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pganut : 3/22/2017 1:06 pm
From the network that brings you the marvel that is Pierre McGuire, Rivalry Night on NBCSN.

Rivalry? Sure. Playoff intensity tonight? Leaning towards not. Isles need to start backing up the talk around understanding the task ahead of them to get to the dance. Rangers looking to stay healthy and keep skills reasonably sharp while fairly locked into WC-1. Bit of a more muted feel here today. Regardless, these games always take a life of their own, so we'll probably get some entertaining hockey.

Isles start Thomas Greiss, Blueshirts counter with Raanta (with Lundqvist expected to get 2 of the next 3 on the WC trip). For the Islanders, we see Dougie is paying attention. Seidenberg sits and is replaced by Thomas Hickey. Same forwards. Note, however, the lines at practice show a different configuration: 16-91-12, 27-72-66 (fun!), 29-18-25, and 86-53-15 are reunited. MiLB and I question the need felt to separate Lee from L1, but Ladd has been on fire; his sniper with size role is different (and not in a bad way) than Lee's netfront monolith role, so maybe these rejiggered lines provide the shot we've needed to get back in (successful) attack mode. Isles need at least 4 points out of the next three games in 4 nights (NYR, then B2B in PIT and home against BOS). I think they have to go 9-2 or 8-3-1 at worst to make it.

AV has noted all F and D will be gametime decisions. Lundqvist, Girardi, Klein, Glass, Kampfer, Pirri and Puempel were all on the ice for the NYR morning skate.

Let's Go Islanders

...and Rangers, feel free to take 'er easy if you want. You've worked hard.
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Interesting times on BBI  
Route 9 : 3/22/2017 1:15 pm : link
Anyway, let's go Rangers
Lets Go Rangers  
Rover : 3/22/2017 1:30 pm : link
LGR!
Off game topic  
marbles : 3/22/2017 1:36 pm : link
Here is Crosby's spearing of Ryan O'Reilly. At least we can all agree Crosby is douche.

It's not as if any Islanders or Rangers fan would also double as a Penguins fan, right?
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RE: Off game topic  
Rover : 3/22/2017 1:48 pm : link
In comment 13402749 marbles said:
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Here is Crosby's spearing of Ryan O'Reilly. At least we can all agree Crosby is douche.

It's not as if any Islanders or Rangers fan would also double as a Penguins fan, right? Link - ( New Window )

Oh please, why not show that cheapshot Evander Kane did to Crosby at the end of the game?

Why not show the goal of the year by Crosby?

Why not talk about who the poster was B outed last night?
RE: RE: Off game topic  
YAJ2112 : 3/22/2017 1:49 pm : link
In comment 13402770 Rover said:
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In comment 13402749 marbles said:


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Here is Crosby's spearing of Ryan O'Reilly. At least we can all agree Crosby is douche.

It's not as if any Islanders or Rangers fan would also double as a Penguins fan, right? Link - ( New Window )


Oh please, why not show that cheapshot Evander Kane did to Crosby at the end of the game?

Why not show the goal of the year by Crosby?

Why not talk about who the poster was B outed last night?


Why not suck less?
RE: RE: Off game topic  
Davisian : 3/22/2017 1:51 pm : link
In comment 13402770 Rover said:
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In comment 13402749 marbles said:


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Here is Crosby's spearing of Ryan O'Reilly. At least we can all agree Crosby is douche.

It's not as if any Islanders or Rangers fan would also double as a Penguins fan, right? Link - ( New Window )


Oh please, why not show that cheapshot Evander Kane did to Crosby at the end of the game?

Why not show the goal of the year by Crosby?

Why not talk about who the poster was B outed last night?



Crosby is a nut tapping cunt and you suck. hard.

RE: RE: Off game topic  
MetsAreBack : 3/22/2017 1:54 pm : link
In comment 13402770 Rover said:
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Oh please, why not show that cheapshot Evander Kane did to Crosby at the end of the game?

Why not show the goal of the year by Crosby?

Why not talk about who the poster was B outed last night?



What a vicious cock-sucker you are, trying to get others banned. Reading between the tea leaves, can't say I'm surprised you are friends with the pedophile though.
Must win game for  
Metnut : 3/22/2017 2:03 pm : link
the Isles. They got some bigtime help on the scoreboard last night and need to follow up with a win tonight with @Pit coming on Friday. Meaningless game for NYR but even on the second end of a back-to-back I'm sure they are sick of losing to the Islanders and would love to put a big blow into our playoff hopes.

