Ian Rapoport& #8207;Verified account @RapSheet 5m5 minutes ago
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Former #Jets QB Geno Smith has passed his physical and is signing with the #Giants, source said. It's a 1-year deal worth $2M total.
...they will be classified as NLTBE, so they won't hit the cap this year. (Smith has only played three games since 2014.) And they won't hit the cap in the future either, unless Eli gets hurt.
Geno Smith is a much better one than Johnny Manziel.
Either one is ridiculous. Kerry Collins led a team to the NFCCG in his 2nd season; neither Manziel not Geno could even hold down a starting job for bad teams for an entire year. Kerry's issues were personal demons more than ability. Once he got his life straightened out, he was a good NFL QB.
i dont mind this. if eli goes down its over anyways....geno can win you a game or two if needed. certainly can hold down the fort for a quarter or a half if eli got banged up....he cannot be worse than nassib lol. at least he has playing experience...
I bet he's better than Josh Johnson and Ryan Nassib.
I'm pretty sure the list of people who meet that requirement is long, but I wouldn't pay most of them anywhere near $2M/yr. Let's hope it's heavily incentive based.
RE: RE: I guess im the only one that sort of likes this move
it's a "project" signing, but he's only here for a year. Odd.
Maybe not. Giants will be able to monitor his progress in practice, and determine if they want to bring him back, maybe with a longer term deal. There is no downside for the Giants, unless Geno is even more of a locker room cancer than many fear.
BBI hasn't been this disappointed in a signing since...
Im. Not sure why he mentally imploded so
Badly but the Jets just seem
Such as it show. Who knows but let's hope he takes as many meaningful snaps as Nassib did.
. Giants don't have the cash or the interest in signing a 4-7 million dollar back up so
Any angst over
This is silly
RE: RE: If people want to make a comparison to Kerry Collins,
Geno Smith is a much better one than Johnny Manziel.
Either one is ridiculous. Kerry Collins led a team to the NFCCG in his 2nd season; neither Manziel not Geno could even hold down a starting job for bad teams for an entire year. Kerry's issues were personal demons more than ability. Once he got his life straightened out, he was a good NFL QB.
I'm not talking about win-loss records.
Just because he didn't **win as many games** as Kerry Collins doesn't mean that there aren't valid parellels between the two players at this point in their career. Geno Smith certainly has ability. Anyone with an objective mindset can see that. He showed enough promise in his rookie reason for optimism. For whatever reason, the train went off the rails after that. And then he had his jaw broken in 2015. His issues have as much to do with his personal demons as did Kerry Collins. He can salvage his career. If he chooses to. He may never be a hall of fame QB, but neither is Kerry Collins. He was a good QB with a big arm, but he was also very erratic and made a ton of mistakes. You could win with him, but he was never a championship QB. I don't see why Geno cannot close out his career on a similar level, assuming he has the desire.
Geno Smith has a very small NFL starter sample size on bad teams within a bad organization where more than one potentially promising QB career has gone to die.
He's had some pretty bad to decent starts mixed in. His main issues (maturity and perhaps leadership) are intangibles that, if he's committed, will only grow within this organization.
Josh McCown continues to get opportunity after opportunity to backup and compete for a starting gig and yet he is what? 2-20 in his last 22 starts?
Given what's out there, I like the idea. He's a project that could work out in their favor even if only a couple of starts should Eli ever go down.
Please. Who should they have signed? Who is
The Don Strock or Danny White that's out there? Please
Let all of us know. Want piss away 5-7 million for Hoyer. Want that idiot Kaepernick?
And I've been shifting on Reese for years about his OL
strategy and results. For which he Is about as bad as it gets I the whole NFL
The Giants just upgraded their backup QB roster spot.
Big deal? No.
Laughable signing? Don't see why it would be.
I agree he's an upgrade and perfectly fine for a back-up. He can win games and he has a much better supporting cast and support system then he's had before. That Jets team that drafted him was a mess Ryan's last few years.
People who say Geno suck don't know crap about football. Marshall who played with him and who caught balls from him should know a whole lot more than you guys.
I am not a fan of Smith but he does have abilities that the Giants obviously feel they may be able to mold into a solid backup QB. He has flashed at times most notably in the season finale two years ago against Miami.
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It's one thing to sign good players...it's another to sign good players who are good people. Way to go @Giants ✊🏾
Please. Who should they have signed? Who is
The Don Strock or Danny White that's out there? Please
Let all of us know. Want piss away 5-7 million for Hoyer. Want that idiot Kaepernick?
And I've been shifting on Reese for years about his OL
strategy and results. For which he Is about as bad as it gets I the whole NFL
Why the going rate for backup QB's isn't the minimum. Chase Daniel made 7 million annually in his last contract. Matt Moore makes close to 6 million annually.
People get so absolutely emotional about backup QBs.
Why the going rate for backup QB's isn't the minimum. Chase Daniel made 7 million annually in his last contract. Matt Moore makes close to 6 million annually.
The Chase Daniel one is a bad one, but I'd take Moore over Geno.
