ and the Giants informed the organizers of the wrap up breakfast that OBJ would be a no show, that is plenty of lead time.

However, no one can deny this "looks" bad for OBJ. An extremely talented player with a large immature streak. As a fan its incredibly annoying because you see a player who has the world on a string, was an outstanding team mate and organizational rep at the pro-bowl, shakes hands of vets prior to the game, but still exhibits a selfishness mostly seen in teenagers. None of us are perfect and we should all remember that, but OBJ and the people around him need to remember no amount of receptions and TDs will make up for the damage to his image that he can cause off the field.

I think this latest hoopla will blow over. I think Francesa is blowing this out of proportion, especially since he is heavily involved in the event. However, there is no doubt this is a trend with Beckham, no matter whether his absence is justified or explainable. He is under a microscope, and I don't envy him. This is the double edged sword of stardom.
RE: RE: Best to wait and see  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 4:08 pm : link
In comment 13400363 ryanmkeane said:
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In comment 13400341 Tittle 9 20 64 said:


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How this thing unfolds before forming an opinion.


We don't do that here


Not a single person that jumped to conclusions has the grace to admit they did so.
RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
Emil : 3/20/2017 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13400384 EricJ said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.


basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not
RE: RE: RE: Best to wait and see  
Go Terps : 3/20/2017 4:23 pm : link
In comment 13400402 David in LA said:
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In comment 13400341 Tittle 9 20 64 said:


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How this thing unfolds before forming an opinion.


We don't do that here



Not a single person that jumped to conclusions has the grace to admit they did so.


I reached the conclusion that Beckham is a jerk a long time ago.

Consistently excusing lousy behavior on and off the field isn't grace either.
No way the Giants are happy they have to refund  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 4:27 pm : link
a bunch of money for this unless there is a really, really good reason..
RE: No way the Giants are happy they have to refund  
drkenneth : 3/20/2017 4:30 pm : link
In comment 13400436 Dave in Hoboken said:
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a bunch of money for this unless there is a really, really good reason..


Wouldn't Big Blue Travel have to refund, since they run the event? Not sure the Giants org is involved here.
RE: RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
EricJ : 3/20/2017 4:38 pm : link
In comment 13400408 Emil said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.



basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not


The reality is that HE is the one doing this stuff. People are just reacting to it. If you know that the media has their eye on you then you are even more of an idiot for doing those things.

I guess I am just old school. If I had a shot at an NFL career, my focus would have been solely on improving my game knowing that my career will most likely be short and doing so can potentially extend it a bit. I would understand that once I am out of the game in my early to mid 30s I would have the rest of my life to do whatever the fuck I want.
Things that can be true at the same time:  
81_Great_Dane : 3/20/2017 4:38 pm : link
Mike Francesa is a thin-skinned, arrogant blowhard who likes to get on athletes over perceived personal affronts.

Odell Beckham Jr. is immature and has repeatedly behaved in ways that undermine his employer's PR effort and damage his own brand.
RE: Things that can be true at the same time:  
therealmf : 3/20/2017 4:43 pm : link
In comment 13400457 81_Great_Dane said:
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Mike Francesa is a thin-skinned, arrogant blowhard who likes to get on athletes over perceived personal affronts.

Odell Beckham Jr. is immature and has repeatedly behaved in ways that undermine his employer's PR effort and damage his own brand.


You forgot this one.

Fans can over react to a player cancelling an appointment without knowing the reason why.
RE: RE: RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 4:48 pm : link
In comment 13400455 EricJ said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.



basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not



The reality is that HE is the one doing this stuff. People are just reacting to it. If you know that the media has their eye on you then you are even more of an idiot for doing those things.

I guess I am just old school. If I had a shot at an NFL career, my focus would have been solely on improving my game knowing that my career will most likely be short and doing so can potentially extend it a bit. I would understand that once I am out of the game in my early to mid 30s I would have the rest of my life to do whatever the fuck I want.


by all accounts he is one of the hardest workers on the team...
Before he's gone....  
Mike From Brielle : 3/20/2017 4:53 pm : link
Francesa will take any and all shots at the Giants and Giant players he can.
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Mad Mike : 3/20/2017 4:53 pm : link
In comment 13400470 nygiants16 said:
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by all accounts he is one of the hardest workers on the team...

Stop making sense.
RE: Before he's gone....  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2017 4:58 pm : link
In comment 13400481 Mike From Brielle said:
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Francesa will take any and all shots at the Giants and Giant players he can.


only the players who wont go on his show
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j_rud : 3/20/2017 5:02 pm : link
In comment 13400455 EricJ said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.



basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not



The reality is that HE is the one doing this stuff. People are just reacting to it. If you know that the media has their eye on you then you are even more of an idiot for doing those things.

