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will make the team now thanks to Lagares injury

In comment 13406333 DanMetroMan said:

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will make the team now thanks to Lagares injury

Yeah, he has to unless Nimmo or Lagares magically make it back in time. No other option.

most likely will miss at least a month.

But I think Legares was more "precautionary" than an "oh shit". But then again, how often does day-to-day turn into a month for the Mets?

Montero might be a lock for the long man spot at this point. 1.96 ERA this spring. Sewald likely goes to Vegas.

What is up with the Familia suspension? WBC is no longer an excuse.

Harvey stays in extended or heads north with the team. Guess his next start will be telling. If he goes north Lugo goes to Vegas I presume.

In comment 13406348 ZGiants98 said:

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Montero might be a lock for the long man spot at this point. 1.96 ERA this spring. Sewald likely goes to Vegas. What is up with the Familia suspension? WBC is no longer an excuse.

Can't announce it IMMEDIATELY after. That would make it look like MLB waited till after the Classic to announce it lol

In comment 13406348 ZGiants98 said:

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Montero might be a lock for the long man spot at this point. 1.96 ERA this spring. Sewald likely goes to Vegas. What is up with the Familia suspension? WBC is no longer an excuse.

We can always drop Gilmartin from the 40 man if we don't want to immediately put Wright on the 60 day DL for roster flexibility purposes. Besides Sewald, is there anybody else that is not already on the 40 man who really must be kept? Even Ty Kelly or Phillip Evans duplicate what T.J. Rivera provides and Rivera is already on the 40 man

In comment 13406352 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 13406348 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Montero might be a lock for the long man spot at this point. 1.96 ERA this spring. Sewald likely goes to Vegas. What is up with the Familia suspension? WBC is no longer an excuse. We can always drop Gilmartin from the 40 man if we don't want to immediately put Wright on the 60 day DL for roster flexibility purposes. Besides Sewald, is there anybody else that is not already on the 40 man who really must be kept? Even Ty Kelly or Phillip Evans duplicate what T.J. Rivera provides and Rivera is already on the 40 man

I dont think Sandy wants to max out every possible 40 man spot. Sure, Goeddel and Gilmartin can be removed but there isn't a lot of room past them. Sure I think Sewald could be added but if it's close I think the tie obviously goes to the man with the 40 man spot and Montero is having a pretty good spring. I do think Ty Kelly is added. TJ Rivera and Flores look like the backup middle infielders until Wright comes back (Reynolds already sent to minor league camp). Lagares and Ty Kelly looked like the backup OF. If Lagares is down long term than Conforto replaces Lagares. Ty Kelly still makes the team.

In comment 13406350 Shecky said:

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In comment 13406348 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Montero might be a lock for the long man spot at this point. 1.96 ERA this spring. Sewald likely goes to Vegas. What is up with the Familia suspension? WBC is no longer an excuse. Can't announce it IMMEDIATELY after. That would make it look like MLB waited till after the Classic to announce it lol

LOL. What a bunch of bullshit.

topped off at 87 this spring, he can be removed as well

Every single one of them. Reyes, Duda, Walker, Cabrera (yes he does have an option), Granderson, and Bruce.

There might be some major turnover next year. Guys like Nimmo, Conforto, Cecchini, Rosario, Smith, and I'd even say TJ Rivera need to be getting plenty of consistent at-bats in preparation of getting their numbers called in the not so distant future.

He's going to be out a while IMO.

Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
Lagares missed 22 games in 2014 with an intercostal strain. He says this oblique injury suffered today doesn�t feel as bad.

IMO. If Familia doesn't get suspended I'd actually think Smoker might once again have a hard time making the team due to options.

In comment 13406369 ZGiants98 said:

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Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig Lagares missed 22 games in 2014 with an intercostal strain. He says this oblique injury suffered today doesn�t feel as bad.

Lol cmon. He said "as bad" aka not as bad as the previous injury.

Michael Mayer @themainemets
Rafael Montero has certainly been a pleasant surprise this spring:

18.1 IP, 14 H, 4 ER (1.96 ERA), 8 BB/21 K

In comment 13406381 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13406369 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig Lagares missed 22 games in 2014 with an intercostal strain. He says this oblique injury suffered today doesn�t feel as bad. Lol cmon. He said "as bad" aka not as bad as the previous injury.

