I was afraid of him being very rusty after having last year off due to injured shoulder. He looks real good.
Final 2 rotation spots still in question. But it looks like Warren will make the roster based on his ability to start or pitch out of the pen.
Also Yanks have some interest in trading for SS Ahmed from Arizona to fill in for Didi while he is out and then to be a bench player.
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Curious about the lineup Girardi will use...he's talked of splitting up Gardy and Ells at the top...so who hits second? Sanchez? Feel like we'd want more guys who can get on base in front of him, but we don't really have a lot of high OBP guys anymore
Holliday
Sanchez
Bird
Judge
Didi
Castro
Headley
Gardner
Why? .260/.330/.375 injury prone outfielders in their mid 30s who can't steal anymore don't grow on trees you know. $21 million per year for the next 4 years is a bargain...
/sarcasm off
The worst part of both deals is they have each had a grand total of one season in their careers worthy of that kind of money, both about 6 years ago when they were 27 or 28 - outside of that they've been consistently average. Please let those be the last of these awful contracts.
round dingers?
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I wish he were talking about exiling Ellsbury to St. Helena.
Why? .260/.330/.375 injury prone outfielders in their mid 30s who can't steal anymore don't grow on trees you know. $21 million per year for the next 4 years is a bargain...
/sarcasm off
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including one that was a moon shot that cleared the back wall.
round dingers?
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including one that was a moon shot that cleared the back wall.
round dingers?
Old baseball term dude.
Dingers and round trippers are old baseball terms.
Holliday
Sanchez
Bird
Judge
Didi
Castro
Headley
Gardner
Close, but I don't think Holliday is a #2 type hitter. And Joe likes to alternate L/R batters. My guess:
Ellsbury
Sanchez
Bird
Holliday
Didi
Judge
Headley
Castro
Gardner
Holliday
Sanchez
Bird
Judge
Didi
Castro
Headley
Gardner
Swap Holliday and Bird. Bird's a high OBP guy and you want the vet 'protecting' Sanchez. Though you then get three straight righties in Sanchez-Holliday-Judge, so that might be unlikely.
I also happen to think Holliday is a great option to hit second. The guy has a career .382 OBP and he's a professional hitter.
2) I don't know who I am more annoyed at for being in our regular lineup, Ellsbury or Headley.
3) Montgomery is pitching today for a shot to be considered for one of the 2 rotation spots. He has pitched well this spring and was very good across AA and AAA last year. In fact, his numbers were better at AAA. Given that he wasn't really in the running initially, if he ends up in the rotation, it will be because he earned it, which is great.
4) I don't love the suggested lineup above because I'm not sure I want Bird hitting cleanup. I don't want him or Sanchez thinking like a cleanup hitter (i.e. looking for HRs). They both have good eyes, good discipline, and good power. They don't need to press, which hitting cleanup might cause.
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including one that was a moon shot that cleared the back wall.
round dingers?
Old baseball term dude.
Dingers and round trippers are old baseball terms.
This season is about the hot MLB ready prosepcts like Sanchez and Bird establishing themselves as long term cornerstones, the high minors guys like Frazier showing they are ready to make the jump and the younger ones like Torres and Mateo foricng their way up the ladder.
And unless Pineda is deecnt, and Severino and 1 other pitcher establishes himsef as a major league starter, they aren't going to win anyway. Tanaka can't pitch everyday.
This season is about the hot MLB ready prosepcts like Sanchez and Bird establishing themselves as long term cornerstones, the high minors guys like Frazier showing they are ready to make the jump and the younger ones like Torres and Mateo foricng their way up the ladder.
And unless Pineda is deecnt, and Severino and 1 other pitcher establishes himsef as a major league starter, they aren't going to win anyway. Tanaka can't pitch everyday.
They already fucked things up by bringing in Carter, a total waste of a roster spot who is blocking a young player just as I said when they got him. I don't see Hank as a problem so this is Cashman. They need to go with what they have, give Wade a shot, you have Torreyes, then you have 2 guys that can play anywhere on the field except catcher or pitcher. They still have Gardner and Headley here also, I don't even want Hicks here who will never be a player, he will always be the guy with the speed, arm, and Power who never became anything, I would have McKinney here instead. They need to stop being so paranoid and go all in.
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Yes, he's supposed to miss all of April.
That is a good interview ... pretty candid comments by Cash, not just the usual team-speak.
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That is a good interview ... pretty candid comments by Cash, not just the usual team-speak.
The most interesting thing in that entire interview was his comments about developing starting pitchers. In this thread alone, we see people advocating for adding Montgomery to the rotation right out of spring training- which would go against what Cashman is indicating.
For one, Montgomery has never exceeded 140 IP in any season of his career. Now, since he did throw 139 last year, he COULD be expected to throw in the range of 170-180 IP in 2017- but that would almost certainly require skipping starts and pulling him out of games early.
Cashman clearly indicated a preference to get the SP innings counts to a ML level- and cited to a number of disappointing SP in recent years who were rushed to the bigs before their development was done. I think this indicates that while there is a very real chance that Montgomery may spend a majority of the 2017 season in NY, he probably won't start the season there.
There is a bigger factor that the Yanks have not had to confront in about 2 decades, since they have been such veteran laden teams- arbitration and free agency clocks. If the Yanks held Montgomery back in AAA until sometime in June, the Yanks could not only delay his FA until after the 2023 season, but likely delay his arbitration eligibility until after 2020.