I guess I am just old school. If I had a shot at an NFL career, my focus would have been solely on improving my game knowing that my career will most likely be short and doing so can potentially extend it a bit. I would understand that once I am out of the game in my early to mid 30s I would have the rest of my life to do whatever the fuck I want.


Not a commentary on Beckham in any way, but it's awfully easy to say how you would have acted in your 20s when you're in your 40s or 50s. It's really disingenuous and kinda funny. "Well here's how I would act in this situation, and don't think for a second that my cumulative life experience, which this young man clearly doesn't have, is influencing my statement one bit.
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David in LA : 3/20/2017 5:03 pm : link
In comment 13400455 EricJ said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.



basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not



The reality is that HE is the one doing this stuff. People are just reacting to it. If you know that the media has their eye on you then you are even more of an idiot for doing those things.

I guess I am just old school. If I had a shot at an NFL career, my focus would have been solely on improving my game knowing that my career will most likely be short and doing so can potentially extend it a bit. I would understand that once I am out of the game in my early to mid 30s I would have the rest of my life to do whatever the fuck I want.


I have my doubts that you, nor anyone else here would have any clue on how to handle that type of fame. There's famous, and then there's super-duper-star famous in a 24 hour news cycle, and social media.
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David in LA : 3/20/2017 5:05 pm : link
In comment 13400455 EricJ said:
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In comment 13400384 EricJ said:


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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.



basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not



The reality is that HE is the one doing this stuff. People are just reacting to it. If you know that the media has their eye on you then you are even more of an idiot for doing those things.

I guess I am just old school. If I had a shot at an NFL career, my focus would have been solely on improving my game knowing that my career will most likely be short and doing so can potentially extend it a bit. I would understand that once I am out of the game in my early to mid 30s I would have the rest of my life to do whatever the fuck I want.


I have my doubts that you, nor anyone else here would have any clue on how to handle that type of fame. There's famous, and then there's super-duper-star famous in a 24 hour news cycle, and social media.
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OBJ_AllDay : 3/20/2017 5:28 pm : link
zeke is laughing somewhere right now wondering how people ignore a domestic violence allegation and a video of him ripping a woman's clothes off and choose to get mad over beckham dancing or missing a signing... Smh. Bunch of dopes. The TV or radio personality tells u how to feel and you eat it up..
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j_rud : 3/20/2017 5:33 pm : link
In comment 13400538 OBJ_AllDay said:
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zeke is laughing somewhere right now wondering how people ignore a domestic violence allegation and a video of him ripping a woman's clothes off and choose to get mad over beckham dancing or missing a signing... Smh. Bunch of dopes. The TV or radio personality tells u how to feel and you eat it up..


Giants fans were all over Elliot for his actions. You're acting like Giants fans condoned it. But that doesn't fit your ridiculous narrative, so...sheeple! Sheeple EVERYWHERE!
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Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 5:34 pm : link
In comment 13400538 OBJ_AllDay said:
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zeke is laughing somewhere right now wondering how people ignore a domestic violence allegation and a video of him ripping a woman's clothes off and choose to get mad over beckham dancing or missing a signing... Smh. Bunch of dopes. The TV or radio personality tells u how to feel and you eat it up..


Listen, I agree that some Giants fans on here are huge hypocrites in relation to looking the other way with Giants players most of the time. But comparing what Elliot did to what Beckham did here isn't the same thing at all. What Beckham did, without a legitimate reason, is shitty. But Elliot's actions are worse..
RE: RE: So it wasn't a last second no show  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 5:44 pm : link
In comment 13400331 MookGiants said:
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And half of BBI is ready to crucify the kid.



36 hours before an event when it's been planned for a couple months absolutely is a last second no show.


Man, you'd be raking it in as a doctor with that terrible policy. Talk about a reach.
When the show is announced months in advance,  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 5:45 pm : link
calling out of it 1.5 days before is kind of last minute. Is this an actual debate?
Now mike is debating  
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2017 5:50 pm : link
with a caller on how long Landing collins stayed to sign autographs. Was it 1 hour or was it 2 hours?
Seems like the goalposts moved a bit  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 5:50 pm : link
First he was a punk for blowing off the event.

Now he didn't give them enough notice.



RE: Seems like the goalposts moved a bit  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 5:52 pm : link
In comment 13400573 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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First he was a punk for blowing off the event.

