As my good friend HomerJones45 opined recently, the worst time to draft a QB is when you need a QB. There is some truth in that (as there is for any other position). For teams like the Giants, Saints, Steelers, Chargers (to name four), it might serve them better to get a talented young QB in their pipeline before their franchise QBs hang 'em up, as the Packers did in 2005.
On the flip side, for a team that considers itself in contention for a championship, but could still use an infusion of talent at a variety of positions to cement that status, is it worth sacrificing a draft pick - especially a premium pick - to plan for the future? Does the possibility of a seamless transition from one starting QB to the next outweigh the desire to "go all in" now?
For me, while I recognize that Eli won't last forever, I still believe that he's got a couple of good years ahead of him. I'd rather upgrade the talent around him in the upcoming draft instead of looking for his successor this year. Some of that has to do with fact that I'm not really enamored with the QB prospects who should be available to the Giants, but in all honesty, most of it has to do with the desire to have Eli bring home another Lombardi Trophy.
To draft a QB this year, or not to draft a QB this year? That is the question.
He doesn't need that type of hand holding, wasting cheap years of production (assuming his game translates) because the Giants -- or at least some fans proposing it -- can't sentimentally let Eli go.
But we really have to fear being thrown into post-Eli quarterback hell, which is worse than cap hell.
Just start by looking at the Redskins and the Jets. Going back a ways, after Fran Tarkenton left, it took the Giants eight years to draft his replacement, Phil Simms. In between the Giants' quarterbacks were Norm Snead, Craig Morton and Joe Pisarcik.
I would draft a quarterback, but only if there were really strong feelings that he could step in after Eli.
Webb might be the only QB I am intrigued with. But I doubt we'll get a shot to take him He might not last til our 2nd round pick.
Lets say we draft Watson and he sits and learns from Eli in 2017 and then is poised to compete for the starting role. Then you can even trade Eli for assets.
That's a really good question.
I think because we think that Eli wants to play for three more years and nobody thinks that we should or would tell Eli that he was out before he wanted to be out.
Trubisky - won't likely be there, but while he looks physically talented, I can't help but think he has a little bit of Bortles/Tannahill in him i.e. the physical gifts are there but I wonder if the intangibles are.
The opposite to me in Watson, who is tough, a winner etc. but the arm strength is concerning to me.
Kizer never impressed me after watching pretty much all his college games. While his size is ideal and athleticism/arm are good, his accuracy is not.
Mahomes to me is the best of the bunch. The obvious problem is the learning curve after playing in a gimmicky O. Take that away and you have a tremendously gifted QB with a skill-set like Favre.
Webb will likely settle in as a Rd 2 guy, but I'd take him over all but Mahomes.
And he certainly has the pedigree , I know people say he's a head case and all that if he can play like uncle Jim he'd be worth a 5th round pick imo
are the second comings of John Elway, Jim Kelly, Todd Blackledge and Tony Eason coming out this year? This is clearly NOT the year of the QB. And Marino was a victim of some unfounded whispers and gossip.
So my answer is NO.
I know the Giants have no shot at Sam Darnold..but imo he's the next great qb down the line from here. Giants will miss that opp.
AKA, polish a turd.
When it happens, it's luck, not acumen.
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What we don't know - and I'd kill to - is the internal evaluation of his play. Are they perfectly OK going 3 more years of this, or slightly declined each year? Was he injured last year? Something off the field? If they are dissatisfied with his play - and they've dropped some hints - then QB is in play this year. If they're not - maybe next year (in what is considered a strong QB class).
I just don't see how you can evaluate a QB that has to put up with what Flowers is doing at LT. The internal clock is a fragile one.
Even if we don't get a great QB then, so what? We tank a year or two, and then get a shot at a franchise QB. There's a real issue with drafting a QB, and then having him rust on the bench. QB's don't get better on the bench, they have to play.
The wildcard here is Geno. If Geno has matured, and is willing to study hard under Eli and Coach McAdoo, he has the tools to be a very good QB under Coach McAdoo's system. I know this is a long shot, but our drafting strategy may change if Geno starts to fulfill his potential. We'll see.
Even if we don't get a great QB then, so what? We tank a year or two, and then get a shot at a franchise QB. There's a real issue with drafting a QB, and then having him rust on the bench. QB's don't get better on the bench, they have to play.
The wildcard here is Geno. If Geno has matured, and is willing to study hard under Eli and Coach McAdoo, he has the tools to be a very good QB under Coach McAdoo's system. I know this is a long shot, but our drafting strategy may change if Geno starts to fulfill his potential. We'll see.
Geno seems to fit the mold of todays Qbs better than Eli does
Next year the bar goes down a little bit more. I'd be a little more "desperate" for a qb than I am now.
Why not? You think we are so good at drafting that we would be wasting picks? Get a clue.
No better way to mark yourself as someone whose football opinions should be ignored than to tout how often you agree with Gene.