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The Giants pick Jabril Peppers with the 23rd pick

TheGhostofBlueGuy : 3/23/2017 1:28 pm
Yeah, I know that sounds crazy. But the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. We need someone who can return kicks. We need someone who can be another linebacker/safety. We need another running back that could come in and make explosive plays.


Peppers was consistently the best athlete on the field in many of the games that I saw him play in last year. He can cover running backs out of the backfield. He is an explosive running back with the ball in his hands. And his special teams skills can not denied.

One pick takes care of three roster spots and hopefully he can develop into a star in two out of the three.

Heck, we might even be able to trade back and pick up some spots and still nab him.

Kid is a stud and the ultimate utility knife.

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I think he'll be there and drop.  
JayBinQueens : 3/24/2017 12:12 am : link
Don't think the Giants want a part of him though. No info, just a feeling
he's a Jersey boy that they have watched for years  
gtt350 : 3/24/2017 12:32 am : link
he would be a terrific addition. he can do everything Mc Caffery can do and much more.
RE: he's a Jersey boy that they have watched for years  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 3/24/2017 12:58 am : link
In comment 13404619 gtt350 said:
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he would be a terrific addition. he can do everything Mc Caffery can do and much more.


This. ^^ Strong kid that will withstand the pounding better than McCaffrey. Put him at RB and let him develop at a position he played as a kid. He was misused at Michigan. A 5'11", 215 bowling ball. The perfect compliment to Perkins.

KR and LB/S, to boot. A solid pick that allows us to do more with less picks later. How many of the other potential draftees play multiple positions and play them well?
I sure hope not  
Big Rick in FL : 3/24/2017 1:31 am : link
The guy doesn't have a real position. His best position might be on offense and I'm certainly not drafting a guy with a handful of career carries in the first round. Too small & not a good enough tackler to play LB. Doesn't seem to have the ball skills you want at FS.

We seem to be just fine at the Safety position. Collins is one of the top 3 Safeties in the league. Maybe the best. Darian Thompson looked very good in the 1 full game he played last year. Also impressed throughout mini & training camp. Andrew Adams played very well for a rookie UDFA that was thrown into a starting role. He should be better in his 2nd year especially with less snaps. If I was the Giants I'd add a vet Safety in the Deon Grant mold to teach the young guys.

Want nothing to do with a college safety who averaged 4 tackles a game for his career and forced 1 career turnover. Yes you read that correctly. In 27 games he forced 1 turnover. That was an INT. No fumbles recovered and no forced fumbles.
I think folks  
ryanmkeane : 3/24/2017 9:51 am : link
should be weary of "plugging holes" for first round picks. The goal is to get pro bowl talent in the first round. Peppers fits that mold.
As many have said he's a SS or maybe a RB  
guineaT : 3/24/2017 10:02 am : link
On the one hand we have our SS so why draft him to fill a role he's not suited for. On the other why draft a RB that hasn't toted the rock since high school. He's just not the right fit for us.
He's most likely a SS in the NFL  
JonC : 3/24/2017 10:08 am : link
Guys his size (or Landon's size) do not have the build to play WILL full-time in the NFL where LBs are typically thicker, more powerfully built fire hydrants of 235 lbs+.

I'm surprised to read the lack of instincts and recognition on Peppers, it would suggest a big leap of faith to project him to FS in the NFL.
RE: As a Michigan grad who watched every game the kid played...  
NNJ Tom : 3/24/2017 11:34 am : link
In comment 13404164 Bluenatic said:
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.... I'm afraid we've got greater needs elsewhere.

I love love love Peppers and would be excited to see him in blue, but not if it means sacrificing a quality player at a position of great need, like TE, OT, or RB.


This.
Chances are we're not getting a starter at OT at #23  
JonC : 3/24/2017 11:35 am : link
and TE and RB can be addressed later in the draft.

The draft normally isn't about now, it's about getting the best talent that fits your system and culture.
RE: I think folks  
Big Rick in FL : 3/24/2017 11:49 am : link
In comment 13404779 ryanmkeane said:
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should be weary of "plugging holes" for first round picks. The goal is to get pro bowl talent in the first round. Peppers fits that mold.


He really doesn't though. He's a DB that isn't great in coverage, isn't a very good tackler and doesn't create turnovers. Where is the Pro Bowler in that? As a return man sure he has Pro Bowl potential. Not on defense though.
Rick  
ryanmkeane : 3/24/2017 12:58 pm : link
he was linebacker of the year in the Big 10, 72 tackles and 16 tackles for loss. He isn't a good tackler?
RE: Don't  
santacruzom : 3/24/2017 1:57 pm : link
In comment 13404118 AcidTest said:
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see it. Talented player, but I'm still not sure he wouldn't be better as a RB.


I wonder that too... but what if the Giants actually *did* draft him as an RB?

I don't see it, but that would be mighty intriguing.
His tackling technique is viewed as a knock  
JonC : 3/24/2017 1:59 pm : link
Great college player can have weaknesses.
RE: Plan B?  
santacruzom : 3/24/2017 2:04 pm : link
In comment 13404249 KWALL2 said:
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Baker.

He can do everything. Peppers can do for you.


Now we're talkin'. I wonder what the draft projections for Baker are -- I'd think too many teams are wary of his size to take him in the first.
RE: Rick  
Big Rick in FL : 3/24/2017 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13405194 ryanmkeane said:
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he was linebacker of the year in the Big 10, 72 tackles and 16 tackles for loss. He isn't a good tackler?


No he's not a good tackler. He missed over 15% of his tackle attempts in 2015 & 2016 combined. Including 20.4% of his tackle attempts in 2015.
Ryan  
Big Rick in FL : 3/24/2017 2:14 pm : link
I doubt that gets better in the NFL. That's a very high percentage of tackles to miss in college. He's not a big guy. Certainly wouldn't trust him playing LB or SS. Don't think he's got good enough ball skills to play FS. Great college player. Don't see where he fits on an NFL defense. I'd have no problem taking him in the 3rd or 4th round. Just not any higher.
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