I look at teams like the Jets , Redskins in football and the Knicks in basketball and it is obvious that the problem is the owners
both are incompetent and do stupid things
my question is
Has any team in any sport every won a championship despite having a truly incompetent owner
I am talking an owner that meddles , makes horrible player and personal decisions , says the wrong things in the press , shoots themselves in the foot if things are going well
Only someone born into immense wealth could get away with that.
Interesting how the building of both Yankees WS championship runs happened while George was suspended from baseball. At least the 2nd time he stayed out of it for the most part when he returned and allowed it to continue. The first time he ruined it.
Which makes you wonder if the NBA stepped in and forced Dolan to stay 150 feet away from the Knicks and MSG for a couple of years, if the stink would come off the organization, or if there's too much of it rotten on the inside for it to cleanse that quickly.
what exactly have the Skins won since he's been owner?
Marge Schott -- Reds (1990 World Series)
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what exactly have the Skins won since he's been owner?
Oops, meant Dan Gilbert of the Cavs
Marge Schott -- Reds (1990 World Series)
Those are great choices.
I've also heard nothing but awful things about Tom Benson (Saints - 2008) and Malcolm Glazer (Bucs - 2001), though i suppose being an asshole doesnt necessarily = incompetent.
his results STUNK when left on his own to do as he wished. Gabe Paul built the first championship teams while GS was banned. He left after the title run because he couldn't take it anymore. GS then drove out Al Rosen for the same reason. They had 3 managers in 1982. The endles Billy crap, trading of prospects (Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps, Willie McGee for Bob Sykes just 2 examples), the bullying, scapegoating of good young players (Bobby Meachem) retooling completely (who can forget the Dave Collins Bronx Burners) every year leading to the collapse from 1989-1992. If not for the Howie Spira (another brilliant example of GSs idiocy) suspension I doubt they ever get out of that tailspin.
Credit where due: he left Gene Michael in charge during the suspension, and seemed to learn from prior experience and left him alone to continue the rebuild when he returned.
Finley was not incompetent. A little wacky for sure, but he built that team from shit and they were STACKED. Only free agency kept them from winning ALOT more.
Lebron joined a team that had 3 #1 picks the year in the span in which he left. If Lebron never left, I can't confidently say he would've had a ring with the teams they were surrounding him with.
Though I'm guessing she does nothing at Invesco Field but drink martinis and let Elway make the decisions.
Beer Fest ?
Marge Schott -- Reds (1990 World Series)
This has been posted before but I love the story of Georgia Frontiere and the stolen Lombardi Trophy from Super Bowl V, especially since Ernie Accorsi and George Young are part of it.
There Are Many Who Believe Georgia Is the Original Trophy Wife - ( New Window )
Though I'm guessing she does nothing at Invesco Field but drink martinis and let Elway make the decisions.
YIKES!!!!
Imagine that. James D owning an NFL team. Well, they couldn't have been that much worse than what the team has been lately, right?
Right?
My first thought, but I don't think the Boss was incompetent. He actually had a pretty good eye for talent, but too often went for the shiniest object out there, whether it was a team need or not.
And for all of the talk about the Yankee dynasty being built while he was suspended (which is true), he did win 4 pennants and 2 championships in the 70's-early 80's.
Damn, I can't believe I just defended George Steinbrenner. I must be mellowing with age.
This franchise was an absolute laughing stock for a long time. Welly wasn't just a sweet old man who sat on a collapsible stool on the sidelines during practice.
It's a good thing the Maras asked Rozelle to step in and settle family business, and we got George Young.
Otherwise we could still be in the dark.
This franchise was an absolute laughing stock for a long time. Welly wasn't just a sweet old man who sat on a collapsible stool on the sidelines during practice.
It's a good thing the Maras asked Rozelle to step in and settle family business, and we got George Young.
Otherwise we could still be in the dark.
decade and a half. And when Well ran just the football side while Jack ran the business, they were quite successful. When Well had to do it all after Jack died is when things got bad.