"In the coming days, the league will roll out its plans for not only revamping the commercial structure within TV broadcasts, but also tweaking in-game timing, replay reviews and more — the product of experimentation and research the NFL took directly to fans before last season to find out what they liked and disliked, both in the stadium and on the couch."
Beginning with the upcoming season, there will be subtle changes to the timing of the game itself, including standardizing the start of the clock after a player goes out of bounds and the duration of halftime. A play clock will be instituted after extra points (and perhaps after touchdowns, though that’s still under discussion). A vote is expected at the league meetings next week on a centralized replay system in which referees review plays on tablets, rather than sideline monitors, and provide input to officiating headquarters in New York, where the final call would be made.
There will be changes to TV broadcasts, including less frequent, but slightly longer commercial breaks — a standard pattern of four per quarter (rather than five, six, five and five), each extended from 1:50 to 2:20. (The NFL’s research shows fans notice fewer breaks, not how long they are, Goodell said.) Networks will be allowed to break during replay reviews. At times, a double box allowing viewers to see inside the stadium while an ad plays, or a sponsored break featuring one brand, could replace standard commercials. Some in-game promotion for NFL and partner initiatives will be replaced by more analysis, highlights and other content.
“We have seen commercialization maybe creep into the game in areas that we don’t think is appropriate,” Goodell said, “and we’re going to work with our network partners to try to pull that back, to make sure that we can create that compelling experience for our fans.”
Other changes — including a potential vote to eliminate coaches challenges after or late into a commercial break (another issue Goodell said frustrates him) and an actual reduction of ads and promotions — remain under consideration as well.
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AS for international games 2 per year 1 in London 1 in Mexico or Canada
I sure hope this came up in his research. I can't imagine you and I are the only two astute fans who have noticed this.
I don't mind international games. I despise European games. Playing in Canada or Mexico is fine.
And it's way past time to scrap Thursday night games.
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specifically sunday morning games. I would MUCH rather that than the crappy TNF games that we see.
I don't mind international games. I despise European games. Playing in Canada or Mexico is fine.
And it's way past time to scrap Thursday night games.
I just like the sunday morning games. Sunday mornings suck waiting until 1:00 for the games. I want no part of watching any of these pre-game shows. Nothing like a morning game to bring you to the 1:00 games.
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specifically sunday morning games. I would MUCH rather that than the crappy TNF games that we see.
I don't mind international games. I despise European games. Playing in Canada or Mexico is fine.
And it's way past time to scrap Thursday night games.
What's wrong with the European games? Every single London game sells out almost instantly, and as the prior poster mentioned it's pretty enjoyable watching football in the morning over breakfast, especially when, like me and many others, you have kids and are often out on Sunday afternoons for various sports/events.
Kick off
Commercials
Cycle that really bogs down the feel of the game
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specifically sunday morning games. I would MUCH rather that than the crappy TNF games that we see.
I don't mind international games. I despise European games. Playing in Canada or Mexico is fine.
And it's way past time to scrap Thursday night games.
What's wrong with the European games? Every single London game sells out almost instantly, and as the prior poster mentioned it's pretty enjoyable watching football in the morning over breakfast, especially when, like me and many others, you have kids and are often out on Sunday afternoons for various sports/events.
The London games are moving back to 1:00 ET, no more morning games.
5 commercials at 1:50 per clip = 9 minutes, 10 seconds.
4 commercials at 2:20 per clip = 9 minutes, 20 seconds.
Obviously a small difference but they can stop pretending they are lessening the commercials. Yes I read about their research. But how about actually reducing the time that commercials play in a game?
I likely fewer, but longer breaks. Since I'm fast forwarding through the commercials anyway, let times I'll have to do that.
Agreed. I have yet to watch a Giant game that was too long (even in the '70's)
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Especially longer Giants games. It's my one break from life each week and I would like to extend that break as long as possible!
Agreed. I have yet to watch a Giant game that was too long (even in the '70's)
I'm with you guys
There is nothing inherently wrong with TNF. But the teams dont have enough time to prepare for the game, which does lead to some lousy games. Also the notion that every team needs to appear once on it sucks too. Finally, they are always division games, i guess to minimize travel. But division games, which are the most important games a team plays during its season, shouldnt be played on such quick turnaround times.
Obvious solution here is to add a 2nd bye week for teams (why wouldnt the players want this? They can reduce spring or training camp by a week for veteran players as an offset) - and give all teams on TNF the bye the week prior. Eliminate rule that every team needs to play TNF as well as that all games are division rivalry games.
wut?
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keep the clock running after incomplete passes outside of the final 2 minutes of the half.. Give time to refs to get the ball but then start the clock.. otherwise it takes like 3 minutes to run three plays and only 18 seconds have ticked off the clock.. Its unfair to the team which has the lead but cant run the clock out..
wut?
You know how the clock stops after every incomplete pass.. don't stop it.. just give reasonable time for the referee to get the ball and then start the clock.. so the game moves faster...
I am warming up to Batman's method of DVR'ing the damn game.
I will co-sign that statement.
I dont understand why fans complain about the length of the game. We wait all week long for the Giants game. Why hope that it ends quickly?
Now, if you want to reduce the time involved for the non-football activities (commercials, replay, etc) then fine. However, if anyone thinks the NFL is going to reduce the commercial time and lose revenue you are smoking something.
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after a TD and a TV timeout, don't do a kickoff (usually a touchback) and then another friggin commercial break. Essentially whatever excitement or momentum occurred from a score has been killed by what amounts to really 5+ minutes of nothing.