This is important because to be blunt- the Yanks are not likely to be a playoff team in 2017. So, why waste a year of team control and cost control on a year that is focused on development and not contention?
They already fucked things up by bringing in Carter, a total waste of a roster spot who is blocking a young player just as I said when they got him. I don't see Hank as a problem so this is Cashman. They need to go with what they have, give Wade a shot, you have Torreyes, then you have 2 guys that can play anywhere on the field except catcher or pitcher. They still have Gardner and Headley here also, I don't even want Hicks here who will never be a player, he will always be the guy with the speed, arm, and Power who never became anything, I would have McKinney here instead. They need to stop being so paranoid and go all in.
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That is a good interview ... pretty candid comments by Cash, not just the usual team-speak.
The most interesting thing in that entire interview was his comments about developing starting pitchers. In this thread alone, we see people advocating for adding Montgomery to the rotation right out of spring training- which would go against what Cashman is indicating.
For one, Montgomery has never exceeded 140 IP in any season of his career. Now, since he did throw 139 last year, he COULD be expected to throw in the range of 170-180 IP in 2017- but that would almost certainly require skipping starts and pulling him out of games early.
Cashman clearly indicated a preference to get the SP innings counts to a ML level- and cited to a number of disappointing SP in recent years who were rushed to the bigs before their development was done. I think this indicates that while there is a very real chance that Montgomery may spend a majority of the 2017 season in NY, he probably won't start the season there.
There is a bigger factor that the Yanks have not had to confront in about 2 decades, since they have been such veteran laden teams- arbitration and free agency clocks. If the Yanks held Montgomery back in AAA until sometime in June, the Yanks could not only delay his FA until after the 2023 season, but likely delay his arbitration eligibility until after 2020.
This is important because to be blunt- the Yanks are not likely to be a playoff team in 2017. So, why waste a year of team control and cost control on a year that is focused on development and not contention?
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.. Cashman interview - ( New Window )
That is a good interview ... pretty candid comments by Cash, not just the usual team-speak.
The most interesting thing in that entire interview was his comments about developing starting pitchers. In this thread alone, we see people advocating for adding Montgomery to the rotation right out of spring training- which would go against what Cashman is indicating.
For one, Montgomery has never exceeded 140 IP in any season of his career. Now, since he did throw 139 last year, he COULD be expected to throw in the range of 170-180 IP in 2017- but that would almost certainly require skipping starts and pulling him out of games early.
Cashman clearly indicated a preference to get the SP innings counts to a ML level- and cited to a number of disappointing SP in recent years who were rushed to the bigs before their development was done. I think this indicates that while there is a very real chance that Montgomery may spend a majority of the 2017 season in NY, he probably won't start the season there.
There is a bigger factor that the Yanks have not had to confront in about 2 decades, since they have been such veteran laden teams- arbitration and free agency clocks. If the Yanks held Montgomery back in AAA until sometime in June, the Yanks could not only delay his FA until after the 2023 season, but likely delay his arbitration eligibility until after 2020.
This is important because to be blunt- the Yanks are not likely to be a playoff team in 2017. So, why waste a year of team control and cost control on a year that is focused on development and not contention?
Frazier is knocking on the door to that list. Think he could be an All-Star caliber player too
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including one that was a moon shot that cleared the back wall.
round dingers?
Old baseball term dude.
Dingers and round trippers are old baseball terms.
Today you learned a new one
Been watching for over 50 years, never heard of round dingers. As yaj said round trippers and dingers, but hey it might catch on...
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That is a good interview ... pretty candid comments by Cash, not just the usual team-speak.
Yup really good interview, especially his honest comments about mistakes they've made rushing guys to try and win now.
Interesting too about how they brought back the same team in 97 minus Wetteland, but they didn't have the same chemistry, and there was some infighting - I don't really remember that, anyone recall who/what the issues were?
Yeah that could be it. Didn't Boggs also grouse about giving up playing time to Charlie Hayes? And if memory serves something weird was up with Strawberry that season, didn't we let him go, only to bring him back in 98, where he was a key bench guy
Every game I watch as a scout is a treat. There are some games, however, when I see a position player or pitcher that makes me want to scream, “Hey, look at this guy! Do you see what he’s doing?”
That happened to me in a recent spring training game in Port Charlotte, Florida.
The Tampa Bay Rays were hosting the New York Yankees in a meaningless spring training game. They are meaningless perhaps for the veterans just trying to get in shape and work toward opening day. But spring games are mega meaningful for prospects on the cusp of earning a place on the team’s 25-man roster.
Long and lankly lefty Jordan Montgomery took the mound as the starting pitcher for the Yankees. I had never seen him pitch. I had never heard any buzz about him at all.
It didn’t take long for Montgomery to make me sit up in my seat and take notice. Here’s what I saw: He filled up the strike zone with fastballs, sliders and changeups. He used a very solid repertoire of outstanding pitches and kept the Rays off-balance. In his 4.1 innings, Montgomery struck out eight and walked none. His command and control were impeccable.
Montgomery threw his fastball between 91 and 93 miles per hour with terrific late movement on the ball. He would mix in a very solid 85 mph slider and a changeup that would greet the hitter at 84 miles per hour and buckled their knees. His curveball is another offering that he throws at 71 mph.
Montgomery knows how to pitch. He uses all quadrants of the plate and certainly isn’t afraid to work inside. He has excellent mound demeanor. He is very savvy and cool on the mound and doesn’t get rattled or distracted.
Montgomery has the ability to be a dominating pitcher.
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