He sucks.
How bad is Smith that NONE OF THE QB Needed teams even contacted him.
Nobody went after Matt Moore last year and he returned to the Phins. He played very well for them when Tannehill went down.
Matt Moore was an 8 year Vet BU QB last year. He's the kind of guy the Giants should have went for. Not a project who thinks he should be starting that you need to teach how to be a pro.
He has the talent of a starter. I think he is a good kid too. Made a few mistakes and the "fake news" capital of the world ruined his reputation. Remember, it was those same "fake news" geniuses who told us Eli could not play, and Coughlin should have been fired in 2005. Literally, they know nothing. Nothing. The good part is anyone with a brain in their head now assumes everything they say is a lie until proven truthful. Great job by Jerry Reese.
He sucks.
How bad is Smith that NONE OF THE QB Needed teams even contacted him.
Nobody went after Matt Moore last year and he returned to the Phins. He played very well for them when Tannehill went down.
Matt Moore was an 8 year Vet BU QB last year. He's the kind of guy the Giants should have went for. Not a project who thinks he should be starting that you need to teach how to be a pro.
Yeah. Matt Moore over redoing JPP. GENIUS. This place is amazing
Starting Experience....CHECK
Mobile Scout Team QB...CHECK
Cheap Backup QB........CHECK
What exactly do people not like about this signing?
I'm with you. I love this signing. Josh Johnson was our backup last year. Hasn't thrown a pass in about 5 years. Didn't hear much complaining (me included). But I love this signing. If it doesn't work out he's gone. But I'm hoping it does.
I bet he's better than Josh Johnson and Ryan Nassib.
I'm pretty sure the list of people who meet that requirement is long, but I wouldn't pay most of them anywhere near $2M/yr. Let's hope it's heavily incentive based.
Psst...That isn't a lot of money in today's NFL. It's not 1992.
In his post signing interview he kept saying again and again that playing (er...sitting) for the Giants for a year would give him a chance to learn at get healthy.
board. Seriously, people here supporting him are saying his team sucked, his coaches sucked, his supporting cast sucked, etc. This also doesn't mean he is any good. I would have preferred a backup who at least has had success somewhere, Geno hasn't. Also, regardless of your reasons for why, he did suck with the Jets. It is pure speculation to say he is an NFL QB. At best, and I mean if he exceeds all hope, he could be Charlie Batch.
In his post signing interview he kept saying again and again that playing (er...sitting) for the Giants for a year would give him a chance to learn at get healthy.
I hope he's right.
Well it's not like the jets would know what to do as far as trying to work with QBs.
It's hard being objective here. Geno has been my favorite QB to kill for a few years now. I'd defend mark Sanchez over Smith.
It would be hilarious if the Giants got this guy to play.
j/k ;)
Not just you, there's Smith, his agent, his family and friends...
Either one is ridiculous. Kerry Collins led a team to the NFCCG in his 2nd season; neither Manziel not Geno could even hold down a starting job for bad teams for an entire year. Kerry's issues were personal demons more than ability. Once he got his life straightened out, he was a good NFL QB.
I'm pretty sure the list of people who meet that requirement is long, but I wouldn't pay most of them anywhere near $2M/yr. Let's hope it's heavily incentive based.
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Not just you, there's Smith, his agent, his family and friends...
Lol, cute.
I like this move. I guess if a QB isn't a Pro Bowler in his first three years, he's a scrub.
Maybe not. Giants will be able to monitor his progress in practice, and determine if they want to bring him back, maybe with a longer term deal. There is no downside for the Giants, unless Geno is even more of a locker room cancer than many fear.
Kid has a lot more talent than Nassib.
Im. Not sure why he mentally imploded so
Badly but the Jets just seem
Such as it show. Who knows but let's hope he takes as many meaningful snaps as Nassib did.
. Giants don't have the cash or the interest in signing a 4-7 million dollar back up so
Any angst over
This is silly
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Geno Smith is a much better one than Johnny Manziel.
Either one is ridiculous. Kerry Collins led a team to the NFCCG in his 2nd season; neither Manziel not Geno could even hold down a starting job for bad teams for an entire year. Kerry's issues were personal demons more than ability. Once he got his life straightened out, he was a good NFL QB.
I'm not talking about win-loss records.
Just because he didn't **win as many games** as Kerry Collins doesn't mean that there aren't valid parellels between the two players at this point in their career. Geno Smith certainly has ability. Anyone with an objective mindset can see that. He showed enough promise in his rookie reason for optimism. For whatever reason, the train went off the rails after that. And then he had his jaw broken in 2015. His issues have as much to do with his personal demons as did Kerry Collins. He can salvage his career. If he chooses to. He may never be a hall of fame QB, but neither is Kerry Collins. He was a good QB with a big arm, but he was also very erratic and made a ton of mistakes. You could win with him, but he was never a championship QB. I don't see why Geno cannot close out his career on a similar level, assuming he has the desire.
Big deal? No.
Laughable signing? Don't see why it would be.
Big deal? No.
Laughable signing? Don't see why it would be.