I'm happy Cappy is sitting Seidenburg, but wish it was for Pulock and not Hickey. Isles were playing great over an extended period of time until the schedule wore them down. They've had 3 nights off in a row. Time to see whether they can rally for a bigtime stretch run. LGI.
I knew Cappy had something to do with the recent skid  
pganut : 3/22/2017 2:07 pm : link
Crafty bastard in his Weight costume! ;-)
Would love a Clutterbuck goal  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/22/2017 2:11 pm : link
That way half of his goals this year will be against the Rangers.

Not much to be said other than it's a must win, and also go Jackets.
RE: I knew Cappy had something to do with the recent skid  
Metnut : 3/22/2017 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13402794 pganut said:
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Crafty bastard in his Weight costume! ;-)


LOL. Whoops!
Fastforward to 1:15  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/22/2017 2:29 pm : link
For some Tavares chat.
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Love the 2nd line  
JayBinQueens : 3/22/2017 2:37 pm : link
tonight.

Let Lee park himself in front while the Beau & Ho-Sang create
RE: RE: RE: Off game topic  
Rover : 3/22/2017 2:48 pm : link
In comment 13402776 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 13402770 Rover said:


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Oh please, why not show that cheapshot Evander Kane did to Crosby at the end of the game?

Why not show the goal of the year by Crosby?

Why not talk about who the poster was B outed last night?




What a vicious cock-sucker you are, trying to get others banned. Reading between the tea leaves, can't say I'm surprised you are friends with the pedophile though.

Oh shut up.
I'm not friends with him, I don't even know who the person is, I asked B for an email.
Let's keep this one to hockey and support the mods' wishes  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/22/2017 2:54 pm : link
When donation time comes around I'll happily remind everyone of what the moderators chose to do last night (and then like the cowards they are protecting such filth, put a lock on the thread so no one could comment/object). I know I get a hard time for it, but if you agree that what they did last night is unacceptable, then isn't that when and how it should be addressed? If they want to lose BBI money to protect him, then that's on them.

Rover, not sure why you're posting on this thread. It never ends well for you.
I think the Rangers win this game tonight.  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/22/2017 2:58 pm : link
Don't really have an objective reason. I just think with them being 0-4-2 in their last 6 at the Garden, this is exactly the type of game to reverse that mojo. They'll be a ton of energy in the building as there always is for these games, yet at the same time there'll be no added pressure with the Rangers' playoff positioning set in stone.

Then on the Isles side, Greiss can't stop a beachball these days and the forwards act like they're wearing blindfolds in the defensive zone. The one thing the Isles do well is play sound offensive, 5-on-5 hockey. When you look at how bad the Islander power play is, but then see them top 10 in scoring, it isn't hard to figure out they do play a good offensive game at even strength. It will be absolutely crucial they cash in on those opportunities.

Rangers win 4-3.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Off game topic  
YAJ2112 : 3/22/2017 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13402864 Rover said:
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In comment 13402776 MetsAreBack said:


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In comment 13402770 Rover said:


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Oh please, why not show that cheapshot Evander Kane did to Crosby at the end of the game?

Why not show the goal of the year by Crosby?

Why not talk about who the poster was B outed last night?




What a vicious cock-sucker you are, trying to get others banned. Reading between the tea leaves, can't say I'm surprised you are friends with the pedophile though.


Oh shut up.
I'm not friends with him, I don't even know who the person is, I asked B for an email.


It's good that you don't even have to know who it is to know that you aren't friends with them.
I can't keep the silence anymore  
Greg from LI : 3/22/2017 3:01 pm : link
It was Mario Lemieux.
The final scores of last night's games were kind to the Isles  
marbles : 3/22/2017 3:02 pm : link
They are rested, the Rangers are playing consecutive games, and the Rangers have nothing riding on these games.

The Isles have no excuses to come out flat. Two points tonight are a must. I am also looking forward to watching the newly constructed Beauvillier, Ho-Sang, Lee combination.

LGI
RE: Let's keep this one to hockey and support the mods' wishes  
CaptSehorn : 3/22/2017 3:05 pm : link
In comment 13402879 Mike in Long Beach said:
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When donation time comes around I'll happily remind everyone of what the moderators chose to do last night (and then like the cowards they are protecting such filth, put a lock on the thread so no one could comment/object). I know I get a hard time for it, but if you agree that what they did last night is unacceptable, then isn't that when and how it should be addressed? If they want to lose BBI money to protect him, then that's on them.