I sure hope this came up in his research. I can't imagine you and I are the only two astute fans who have noticed this.
Try sitting in the freezing cold at the stadium and go through the TD/Pat timeout Kickoff TV Timeout....
I dont understand why fans complain about the length of the game. We wait all week long for the Giants game. Why hope that it ends quickly?
Now, if you want to reduce the time involved for the non-football activities (commercials, replay, etc) then fine. However, if anyone thinks the NFL is going to reduce the commercial time and lose revenue you are smoking something.
Are more plays really more fun? A lot of the times games are a bore because they have so many plays.. like is a 14-7 baseball game more fun than a 3-1 game just because there are more pitches in the 14-7 game? I'd rather have more meaningful plays and not 50 plays in the fourth quarter when the game was a blowout most... More plays also increase injuries..
Me too. Giants are on at 1 I'll start watching about 2. Allows me to Fast fwd thru all the commercials and other bullshit which makes for a very nice football experience from my comfy couch.
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in the end we the fans will have less football to watch. They will let time run in a few instances vs having the clock stop. Fewer plays, less football, less fun.
I dont understand why fans complain about the length of the game. We wait all week long for the Giants game. Why hope that it ends quickly?
Now, if you want to reduce the time involved for the non-football activities (commercials, replay, etc) then fine. However, if anyone thinks the NFL is going to reduce the commercial time and lose revenue you are smoking something.
Are more plays really more fun? A lot of the times games are a bore because they have so many plays.. like is a 14-7 baseball game more fun than a 3-1 game just because there are more pitches in the 14-7 game? I'd rather have more meaningful plays and not 50 plays in the fourth quarter when the game was a blowout most... More plays also increase injuries..
Does not sound like you are a football fan. Yes, more plays are more fun. If you don't think so, then you do not truly love the game. Plays are the game. so... WTF are you talking about?
Seat License + ticket cost + parking cost + transportation cost + refreshment cost.
Remember how we hated the TV blackouts?
Does not sound like you are a football fan. Yes, more plays are more fun. If you don't think so, then you do not truly love the game. Plays are the game. so... WTF are you talking about?
Yup I got that same impression. Same guy thinks a clock should stop on an imcomplete pass (I'm guessing because giants haven't run the ball well in 5 years). Yards per attempt already multiples higher than yards per (adjust for holding penalties) carry ... This guy wants to skew the equation more towards arena football
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Does not sound like you are a football fan. Yes, more plays are more fun. If you don't think so, then you do not truly love the game. Plays are the game. so... WTF are you talking about?
Yup I got that same impression. Same guy thinks a clock should stop on an imcomplete pass (I'm guessing because giants haven't run the ball well in 5 years). Yards per attempt already multiples higher than yards per (adjust for holding penalties) carry ... This guy wants to skew the equation more towards arena football
The bottom line here is this...
We are on this freaking web site more hours per year than hours of annual game time that the Giants play. We only have 16 days out of 365 where we get to watch the Giants play. Why would anyone wish that the game was shorter? 10 minutes after the game is over I am already going through withdrawal and wishing the week away to get to next Sunday.
Cut the play clock to 25 seconds betweven whistle to whistle. Hire a few more guys to get the sticks and balls set.
If there was actually action between the commercials no one would care.
It’s not that fans want anything rushed.
With football, fans are fed up with the bombardment of advertisements during the TV experience. The commercials are more than just a pause, they have become an actual annoying distraction.
In the case of baseball, it’s that fans have lost interest between innings. MLB studied this to find out how they can better maintain fans interest throughout a TV broadcast. They made tweaks like ditching the intentional walk, but I don’t think they’ve gone far enough.
MLB could have decreased the amount of time of a commercial breaks (currently 2:05 minutes, 17 times a game). They loath to do this because it directly affects their cash flow.
5 commercials at 1:50 per clip = 9 minutes, 10 seconds.
4 commercials at 2:20 per clip = 9 minutes, 20 seconds.
Obviously a small difference but they can stop pretending they are lessening the commercials. Yes I read about their research. But how about actually reducing the time that commercials play in a game?
One break would be dropping from 6 (not 5) to 4, though. So if the 5-6-5-5 to 4-4-4-4 thing is true for the standard breaks, then it'll be a total of:
21 commercial breaks at 1:50 each = 38 minutes, 30 seconds.
16 commercial breaks at 2:20 each = 37 minutes, 20 seconds.
That's just awesome.
Thanks for the different perspective.
In the case of baseball, it’s that fans have lost interest between innings.
What do you mean "between innings" ? I've lost considerable interest, especially during playoff games, during innings with all the mound visits, pickoff plays, batters adjusting gloves, one batter relief appearances, etc.
But the three key differences b/w football and baseball which leave me far less bothered on the former:
1. Number of games. One has 10x more than the other
2. Weekend vs weeknight. Spending 3 hours on a sunday is far less intrusive than weeknights, especially if I'm at a game and have to commute home after and get up 6am the next morning
3. Football is still 30 minutes less than your average baseball game, and that split is worse come playoff time (Nats/Dodgers game 5 took 4 hours, 3 minutes to play 9 innings last Fall)
So to me, at least right now, no comparison between the two sports.
Someone also mentioned above wanting more plays/game action during the telecast.. I dunno... these players put their bodies probably too much on the line as is.
I really think we need to bring back the 2nd bye week.