Now he didn't give them enough notice.




Of course it did. This place shows that it can suck ass very hard at times.
RE: Seems like the goalposts moved a bit  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2017 5:54 pm : link
In comment 13400573 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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First he was a punk for blowing off the event.

Now he didn't give them enough notice.




It can be both. They aren't mutually exclusive. If you don't want to go, you can let the Giants know a decent amount of time in advance.

But I forgot with BBI. Certain Giants employees never make a mistake.
RE: RE: RE: So it wasn't a last second no show  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 5:54 pm : link
In comment 13400567 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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And half of BBI is ready to crucify the kid.



36 hours before an event when it's been planned for a couple months absolutely is a last second no show.



Man, you'd be raking it in as a doctor with that terrible policy. Talk about a reach.


yeah, because a doctors appointment has hundreds of people relying on you to be there after they shelled out hundreds of dollars expecting you to be there. When you put out 600 dollars for a ticket and promise your kid he's going to get to meet Beckham and get an autograph, him cancelling 36 hours before absolutely is last minute.

Comparing it to cancelling a doctors appointment is mind numbing.
and Beckham  
MookGiants : 3/20/2017 5:58 pm : link
doesn't get the benefit of the doubt as far as cancelling for a legitimate reason because he has done this multiple times. So he lost that benefit of the doubt. He's known to blow these things off. It's a bad look for him. I would never pay 5 bucks for an autograph, but I'm also not going to rip on people who will, especially people who are doing so so their kids get to meet the player.

These guys would have zero money playing football if it wasn't for the fans, guys like Beckham should respect that instead of blowing these things off regularly. He doesn't have to do any of this stuff, but if you commit to it and regularly back out, you look like an asshole.

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Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 6:00 pm : link
In comment 13400455 EricJ said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball. Stop creating a "circus" like atmosphere with your bullshit.



basically, I agree. Stop the circus, and recognize tons of people are just waiting to turn your every move into a circus. Justified or not



The reality is that HE is the one doing this stuff. People are just reacting to it. If you know that the media has their eye on you then you are even more of an idiot for doing those things.



At what point do people have some responsibility here? Maybe the problem is the people are the ones that stick their noses into the lives of 20 year old kids and come away confused and angry that 20 somethings act like 20 somethings. If he puts his life on twitter, that's one thing. It's quite another to decide to care about it.

Maybe it's the people's fault for gobbling up twitter gossip and sports radio and reacting to things irrationally venomously. Sports fans make these guys way more important than they really are, then get shocked that a stranger doesn't meet their idealized impression of them.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 6:01 pm : link
In comment 13400584 MookGiants said:
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And half of BBI is ready to crucify the kid.



36 hours before an event when it's been planned for a couple months absolutely is a last second no show.



Man, you'd be raking it in as a doctor with that terrible policy. Talk about a reach.



yeah, because a doctors appointment has hundreds of people relying on you to be there after they shelled out hundreds of dollars expecting you to be there. When you put out 600 dollars for a ticket and promise your kid he's going to get to meet Beckham and get an autograph, him cancelling 36 hours before absolutely is last minute.

Comparing it to cancelling a doctors appointment is mind numbing.


Yeah, you're really upset for the kids, huh?
Well KWALL paid $600 to see Lebron  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 6:05 pm : link
at least people got a refund and notice ahead of time. BFD if you get your money back.
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therealmf : 3/20/2017 6:07 pm : link
In comment 13400584 MookGiants said:
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And half of BBI is ready to crucify the kid.



36 hours before an event when it's been planned for a couple months absolutely is a last second no show.



Man, you'd be raking it in as a doctor with that terrible policy. Talk about a reach.



yeah, because a doctors appointment has hundreds of people relying on you to be there after they shelled out hundreds of dollars expecting you to be there. When you put out 600 dollars for a ticket and promise your kid he's going to get to meet Beckham and get an autograph, him cancelling 36 hours before absolutely is last minute.

Comparing it to cancelling a doctors appointment is mind numbing.


Doctors have policies about how far in advance an appointment must be cancelled not to be charged. Do you know what is customary notice for an event like this? I don't but do you?
In and of itself....It's not really a huge deal  
AnnapolisMike : 3/20/2017 6:11 pm : link
If you step back and look at the larger picture then things like this and all the other silly crap allows people to form an opinion of him and the type of person he is. Some won't care....others will.

He is not going anywhere with regards to the Giants. They will pick up his option next year. But if the sillyness continues...perhaps he is a guy you let go instead of paying him $50M+ guaranteed.