I agree with this sentiment 100%. Just know that this regime will silence and expunge any attempt to show them in a bad light. Literally any "BBi meta" style thread is deleted these days. I can't imagine they will happily allow people to mess with their $$
RE: The final scores of last night's games were kind to the Isles  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/22/2017 3:08 pm : link
In comment 13402899 marbles said:
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They are rested, the Rangers are playing consecutive games, and the Rangers have nothing riding on these games.

The Isles have no excuses to come out flat. Two points tonight are a must. I am also looking forward to watching the newly constructed Beauvillier, Ho-Sang, Lee combination.

LGI


People really need to be careful what they wish for with the Beauvillier - Ho-Sang situation. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure what we're all happy about. Both have made some really bad/youthful turnovers lately. And not that anyone's specifically said it, but it's almost as if there's a false narrative floating that there's some sort of chemistry they'd be able to repurpose from the AHL/OHL/QMJHL. To the best of my knowledge they had never played with each other, preseason aside, until Ho-Sang was called up earlier this month.

I'm really afraid we're going of losing what Anders brings to the table with them skating around looking for space that isn't there at this level.
Can someone please post the Islander  
Metnut : 3/22/2017 3:13 pm : link
lines? I didn't realize there was a shakeup.
RE: Can someone please post the Islander  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/22/2017 3:15 pm : link
In comment 13402927 Metnut said:
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lines? I didn't realize there was a shakeup.


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Weight: Bailey is ill. Should be fine for tomorrow. Lines will stay same as yesterday: 16-91-12, 27-72-66, 29-18-25, 86-53-15.
RE: RE: The final scores of last night's games were kind to the Isles  
marbles : 3/22/2017 3:15 pm : link
In comment 13402915 Mike in Long Beach said:
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In comment 13402899 marbles said:


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They are rested, the Rangers are playing consecutive games, and the Rangers have nothing riding on these games.

The Isles have no excuses to come out flat. Two points tonight are a must. I am also looking forward to watching the newly constructed Beauvillier, Ho-Sang, Lee combination.

LGI



People really need to be careful what they wish for with the Beauvillier - Ho-Sang situation. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure what we're all happy about. Both have made some really bad/youthful turnovers lately. And not that anyone's specifically said it, but it's almost as if there's a false narrative floating that there's some sort of chemistry they'd be able to repurpose from the AHL/OHL/QMJHL. To the best of my knowledge they had never played with each other, preseason aside, until Ho-Sang was called up earlier this month.

I'm really afraid we're going of losing what Anders brings to the table with them skating around looking for space that isn't there at this level.


If there isn't any chemistry, Weight can always shuffle the lines during the game.

Lee's game shouldn't be affected, since he can still Park himself in front of the net and collect rebounds. The more Ho-Sang has played, the more he has shown that he isn't afraid to shoot.
Couldn't there be legal implications  
Dave M : 3/22/2017 3:18 pm : link
For BBI if they allow stuff like that to happen? Wouldn't it be worse if BBI money was given to the scumbag if he sued? I'm no lawyer but maybe some of the guys on bbi who are could clarify. That being said there is more than one way to skin a cat.

I know every game here on out is pretty much a must win but I'd they can't get up for this game they may be finished for this season. A Halak sighting would've been nice tonight.
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Mike in Long Beach : 3/22/2017 3:19 pm : link
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If there isn't any chemistry, Weight can always shuffle the lines during the game.


This isn't when I wanted to start experimenting.

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Lee's game shouldn't be affected, since he can still Park himself in front of the net and collect rebounds. The more Ho-Sang has played, the more he has shown that he isn't afraid to shoot.


