This is really starting to border on the weird now. The only offer we have seen reported from another team is Miami one year 4 million. He hasnt been reported as taking visits anywhere to other teams (there was a Denver rumor I believe but I didnt see a report where he visited)
He and his team expected to be paid more than Snacks which in itself is ridiculous because anyone with eyes can see Snacks is a better player. They REALLY overvalued his market and now according to various BBI and media reports he has a 1-2 year deal for around 7 million ish on the table..
Hankins is 24.. He can take a 1-2 year deal.. improve his stock and STILL be under 27 and get another deal down the line..
The Big Free Agency period is essentially over.. yes there will be some signings here and there.. yes.. Cutler will get a team.. and maybe Peterson..
The Giants have cap room to sign Hankins.. The question is how long do they wait. We know it was the Giants plan in FA to keep the defense together and they should because it was a good defense last year that should only get better. However at what point to they tell him to piss or get off the pot?
I agree, his best bet, is to sign a one year show me deal.....with the talent he was surrounded by last season, he should have shown more, and didn't.....
So the harsh reality of what he is worth in the NFL has set in....sign a one year deal, prepare yourself in the offseason, to have a great season, and then get paid, whether by the Giants or someone else....
At this point, are there better options out there? Unless the Giants take the offer off the table, all things being equal, I see him coming back for the offer currently on the table which seems to be the best one out there.
Now, do we know what is going on in terms of Hankins' side, so who knows.
Such as? ... and I'm not trying to be a dick, I honestly have no clue who is still unsigned at this point.
So the market is drying up. Another reason to be aggressive if there's someone they like even as a stopgap.
So the market is drying up. Another reason to be aggressive if there's someone they like even as a stopgap.
He is the guy I keep looking at. He could fit in as a 3T and I believe he has played a 5T as well. He has good size at 6'5 and long arms to help clog those passing lanes. If he can be a Chris Canty type thats a good fit along the Giants DL.
Who are we missing out on?
- Odrick? I think if healthy he can fill a role but isn't a key signing.
- Pasztor? He would compete for a job but is similar to what we have in Hart/Fluker. Guys who have started, are young enough to get better but have shown their current warts on film (and can only play on the right side).
While I don't think they are waiting, a Hankins signing fills a position. Signing either of the other 2 and you go into the draft still looking to replace them.
It's like paint. It's going to dry when it wants to. We can watch it and talk about it but it still will not dry any quicker.
Ultimatums are overrated. I get and give "last, best, final" offers all the time. Usually meaningless except to signal entry into real end stage negotiations. I recently was party to a settlement where a client insisted on giving an ultimatum at X, and settled a week later for nearly 3X.
Ultimatums are overrated. I get and give "last, best, final" offers all the time. Usually meaningless except to signal entry into real end stage negotiations. I recently was party to a settlement where a client insisted on giving an ultimatum at X, and settled a week later for nearly 3X.
I don't think it would magically expire, but if they have a backup plan and they're concerned they might lose out on them, at some point you have to draw the line in the sand and make a move. Otherwise, you could just as easily end up without Hankins or the other player you had in reserve.
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his outstanding offer can be redeployed in another deal. Until then, what is the point of ultimatums etc. If the Giants set a Friday deadline, and it passes, and they make no further signing, why wouldnt that money be available to Hankins on Monday? Spite?
Ultimatums are overrated. I get and give "last, best, final" offers all the time. Usually meaningless except to signal entry into real end stage negotiations. I recently was party to a settlement where a client insisted on giving an ultimatum at X, and settled a week later for nearly 3X.
I don't think it would magically expire, but if they have a backup plan and they're concerned they might lose out on them, at some point you have to draw the line in the sand and make a move. Otherwise, you could just as easily end up without Hankins or the other player you had in reserve.
And that's my point. They wait until they have an acceptable Plan B, at which point they call JH's agent and say "hey we need an answer now because we're in negotiations with another player, and we cant afford both guys." Until then an ultimatum is kind of empty. Unless you make a real run of it -- if that is how you do business and people know it, they can work.