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NFT: New York Islanders at New York Rangers, 8pm Game Thread

pganut : 3/22/2017 1:06 pm
From the network that brings you the marvel that is Pierre McGuire, Rivalry Night on NBCSN.

Rivalry? Sure. Playoff intensity tonight? Leaning towards not. Isles need to start backing up the talk around understanding the task ahead of them to get to the dance. Rangers looking to stay healthy and keep skills reasonably sharp while fairly locked into WC-1. Bit of a more muted feel here today. Regardless, these games always take a life of their own, so we'll probably get some entertaining hockey.

Isles start Thomas Greiss, Blueshirts counter with Raanta (with Lundqvist expected to get 2 of the next 3 on the WC trip). For the Islanders, we see Dougie is paying attention. Seidenberg sits and is replaced by Thomas Hickey. Same forwards. Note, however, the lines at practice show a different configuration: 16-91-12, 27-72-66 (fun!), 29-18-25, and 86-53-15 are reunited. MiLB and I question the need felt to separate Lee from L1, but Ladd has been on fire; his sniper with size role is different (and not in a bad way) than Lee's netfront monolith role, so maybe these rejiggered lines provide the shot we've needed to get back in (successful) attack mode. Isles need at least 4 points out of the next three games in 4 nights (NYR, then B2B in PIT and home against BOS). I think they have to go 9-2 or 8-3-1 at worst to make it.

AV has noted all F and D will be gametime decisions. Lundqvist, Girardi, Klein, Glass, Kampfer, Pirri and Puempel were all on the ice for the NYR morning skate.

Let's Go Islanders

...and Rangers, feel free to take 'er easy if you want. You've worked hard.
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I'm sorry for your loss, 12th.  
BrettNYG10 : 3/23/2017 10:28 am : link
Congrats on the win, guys.
Thanks Brett  
The 12th Man : 3/23/2017 10:32 am : link
Great woman, world is a much better place because she was in it.
My condolences 12  
timintey : 3/23/2017 10:39 am : link
Sorry for your loss
RE: Had a death in the family so was no able to watch the game last night  
pganut : 3/23/2017 10:42 am : link
In comment 13403699 The 12th Man said:
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Watched most of it this morning seemed like a fairly even game. Had some puck luck on the 2nd goal. Both teams missed a lot of shots. Overall right now we own this team but they are solidly in the playoffs and we are not. I would trade spots in a second.

Ho-Sang is going to be very special. Every time he steps on the ice you are expecting something good to happen. It is all in front of the Islanders right now. Play Bruins on Sat. and we have a game in hand. They have not really played a start to finish solid game in the last 5 or 6 games. They have 10 playoff games to go before the playofffs. All up to them.
Sorry to hear, RH. My condolences to you and your family.
RE: My condolences 12  
The 12th Man : 3/23/2017 10:45 am : link
In comment 13403753 timintey said:
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Sorry for your loss


Thank you I was in Glen Cove with a lot of nervous Islander fans. Glad they were able to pull out the victory.
RE: RE: Had a death in the family so was no able to watch the game last night  
The 12th Man : 3/23/2017 10:46 am : link
In comment 13403762 pganut said:
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In comment 13403699 The 12th Man said:


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Watched most of it this morning seemed like a fairly even game. Had some puck luck on the 2nd goal. Both teams missed a lot of shots. Overall right now we own this team but they are solidly in the playoffs and we are not. I would trade spots in a second.

Ho-Sang is going to be very special. Every time he steps on the ice you are expecting something good to happen. It is all in front of the Islanders right now. Play Bruins on Sat. and we have a game in hand. They have not really played a start to finish solid game in the last 5 or 6 games. They have 10 playoff games to go before the playofffs. All up to them.

Sorry to hear, RH. My condolences to you and your family.


Thank you.
RE: Had a death in the family so was no able to watch the game last night  
Patrick : 3/23/2017 10:47 am : link
In comment 13403699 The 12th Man said:
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Watched most of it this morning seemed like a fairly even game. Had some puck luck on the 2nd goal. Both teams missed a lot of shots. Overall right now we own this team but they are solidly in the playoffs and we are not. I would trade spots in a second.

Ho-Sang is going to be very special. Every time he steps on the ice you are expecting something good to happen. It is all in front of the Islanders right now. Play Bruins on Sat. and we have a game in hand. They have not really played a start to finish solid game in the last 5 or 6 games. They have 10 playoff games to go before the playofffs. All up to them.


Sorry for your loss 12th.
12th Man...  
arcarsenal : 3/23/2017 10:57 am : link
Sorry for your loss. All the best.
Sorry for your  
Metnut : 3/23/2017 11:02 am : link
loss 12th...
Thank you  
The 12th Man : 3/23/2017 11:04 am : link
Arc, Patrick and Metnut
Sorry  
Fish : 3/23/2017 11:24 am : link
For your loss.
Matching talent vs talent  
Fish : 3/23/2017 11:25 am : link
What makes the rags so much better than the islanders where some of you dorks can't understand how it's possible the rangers can lose to the islanders?
well, let's see  
Greg from LI : 3/23/2017 11:31 am : link
If you eliminate their head-to-head meetings, the records are:

Rangers 44-24-4
Islanders 31-25-12

That clear it up?
RE: Matching talent vs talent  
arcarsenal : 3/23/2017 11:31 am : link
In comment 13403856 Fish said:
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What makes the rags so much better than the islanders where some of you dorks can't understand how it's possible the rangers can lose to the islanders?