I disagree on Lee. With Tavares he was able to bully his way to the front because he often got to battle 1-on-1 while JT drew defenders. With a line of two 20-year-olds with 11 career goals between them, they'll build a wall in front of the crease that even Lee would have a very hard time getting by. He's much, much more valuable when he's not the focal point of a unit.
I text with a few guys on here  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/22/2017 3:20 pm : link
so sorry to be reiterating all that stuff. I'm just skeptical on these lines. Ladd was doing just fine without Tavares in the last 2 months. I don't despise what's happening but I worry about it. I also know next to nothing about anything, hockey included, so there's hope.
Mike  
pganut : 3/22/2017 3:21 pm : link
Remains to be seen what cohesiveness is or isn't there with the L2 restructure (which, IMO, I believe is temporary), but for once, we have a situation where we get a glimpse of what we've all clamored for at one time or another, the fact that they're letting kids play and it seems that there's no desire to squelch creativity. It wasn't long ago we decried the dump/chase/grind Capuano system that robbed the team of that creativity and speed. Islanders have been playing more high event hockey - at both ends - and that creates scenarios where our goaltender is left in a bad position. And you're right, the forwards' d-zone play has been shaky, to be expected when they try to leave the zone early to establish numbers. Silly to say that with 11 games left since it should have been done a while ago, but tighten that responsibility up a bit, and for pete's sake, improve on the special teams, and the keel stops wobbling as much.
RE: RE: Let's keep this one to hockey and support the mods' wishes  
YAJ2112 : 3/22/2017 3:21 pm : link
In comment 13402907 CaptSehorn said:
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In comment 13402879 Mike in Long Beach said:


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When donation time comes around I'll happily remind everyone of what the moderators chose to do last night (and then like the cowards they are protecting such filth, put a lock on the thread so no one could comment/object). I know I get a hard time for it, but if you agree that what they did last night is unacceptable, then isn't that when and how it should be addressed? If they want to lose BBI money to protect him, then that's on them.




I agree with this sentiment 100%. Just know that this regime will silence and expunge any attempt to show them in a bad light. Literally any "BBi meta" style thread is deleted these days. I can't imagine they will happily allow people to mess with their $$


Damn, someone just took out Sehorn on a kick return!
RE: Couldn't there be legal implications  
Greg from LI : 3/22/2017 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13402940 Dave M said:
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For BBI if they allow stuff like that to happen? Wouldn't it be worse if BBI money was given to the scumbag if he sued? I'm no lawyer but maybe some of the guys on bbi who are could clarify. That being said there is more than one way to skin a cat.


In this case, we're talking about links to published news stories. I'm no attorney but I don't see how that could be considered libel.
Mike iLB  
marbles : 3/22/2017 3:29 pm : link
The experimenting started with the Ho-Sang call-up, and gradually giving him greater responsibilities. Ho-Sang is now on the PP and teaming up with Tavares in OT. The team needs a jump-start, and hoping the new lines do that.

We will agree to disagree here.
RE: RE: Couldn't there be legal implications  
Mike in NY : 3/22/2017 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13402949 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13402940 Dave M said:


Quote:


For BBI if they allow stuff like that to happen? Wouldn't it be worse if BBI money was given to the scumbag if he sued? I'm no lawyer but maybe some of the guys on bbi who are could clarify. That being said there is more than one way to skin a cat.



In this case, we're talking about links to published news stories. I'm no attorney but I don't see how that could be considered libel.


If those newspaper reports were false. Also, no guarantee it is the same person. Could have been someone with the same name. Accusing someone of that sort of behavior in some states is defamation per se regardless of whether it is a public figure or not.
RE: RE: RE: Couldn't there be legal implications  
MetsAreBack : 3/22/2017 3:44 pm : link
In comment 13402983 Mike in NY said:
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If those newspaper reports were false. Also, no guarantee it is the same person. Could have been someone with the same name. Accusing someone of that sort of behavior in some states is defamation per se regardless of whether it is a public figure or not.



i have a reaction to this, but lets please discuss somewhere else and not ruin this hockey thread. Thanks.
Hudson asked me for an email?  
B in ALB : 3/22/2017 3:45 pm : link
I'll tell you what. I'll send it right over but you have to hold your breath until it arrives.
The newspaper reports were not false  
Davisian : 3/22/2017 3:49 pm : link
The information is correct and people are being banned for pointing out what a piece of shit the guy is while he just gets muted.

Let's go Rangers...





I love this  
pjcas18 : 3/22/2017 4:04 pm : link
twitter headline:

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Crosby hits guy in dick, scores incredible goal, gets teeth knocked out.


that in a (pun intended) nutshell is sidney crosby, and it was accompanied by a .gif showing all three incidents.

LOL.

No idea why, but I find that to be a classic hockey tweet.

I don't care if every one of you (except Rover) hate the guy, in fact the more you hate him with all the sports hate you can muster the better, he can play on my team any day.

In fact I find it somewhat validating of his awesomeness the more people hate him.