He saying it doesnt feel as bad as a time he injured it that was already lower than the 30 games you predicted. Im not going to speculate on "how bad" or what the heck he talking about lol. We have no idea at this point.

I'd feel bad for the guy. He's waited a long time and pushed through a lot of obstacles to play in the majors. Plus I'd like to see him in action.

In comment 13406386 Torrag said:

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I'd feel bad for the guy. He's waited a long time and pushed through a lot of obstacles to play in the majors. Plus I'd like to see him in action.

The upside of Smoker is so much higher than a guy like Edgin but Edgin is pitching well now and is seemingly a decent backup LOOGY. Doubt the Mets discard him so he's holding the cards right now. The Familia suspension is holding everything up. Ive seen speculation he might not even get suspended at all or that its at least less than 30. We'll see! Smoker still has a shot though.

Smoker makes it.

miss 30 games. Nice try though. Oblique is generally a 3-6 week injury. It's March 25th, if he missed a month he'd miss about 20 games.

Anderson and now Ramirez. Wish the Mets would do this more often

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Indians, Jose Ramirez, pending physical, agree to 4-year $26 million extension. Deal includes club options for 2022 and 2023.

but there arent enough spots. Sewald has almost no shot now IMO.

No Familia Suspension...

Familia
Reed
Salas
Blevins
Robles
Edgin

One of Montero, Smoker, or Lugo for last spot

Famila suspension...

Reed
Salas
Blevins
Robles
Edgin

Two of Smoker, Lugo, Montero, possibly Sewald (since a 40 man spot is open for Familia)

Understood and agree. But the Indians need to strike proactively in an attempt to regulate team finances long term. IF the Mets continue the trend of increasing payroll and behaving like the money machine big market franchise they are it's not as big deal for us. IF.

In comment 13406394 DanMetroMan said:

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miss 30 games. Nice try though. Oblique is generally a 3-6 week injury. It's March 25th, if he missed a month he'd miss about 20 games.

OH JFC. Excuse me 30 DAYS which is still more than how long he was out last time that he is saying he feels better than. lol. You will nitpick anything. How are any of us supposed to know what Lagares meant by that? I just speculated that maybe it wasn't "that bad". Are we going to argue what Lagares's, yours, and my definition of "that bad" is now?

Anthony DiComo ✔ @AnthonyDiComo
"I think I�m going to be ready," Lagares said in reference to the regular season. "There�s not a lot" of discomfort in his oblique. #Mets

Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
TC on Lagares: �I�m concerned. Those things can be one of those injuries that don�t go away for awhile. I�m very concerned."

In comment 13406403 ZGiants98 said:

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In comment 13406394 DanMetroMan said: Quote: miss 30 games. Nice try though. Oblique is generally a 3-6 week injury. It's March 25th, if he missed a month he'd miss about 20 games. OH JFC. Excuse me 30 DAYS which is still more than how long he was out last time that he is saying he feels better than. lol. You will nitpick anything. How are any of us supposed to know what Lagares meant by that? I just speculated that maybe it wasn't "that bad". Are we going to argue what Lagares's, yours, and my definition of "that bad" is now?

Guy YOU were wrong. Just admit it. He said "as bad" not "that bad". He was referencing the previous injury. Just admit you read it wrong and move on. "That bad" and "as bad" are not the same thing and you know it. Has NOTHING to do with knowing what Lagares meant. He was referencing another injury. If I broke my toe and later stubbed it and said "it's not AS bad" as the previous injury it doesn't tell me it's not "that" bad.

Marc Carig ✔@MarcCarig
Conforto gonna be seeing more reps in CF.

In comment 13406398 ZGiants98 said:

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but there arent enough spots. Sewald has almost no shot now IMO. No Familia Suspension... Familia Reed Salas Blevins Robles Edgin One of Montero, Smoker, or Lugo for last spot Famila suspension... Reed Salas Blevins Robles Edgin Two of Smoker, Lugo, Montero, possibly Sewald (since a 40 man spot is open for Familia)

If Lugo makes the rotation that would open up a spot for Smoker

are one of the slowest healing muscle injuries. Remember when people were raving about how quickly Nimmo would return from the hammy? Now he's "not close" per TC.

is not making the rotation. Near 0% chance. Gsellman locked it up.