Because I think the Rangers are the better team right now but it hasn't seemed to matter the last 2-3 years. Every time we play the Islanders it's the same game.

I don't think Carolina is better than NYI but they've been kicking your asses a lot recently.

It's just a matchup thing I guess. We've had an inexplicably hard time against the Devils too.

But then we'll go on the road and have no problem beating the Wild.
RE: RE: Matching talent vs talent  
MetsAreBack : 3/23/2017 11:57 am : link
In comment 13403863 arcarsenal said:
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But then we'll go on the road and have no problem beating the Wild.



Exactly. And I dont think we've lost IN chicago in 5 years or something either. And we play the Capitals exceptionally well every year, even the past couple of years when they were winning Presidents Trophy winners.

Yet we can't beat the Islanders, Canadiens (with Price) or Penguins. Matchup issues with their speed, i guess.
Yep I think that's the crux of it  
Kyle in NY : 3/23/2017 11:59 am : link
Speed against our defense is a big problem
We play the same schedule  
Fish : 3/23/2017 12:02 pm : link
And yet the rangers are 12 pts better than the islanders. I think Capuano and snow had a lot to do with it but the rosters aren't that lopsided where one team is inferior over the other
Fish  
MetsAreBack : 3/23/2017 12:07 pm : link
true, but you could say that about the entire league. Its a league of parity.

"You are what your record says you are"
RE: We play the same schedule  
bigbluehoya : 3/23/2017 12:22 pm : link
In comment 13403891 Fish said:
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And yet the rangers are 12 pts better than the islanders. I think Capuano and snow had a lot to do with it but the rosters aren't that lopsided where one team is inferior over the other


Exactly. So we'd expect the rangers to be somewhere in the vicinity of .500 in head to head games against the Isles and not like 0-for-30 over 3 seasons.

Get it yet?
Yea I get it  
Fish : 3/23/2017 1:29 pm : link
want to make sure Anak gets it.
Only things the Islanders have going for them is  
BrettNYG10 : 3/23/2017 1:33 pm : link
Ho-Sang and the future Maple Leaf.
Thanks Brett  
Fish : 3/23/2017 1:42 pm : link
Seems like Ho Sang, JT and the rest of the nobodies win often against the Rags. Weird.
RE: Thanks Brett  
MetsAreBack : 3/23/2017 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13404063 Fish said:
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Seems like Ho Sang, JT and the rest of the nobodies win often against the Rags. Weird.



Wasnt this Ho Sang's first career game against NYR? Awesome assist off two skates though. Just like Weight drew it up.
to the collective...  
ColHowPepper : 3/23/2017 3:31 pm : link
- someone above made the comment that it might have gone better last night, might go better down the stretch, with Henrik back. It very well might, or might not; but if the comment was meant as an indictment of Raanta's play, I strongly disagree with the premise. The goals he has given up in this stretch of games since King went down have been, almost to a one, quick centering passes across the crease, or centering to a wing dead middle between the circles, with no d-man checking, and a pretty wide open far side (or Tuesday night, underneath Cindy's nuts job, as AR slid across trying to close up the gap). The movement in front of the net by the Rangers' d has sucked, neither moving the forward out, giving a free line of sight, or being quick enough to check quick forwards in front.

- and on that last point, I love Zib, but wtf, he was caught napping on the game winner.

- Clendening, made clear where I stand with him; unfathomable decisions by AV, and it can only be described as personal, not personnel

- if MAB's comments can be construed as inconsistent, so can the Rangers' play night to night. It's like I don't recognize any consistency game to game. Part of it is the line switching, part of it is lack of focus and will in this stretch of end-of-season schedule wilderness, but it's a really shitty mode in which to be approaching SCP. God forbid AV welcomes DG back to the zoo when he's "ready".

- this kid Beauvillier (sp.?) can really skate

- that was a prime time riff by pj, hilarious and spot on

- 12th Man, I know you are doing her life and memory proud
First time yes  
Fish : 3/23/2017 3:31 pm : link
But he called that goal. Said off skates and in before he passed it so suck it.
The Rangers are going nowhere this year...  
Torrag : 3/23/2017 4:46 pm : link
...the Islanders are worse than the Rangers.

It's a strange dichotomy for me with AV. I like his system. I hate his roster management. Gorton is failing as a GM where it counts, filling the gaps in his coaches armor. Long term I'm losing faith this marriage will produce a Cup.
RE: to the collective...  
MetsAreBack : 3/23/2017 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13404242 ColHowPepper said:
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- if MAB's comments can be construed as inconsistent, so can the Rangers' play night to night.



Wait, wut ? LOL. Probably. AV frustrates me. Good coach, can't argue with this year's overall results to date, but lousy with personnel decisions and i dont have confidence he's going to put the best lineup forward come playoff time.
RE: The Rangers are going nowhere this year...  
bigbluehoya : 3/23/2017 5:57 pm : link
In comment 13404355 Torrag said:
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...the Islanders are worse than the Rangers.

It's a strange dichotomy for me with AV. I like his system. I hate his roster management. Gorton is failing as a GM where it counts, filling the gaps in his coaches armor. Long term I'm losing faith this marriage will produce a Cup.


I think this is well said. About as succinctly as one can put it.
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