And I'm not one of those fans who root for heels or "edgy" players, I hate the ones even on my teams like when Brandon Prust was a Canadien or Dale Wiese, or even Andrew Shaw (though I think his hate is a little overrated) and Alexei Emelin to an extent, but man Crosby just does things on the ice, good and bad, that are jaw dropping.

I love to watch him play.
Really looking forward to getting excited  
Giants in 07 : 3/22/2017 4:08 pm : link
for a Rangers game sometime in the next month.

This stretch of pointless games has been brutal
Didn't realize  
Fish : 3/22/2017 4:10 pm : link
Cindy had 41 goals. When I saw that I was in awe once again. Damn good player. Would love him on the Isles.
None of us deny that he's a generational talent  
Greg from LI : 3/22/2017 4:12 pm : link
That just makes his shitbag cheap shots that much more disgusting.

He's lucky he plays in the era he's playing in. Someone would have dropped him with a Messier-like flying elbow by now if it were 1985.
Loathing Crosby and his diving, nut tapping ways  
Davisian : 3/22/2017 4:13 pm : link
Doesn't preclude respect for his skills.

RE: Really looking forward to getting excited  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/22/2017 4:14 pm : link
In comment 13403040 Giants in 07 said:
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for a Rangers game sometime in the next month.

This stretch of pointless games has been brutal


it really is so bizarre. Not just because the games have been completely meaningless, even in terms of seeding... but the bitch is even if you did go on a run to improve your positioning, you almost would be rooting against it anyway.

Very strange.
RE: Loathing Crosby and his diving, nut tapping ways  
Fish : 3/22/2017 4:20 pm : link
In comment 13403051 Davisian said:
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Doesn't preclude respect for his skills.


shut up
RE: None of us deny that he's a generational talent  
pjcas18 : 3/22/2017 4:23 pm : link
In comment 13403049 Greg from LI said:
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That just makes his shitbag cheap shots that much more disgusting.

He's lucky he plays in the era he's playing in. Someone would have dropped him with a Messier-like flying elbow by now if it were 1985.


He does get those cheap shots. If you watch him objectively he gets it as bad as he gives it. What's different about Crosby is the superstars before him didn't get involved in the cheap shots to the extent he does.

Part of the reason he plays this way, IMO, is because the era is different and he doesn't have a personal protector like Gretzky or some of the more finesse players.

I found the nut tap kind of "funny" because I'd get so pissed off whenever anyone ever did that to me (usually (and rarely) defenseman in front of their net would give a subtle nut jab if you weren't moving out of in front of the goalie), my gloves would be off and I'd be throwing hay makers (after the initial jolt of pain wore off) but ROR did nothing. I was shocked, I expected a line brawl.

Which tells me ROR must have done something first.

RE: RE: Loathing Crosby and his diving, nut tapping ways  
Davisian : 3/22/2017 4:23 pm : link
In comment 13403067 Fish said:
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In comment 13403051 Davisian said:


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Doesn't preclude respect for his skills.




shut up



Heh. 4:20

Just so I understand what's happening  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/22/2017 4:26 pm : link
Are these MSG gals going to make their own thread at any point, or are they so disinterested that they're gonna take these nights off until it's time for Carey Price to knock them out in 6?
Either way it's fine  
Mike in Long Beach : 3/22/2017 4:27 pm : link
Their owner is gonna be footing the bill for our new digs anyway. I suppose it'd be unneighborly to send them off to fend for themselves tonight.
Some of the previous generation superstars did  
Greg from LI : 3/22/2017 4:29 pm : link
His buddy Pepe certainly did. Maybe not as frequently as Sydnee, but Lemieux did that same slash to the ball from behind more than a few times.
RE: Really looking forward to getting excited  
gmen9892 : 3/22/2017 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13403040 Giants in 07 said:
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for a Rangers game sometime in the next month.

This stretch of pointless games has been brutal


+1

I have been tuning in and out of games periodically over the last 2 weeks, but its been really hard to get up for them. The only thing Im interested in is getting Hank back and into a groove before the playoffs start and staying 100% healthy.
Carey  
pjcas18 : 3/22/2017 4:31 pm : link
Price suffered a minor injury.

Last time he had a minor injury he missed almost all of 2015-2016.

the timing couldn't be better /sarcasm
I'm gonna catch you guys later in the game  
pganut : 3/22/2017 4:34 pm : link
Family starting to arrive for dinner...it's my triplets' 12th birthday today. Man, time flies.

Y'all behave, hear?
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