Robert Gsellman leads all @Mets starters in ERA (1.56), IP (17.1), OPS
(.581), and 2nd in WHIP behind deGrom (1.10). #Mets

In comment 13406408 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13406403 ZGiants98 said: Quote: In comment 13406394 DanMetroMan said: Quote: miss 30 games. Nice try though. Oblique is generally a 3-6 week injury. It's March 25th, if he missed a month he'd miss about 20 games. OH JFC. Excuse me 30 DAYS which is still more than how long he was out last time that he is saying he feels better than. lol. You will nitpick anything. How are any of us supposed to know what Lagares meant by that? I just speculated that maybe it wasn't "that bad". Are we going to argue what Lagares's, yours, and my definition of "that bad" is now? Guy YOU were wrong. Just admit it. He said "as bad" not "that bad". He was referencing the previous injury. Just admit you read it wrong and move on. "That bad" and "as bad" are not the same thing and you know it. Has NOTHING to do with knowing what Lagares meant. He was referencing another injury. If I broke my toe and later stubbed it and said "it's not AS bad" as the previous injury it doesn't tell me it's not "that" bad.

He was referencing a minor injury that he came back quickly from and was saying it wasn't even as bad as that. So I said "that bad". I cant believe we are having this discussion. lol. All good man but I'm bowing way out of this one. I apologize for coming off confusing.

In comment 13406415 DanMetroMan said:

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is not making the rotation. Near 0% chance. Gsellman locked it up.

Harvey and Wheeler in extended spring training until they are healthy and go with Thor-JdG-Gsellman-Matz-Lugo

or has that been ruled out?

don't even see the rationale for Lugo in the pen except now that Salas doesn't look ready they may have to consider it. TC already noted AAA/AA SP depth is very thin right now (thus Adam Wilk being out of the running for the pen). They need to maintain some SP depth until the Harvey/Wheeler stuff is figured out.

In comment 13406422 ZGiants98 said:

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or has that been ruled out?

Collins shut that down. He said "Matt Harvey is in our rotation". Obviously Collins could change his mind but he seemed almost defiant when asked.

In comment 13406421 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 13406415 DanMetroMan said: Quote: is not making the rotation. Near 0% chance. Gsellman locked it up. Harvey and Wheeler in extended spring training until they are healthy and go with Thor-JdG-Gsellman-Matz-Lugo

As noted, Collins said Harvey is in the rotation. No extended for him.

...expect to see Harvey up for the simple reason he's a major draw. They'll rationalize he can work out the 'kinks' in Flushing especially if his velocity is touching 94-95. It's the wrong move but I think it's going to fall out this way.

Matt Ehalt @MattEhalt
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Terry raved on Gsellman. Said WBC not a big factor in race for 5th. Nimmo isnt close. Harvey is in rotation.

In comment 13406426 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13406422 ZGiants98 said: Quote: or has that been ruled out? Collins shut that down. He said "Matt Harvey is in our rotation". Obviously Collins could change his mind but he seemed almost defiant when asked.

Ok I missed that then thanks. Still think the Harvey situation is shaky. If he gets bombed this week and is throwing 92 again they might need to reconsider that.

I think Lugo is still in the running for a pen spot (not that I want him there) but we'll see. If the Mets were dead set on sending him to Vegas for depth they could make the move now as they have done with Reynolds, Rowen, and others.

There you go. Wrong decision.

Sorry that was so big.

In comment 13406449 ZGiants98 said:

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Sorry that was so big.

add montero would be 8 deep

In comment 13406449 ZGiants98 said:

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Sorry that was so big.

Awesome, Z!!

Exciting year.

This spring has quieted almost all concerns we had coming in. So many players had huge springs coming off injuries. Nimmo and Lagares's injuries sting a little but they'll be back soon. Harvey is a little behind but I think he'll round into shape eventually and to be honest, we don't really need him anymore.

The Mets are loaded across the board. We've waited a long time for this.

In comment 13406609 ZGiants98 said:

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This spring has quieted almost all concerns we had coming in. So many players had huge springs coming off injuries. Nimmo and Lagares's injuries sting a little but they'll be back soon. Harvey is a little behind but I think he'll round into shape eventually and to be honest, we don't really need him anymore. The Mets are loaded across the board. We've waited a long time for this.

Let's hope that they stay healthy!!

I'm glad they have depth on the bench and some in AAA. Especially in early spring when cooler weather​causes injury.