That's kind of how I look at it too.
Some aren't disappointed by anything they do.
He's had some pretty bad to decent starts mixed in. His main issues (maturity and perhaps leadership) are intangibles that, if he's committed, will only grow within this organization.
Josh McCown continues to get opportunity after opportunity to backup and compete for a starting gig and yet he is what? 2-20 in his last 22 starts?
Given what's out there, I like the idea. He's a project that could work out in their favor even if only a couple of starts should Eli ever go down.
No. I think the trivia is that no AA QB had started for G Men yet...
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Some aren't disappointed by anything they do.
Please. Who should they have signed? Who is
The Don Strock or Danny White that's out there? Please
Let all of us know. Want piss away 5-7 million for Hoyer. Want that idiot Kaepernick?
And I've been shifting on Reese for years about his OL
strategy and results. For which he Is about as bad as it gets I the whole NFL
Anyone who is whining about this is clueless.
Big deal? No.
Laughable signing? Don't see why it would be.
I agree he's an upgrade and perfectly fine for a back-up. He can win games and he has a much better supporting cast and support system then he's had before. That Jets team that drafted him was a mess Ryan's last few years.
I guess you are forgetting about Anthony Wright.
And that's about the only positive I can take from this.
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It's one thing to sign good players...it's another to sign good players who are good people. Way to go @Giants ✊🏾
How bad is Smith that NONE OF THE QB Needed teams even contacted him.
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In comment 13400347 FranknWeezer said:
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Some aren't disappointed by anything they do.
Please. Who should they have signed? Who is
The Don Strock or Danny White that's out there? Please
Let all of us know. Want piss away 5-7 million for Hoyer. Want that idiot Kaepernick?
And I've been shifting on Reese for years about his OL
strategy and results. For which he Is about as bad as it gets I the whole NFL
Anyone who is whining about this is clueless.
Great project signing for one whole year.
How bad is Smith that NONE OF THE QB Needed teams even contacted him.
Nobody went after Matt Moore last year and he returned to the Phins. He played very well for them when Tannehill went down.
Why the going rate for backup QB's isn't the minimum. Chase Daniel made 7 million annually in his last contract. Matt Moore makes close to 6 million annually.
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Talk about being generous.
Why the going rate for backup QB's isn't the minimum. Chase Daniel made 7 million annually in his last contract. Matt Moore makes close to 6 million annually.
The Chase Daniel one is a bad one, but I'd take Moore over Geno.
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of the African-American variety?
I guess you are forgetting about Anthony Wright.
Forget Anthony Wright ... or Andre Woodson.
Josh Johnson is currently on the roster right now.
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He sucks.
How bad is Smith that NONE OF THE QB Needed teams even contacted him.
Nobody went after Matt Moore last year and he returned to the Phins. He played very well for them when Tannehill went down.
Matt Moore was an 8 year Vet BU QB last year. He's the kind of guy the Giants should have went for. Not a project who thinks he should be starting that you need to teach how to be a pro.
If a backup's record as a starter was good, he'd be starting.
Excuse me while I don't wring my hands over this...
Mobile Scout Team QB...CHECK
Cheap Backup QB........CHECK
What exactly do people not like about this signing?
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He sucks.
How bad is Smith that NONE OF THE QB Needed teams even contacted him.
Nobody went after Matt Moore last year and he returned to the Phins. He played very well for them when Tannehill went down.
Matt Moore was an 8 year Vet BU QB last year. He's the kind of guy the Giants should have went for. Not a project who thinks he should be starting that you need to teach how to be a pro.
Yeah. Matt Moore over redoing JPP. GENIUS. This place is amazing
Mobile Scout Team QB...CHECK
Cheap Backup QB........CHECK
What exactly do people not like about this signing?
I'm with you. I love this signing. Josh Johnson was our backup last year. Hasn't thrown a pass in about 5 years. Didn't hear much complaining (me included). But I love this signing. If it doesn't work out he's gone. But I'm hoping it does.
Mobile Scout Team QB...CHECK
Cheap Backup QB........CHECK
What exactly do people not like about this signing?
People want a name they would feel confident it, as if Eli going down doesn't end the season.
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I bet he's better than Josh Johnson and Ryan Nassib.
I'm pretty sure the list of people who meet that requirement is long, but I wouldn't pay most of them anywhere near $2M/yr. Let's hope it's heavily incentive based.
Psst...That isn't a lot of money in today's NFL. It's not 1992.
Mobile Scout Team QB...CHECK
Cheap Backup QB........CHECK
What exactly do people not like about this signing?
I agree, I think he's better than the previous backups we had
I hope he's right.
I knew some moron would make a comment like that. He is either an American or he isn't!
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of the African-American variety?
I knew some moron would make a comment like that. He is either an American or he isn't!
lol
love this place...
Someone must have used that joke already.
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of the African-American variety?
I knew some moron would make a comment like that. He is either an American or he isn't!
And he is not the first if it matters.
I hope he's right.
Well it's not like the jets would know what to do as far as trying to work with QBs.