I've seen him stay late well past what should reasonably be expected  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2017 6:13 pm : link
to greet and sign for kids and families, for free, after training camp practices.

But yeah, let's sharpen up those axes and pretend it's all about the kids.

Hopefully more comes out to further blow apart this non story mouthpieced by the king of grudging against sports personalities who don't kiss his ring.
RE: I dont care what the guy does off of the field...  
Mr. Bungle : 3/20/2017 6:17 pm : link
In comment 13400384 EricJ said:
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just show up EVERY game and catch the fucking ball

Well, he doesn't do that, either. Like playoff games.
BigBlueBreakfast I was there  
dlgiants : 3/20/2017 6:51 pm : link
I was at the Breakfast on Sunday
Yea - Beckham cancelled but we got notified a couple of days before the event (Friday night? ) via email which was no big deal for me because it was noted from the start that Beckham would not being part of the autograph session at the end of the show and I was not going to pay the $599.00 for the VIP ticket so I could "meet and greet OBJ and Collins"
Francesa, showed up in the main area walking onto the stage waving at people like he was the Mayor of NY and when it was his time, talked for about 10 minutes off of some written notes about each player that showed up. I no longer have any use for Francesa - thank God for satellite radio

Beckham does have a lot of maturing to do - fast - but he may have a valid excuse for missing the breakfast

Beckham shows up before games and signs for everyone every home Sunday game He does have appreciation for the fan base

Landon Collins left right before they broke up for autographs - he walked - almost ran - straight out of the Hotel We were told he had to catch a flight at the airport

I have been going to these events for 10+ years (they did not have the breakfast for the past 4 years) and they have always been Hectic and the players announced are rarely the players who show up
ODB is who he is  
DieHard : 3/20/2017 6:57 pm : link
Those with a preconceived notion of how he should act, and are waiting/hoping/demanding for that to happen, are wasting their time. But if you take it as a certainty that his attitude will derail the team's chances, just remember: plenty of championship teams have had jerks playing major roles in their success.
Ever think something last minute came up in beckhams personal life  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2017 6:58 pm : link
ever happen to any of you?
Thanks for the insight DLGiants  
David in LA : 3/20/2017 7:01 pm : link
Seems like more people on this board are more outraged than the people that were in attendance.
It would be nice if we could just worry  
Motley Two : 3/20/2017 7:05 pm : link
about what the guy does ON the field and the last time I checked...oh right, he shit the bed in the play offs :(
He s becoming  
joeinpa : 3/20/2017 7:29 pm : link
A PIA for this franciise
OBJ has some off-field stuff  
Cenotaph : 3/20/2017 7:30 pm : link
And it's definitely a shitty move if he agreed to show up to an event like this (and got paid), but backed out last minute. But he might have a reasonable excuse, let's wait and see. If not, a shitty thing to do, but not on the same level as some of the off-field stuff you see. Beckham's issues at least seem to be more the 'young & dumb' type than the criminal or drug or violence types that really speak to a player's character...but not everyone is going to be Eli to the media.
RE: Ever think something last minute came up in beckhams personal life  
Emil : 3/20/2017 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13400640 UConn4523 said:
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ever happen to any of you?


Could very well be the case. And even though many of us fans think we have a right to know, we actually don't. We may never know exactly why he canceled and we are not entitled to. Only his employer has a right to know.

I'm in total agreement that OBJ has lost the benefit of the doubt, but lets put this in some perspective and realize we all lack context.
RE: BigBlueBreakfast I was there  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/20/2017 7:44 pm : link
In comment 13400631 dlgiants said:
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I was at the Breakfast on Sunday
Yea - Beckham cancelled but we got notified a couple of days before the event (Friday night? ) via email which was no big deal for me because it was noted from the start that Beckham would not being part of the autograph session at the end of the show and I was not going to pay the $599.00 for the VIP ticket so I could "meet and greet OBJ and Collins"
Francesa, showed up in the main area walking onto the stage waving at people like he was the Mayor of NY and when it was his time, talked for about 10 minutes off of some written notes about each player that showed up. I no longer have any use for Francesa - thank God for satellite radio

Beckham does have a lot of maturing to do - fast - but he may have a valid excuse for missing the breakfast

Beckham shows up before games and signs for everyone every home Sunday game He does have appreciation for the fan base

Landon Collins left right before they broke up for autographs - he walked - almost ran - straight out of the Hotel We were told he had to catch a flight at the airport

I have been going to these events for 10+ years (they did not have the breakfast for the past 4 years) and they have always been Hectic and the players announced are rarely the players who show up


Thanks for the information.
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